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| From | William Vetter <mdhangton@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | rec.arts.sf.written |
| Subject | Re: This morning's crap idea. |
| Date | 2015-08-20 09:55 -0400 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <mr4m4l$m62$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | <mr2cek$4kn$1@dont-email.me> <mr2f0d$f46$1@dont-email.me> <ntCIIr.F3x@kithrup.com> <20150819b@crcomp.net> <ntDvI5.168s@kithrup.com> |
Dorothy J Heydt wrote: > In article <20150819b@crcomp.net>, Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> wrote: >> >> Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote: >>> In article <mr2f0d$f46$1@dont-email.me>, >>> William Vetter <mdhangton@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Dorothy J Heydt wrote: >>>>> In article <mr2cek$4kn$1@dont-email.me>, >>>>> William Vetter <mdhangton@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> Has there ever been a story published where a lousy SF author >>>>>> time-travels back to the Golden Age to throw his trunk stories over the >>>>>> transom and into a 1930's slushpile? >>>>> >>>>> There's something like it, a story by Harry Turtledove, let me >>>>> look up the title. >>>>> >>>>> ... >>>>> >>>>> The title is "Hindsight," and it's collected in _Kaleidoscope_. >>>> >>>> Ah, see, I wake up with an idea that I think is so crappy, I might as >>>> well post it on usenet; and then you're telling me some guy got a >>>> publication out of it. Make my day, why don't cha. >>> >>> Well, you weren't very far off. It's merely that the writer was >>> not lousy, and, face it, in the Golden Age really lousy writing >>> would probably not get bought either. >>> >>> At one point the 1950s writer says, "It's an old theme, go back >>> in time and make a fortune..." and the time-traveler says, "A >>> fortune? At three cents a word?" >>> >>> The nice thing about "Hindsight" is that Turtledove remembers >>> 1950s California in detail, as I do, and put a lot of little >>> details in and got them right. >> >> Thank you sharing Dorothy. >> >> "Hindsight" also appears under the pseudonym Eric G Iverson in Analog >> Science Fiction/Science Fact, Mid-December 1984. "Hindsight" reminds me >> of "Bob Dylan, Troy Jonson, and the Speed Queen" by F Paul Wilson. >> >> The travelers in both stories take rock music records and turntables >> back with them in time. And both travelers plagiarize future works. >> "Hindsight" has literature stolen while "Bob Dylan" has music stolen. >> >> The motives of the travelers also differ. "Hindsight" wants to save the >> world, while "Bob Dylan" wants to be a rock star. Here's some dialog >> from "Hindsight" for the lulz. >> A couple of people were already waiting by the post >> office boxes, and several more came in after Pete and >> McGregor. "They can't *all* be writers," Pete whispered >> behind his hand. >> The editor rolled his eyes. "You'd be amazed." >> > > Heh. I can believe it. > > Not *selling* writers, but *attempting* writers. I think that editors like to buy this sort of thing, that talks about their lives, but I'm not sure readers want to see it particularly. A lot of stuff like this appears in small press magazines...the editor suffers under a curse that forces her to read all the slush, things like that.
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