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Amateur Peering

Started byIntraNIC <intranicnetwork@gmail.com>
First post2026-09-17 08:54 -0700
Last post2026-09-20 11:17 +1000
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  Amateur Peering IntraNIC <intranicnetwork@gmail.com> - 2026-09-17 08:54 -0700
    Re: Amateur Peering "Roberto CORRADO" <i@secure.corradoroberto.it> - 2026-09-17 18:32 +0200
      Re: Amateur Peering IntraNIC <intranicnetwork@gmail.com> - 2026-09-17 09:41 -0700
        Re: Amateur Peering "Roberto CORRADO" <i@secure.corradoroberto.it> - 2026-09-18 20:52 +0200
    Re: Amateur Peering Ivo Gandolfo <usenet@bofh.team> - 2026-09-17 21:02 +0200
      Re: Amateur Peering Madison <madison.brooks@skeetchestn.ca> - 2026-09-17 13:47 -0700
        Re: Amateur Peering Ivo Gandolfo <usenet@bofh.team> - 2026-09-17 23:29 +0200
          Re: Amateur Peering Madison <madison.brooks@skeetchestn.ca> - 2026-09-17 14:48 -0700
            Re: Amateur Peering Nigel Reed <sysop@endofthelinebbs.com> - 2026-09-18 12:58 -0500
              Re: Amateur Peering IntraNIC <intranicnetwork@gmail.com> - 2026-09-19 18:09 -0700
                Re: Amateur Peering noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2026-09-20 11:28 +1000
    Re: Amateur Peering Nigel Reed <sysop@endofthelinebbs.com> - 2026-09-18 12:44 -0500
      Re: Amateur Peering "IntraNIC intranicnetwork"@gmail.com - 2026-09-18 10:47 -0700
      OT  Re: Amateur Peering noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2026-09-19 11:18 +1000
        Re: OT Re: Amateur Peering Fae Empress <admin@mail.su.gy> - 2026-09-19 15:51 -0700
          Re: OT Re: Amateur Peering noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2026-09-20 11:17 +1000

#3513 — Amateur Peering

FromIntraNIC <intranicnetwork@gmail.com>
Date2026-09-17 08:54 -0700
SubjectAmateur Peering
Message-ID<118h2k4$epu4$1@dont-email.me>
I'm new to running a newsgroup (INN) server, and am looking for peering, 
preferably with other amateurs!

Info: My feed is an FTN to Usenet bridge

If interested, email me, and we can exchange info.

intranicnetwork@gmail.com

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#3514

From"Roberto CORRADO" <i@secure.corradoroberto.it>
Date2026-09-17 18:32 +0200
Message-ID<118h4lv$rdi$1localnet@news.corradoroberto.it>
In reply to#3513
"IntraNIC" wrote:

> preferably with other amateurs!
I have send you a email but now not have a fidonet group.

-- 
Roberto CORRADO
news.corradoroberto.it

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#3515

FromIntraNIC <intranicnetwork@gmail.com>
Date2026-09-17 09:41 -0700
Message-ID<118h5cv$fvj2$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#3514
On 9/17/2026 9:32 AM, Roberto CORRADO wrote:
> "IntraNIC" wrote:
> 
>> preferably with other amateurs!
> I have send you a email but now not have a fidonet group.
> 
Thank you for your email. I'll get things setup today. I sent the info 
you need in my email reply.

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#3523

From"Roberto CORRADO" <i@secure.corradoroberto.it>
Date2026-09-18 20:52 +0200
Message-ID<118k18g$mi0$1localnet@news.corradoroberto.it>
In reply to#3515
"IntraNIC" wrote:

> Thank you for your email. I'll get things setup today. I sent the info 
> you need in my email reply.

I have recived you email with information of remove my peer, i have applicate your choice, peer removed now.

Thank you

-- 
Roberto.

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#3516

FromIvo Gandolfo <usenet@bofh.team>
Date2026-09-17 21:02 +0200
Message-ID<118hdgm$2a2r4$1@paganini.bofh.team>
In reply to#3513
Il 17/09/2026 17:54, IntraNIC ha scritto:
> I'm new to running a newsgroup (INN) server, and am looking for peering, 
> preferably with other amateurs!
> 
> Info: My feed is an FTN to Usenet bridge
> 
> If interested, email me, and we can exchange info.
> 
> intranicnetwork@gmail.com

Hi IntraNIC,

you can find details here https://www.bofh.team/info.txt

Just send me you side when ready, and witch group's you want to peer and 
I setup the feed accordingly.


Sincerely

-- 
Ivo Gandolfo

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#3517

FromMadison <madison.brooks@skeetchestn.ca>
Date2026-09-17 13:47 -0700
Message-ID<118hjpl$5lmf$1@s306370.wholesaleinternet.net>
In reply to#3516
On 9/17/2026 12:02 PM, Ivo Gandolfo wrote:
> Il 17/09/2026 17:54, IntraNIC ha scritto:
>> I'm new to running a newsgroup (INN) server, and am looking for 
>> peering, preferably with other amateurs!
>>
>> Info: My feed is an FTN to Usenet bridge
>>
>> If interested, email me, and we can exchange info.
>>
>> intranicnetwork@gmail.com
> 
> Hi IntraNIC,
> 
> you can find details here https://www.bofh.team/info.txt
> 
> Just send me you side when ready, and witch group's you want to peer and 
> I setup the feed accordingly.
> 
> 
> Sincerely
> 
Do you carry fido7.*? Can you carry our fido.*?

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#3518

FromIvo Gandolfo <usenet@bofh.team>
Date2026-09-17 23:29 +0200
Message-ID<118hm4a$2ahup$1@paganini.bofh.team>
In reply to#3517
Il 17/09/2026 22:47, Madison ha scritto:
> Do you carry fido7.*? Can you carry our fido.*?

ivo@paganini:~$ cat /var/lib/news/active | grep "fido." | wc -l
3511
ivo@paganini:~$ cat /var/lib/news/active | grep "fido7." | wc -l
3259
ivo@paganini:~$

I think so


Sincerely

-- 
Ivo Gandolfo

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#3519

FromMadison <madison.brooks@skeetchestn.ca>
Date2026-09-17 14:48 -0700
Message-ID<118hncj$5mir$1@s306370.wholesaleinternet.net>
In reply to#3518
On 9/17/2026 2:29 PM, Ivo Gandolfo wrote:
> Il 17/09/2026 22:47, Madison ha scritto:
>> Do you carry fido7.*? Can you carry our fido.*?
> 
> ivo@paganini:~$ cat /var/lib/news/active | grep "fido." | wc -l
> 3511
> ivo@paganini:~$ cat /var/lib/news/active | grep "fido7." | wc -l
> 3259
> ivo@paganini:~$
> 
> I think so
> 
Perfect, I think I've got you setup here. Our info and active files are 
here: http://intranic.su.gy/usenet.php

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#3521

FromNigel Reed <sysop@endofthelinebbs.com>
Date2026-09-18 12:58 -0500
Message-ID<20260918125811.6302e750@wibble.sysadmininc.com>
In reply to#3519
On Thu, 17 Sep 2026 14:48:41 -0700
Madison <madison.brooks@skeetchestn.ca> wrote:

> http://intranic.su.gy/usenet.php

I would advise people not to be part of this

fido.linux 0000000000 0000000001 y
GATEway:      *NO* Usenet backbone gating

I'm also pretty sure enet.sysops shouldn't be exposed to non-sysops
either. 

Same for SYSOPS (there is no SYSOPS on fidonet that I can find). 

-- 
End Of The Line BBS - Plano, TX
telnet endofthelinebbs.com 23

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#3526

FromIntraNIC <intranicnetwork@gmail.com>
Date2026-09-19 18:09 -0700
Message-ID<118nbnj$2o0r1$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#3521
On 2026-09-18 10:58 a.m., Nigel Reed wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Sep 2026 14:48:41 -0700
> Madison <madison.brooks@skeetchestn.ca> wrote:
> 
>> http://intranic.su.gy/usenet.php
> 
> I would advise people not to be part of this
> 
> fido.linux 0000000000 0000000001 y
> GATEway:      *NO* Usenet backbone gating
> 
> I'm also pretty sure enet.sysops shouldn't be exposed to non-sysops
> either.
> 
> Same for SYSOPS (there is no SYSOPS on fidonet that I can find).
> 
Ok, I'll switch everything over to realms.* and rename the FTN to 
RealmsNet (original from my 1994 BBS).

I assume there is no one using realms.* hierarchy?

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#3528

Fromnoel <deletethis@invalid.lan>
Date2026-09-20 11:28 +1000
Message-ID<6aaf36c1$1@news.ausics.net>
In reply to#3526
On Sat, 19 Sep 2026 18:09:07 -0700, IntraNIC wrote:


> Ok, I'll switch everything over to realms.* and rename the FTN to
> RealmsNet (original from my 1994 BBS).
> 
> I assume there is no one using realms.* hierarchy?

/usr/local/dnews# grep -c realms control.conf 
0

grep -cE '^realms' active.dat
0

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#3520

FromNigel Reed <sysop@endofthelinebbs.com>
Date2026-09-18 12:44 -0500
Message-ID<20260918124427.0a75eb85@wibble.sysadmininc.com>
In reply to#3513
On Thu, 17 Sep 2026 08:54:20 -0700
IntraNIC <intranicnetwork@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm new to running a newsgroup (INN) server, and am looking for
> peering, preferably with other amateurs!
> 
> Info: My feed is an FTN to Usenet bridge
> 
> If interested, email me, and we can exchange info.
> 
> intranicnetwork@gmail.com
> 

Are you only gating fidonet groups that specifically allow gating? Many
expressly forbid it, or only allow with mod approval. Some are already
gated.


-- 
End Of The Line BBS - Plano, TX
telnet endofthelinebbs.com 23

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#3522

From"IntraNIC intranicnetwork"@gmail.com
Date2026-09-18 10:47 -0700
Message-ID<118jtks$c3h$1@s306370.wholesaleinternet.net>
In reply to#3520
> 
> Are you only gating fidonet groups that specifically allow gating? Many
> expressly forbid it, or only allow with mod approval. Some are already
> gated.
> 
> 
We don't gate Fidonet. Fidogate operates on it's own domain and zones. 
If a group wants to gate, they would need to share a message base. We 
don't actually do that ourselves.

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#3524 — OT Re: Amateur Peering

Fromnoel <deletethis@invalid.lan>
Date2026-09-19 11:18 +1000
SubjectOT Re: Amateur Peering
Message-ID<6aade2c8$1@news.ausics.net>
In reply to#3520
On Fri, 18 Sep 2026 12:44:27 -0500, Nigel Reed wrote:

> Are you only gating fidonet groups that specifically allow gating? Many
> expressly forbid it, or only allow with mod approval. Some are already
> gated.

Fido's rules are and always have been archaic, I ran a BBS back in late  
80s/90's (Ezycom under DOS/Desqview/Qemm) and i think it was 91 or 92 
added this new thing called "the internet" with tcp trumpet sock or 
something similarly named to allow logins - back then it more of a play 
thing since Peter said Ezycom update facilitates it, boy those were the 
days we had compuserve on a super blazingly fast best-thing-to-ever-
happen 2400bps modem line :) 

the zone "kommandant" regulary objected to us allowing logins - on the 
internet line, whilst the other dialup line was always in its hourly 
reserved netmail hour (4-5AM here), I argued with the kommandant for 
several weeks on why I should lock everyone out when the dedicated dialup 
was complying, I fulfilled my netmail obligations keeping the dialup 
free, he knows that because our "discussion" was all via netmail :)  he 
cut me off 3 times over period of a year for that until he moved to 
terminate my node altogether.

I then got a direct (IIRC called a point node) arrangement from John 
(everybody knows John in Zone 1, also went on to run a fair size ISP in 
the US from what I heard in later years) I had all my feeds and netmail 
from him via the internet (until I closed the BBS in late 90's - it ran 
for about 12 years all up).

Over the following 2 or 3 years, my story was repeated several times over 
by other BBS's here, but they just ended Fidonet rather than seeking 
other access.

Some people insist in living in the stone ages, and Fido doesnt seem to 
have realised its own policies are whats seen its demise, like this, 
forbidden to gate areas, thats right forbid them, heaven forbid people 
discover Fidonet by finding their discussions on usenet, not advertise 
and prevent others discovering them - not that I can imagine there being 
many in 2026 anyway but I confess to not giving a damn enough to go 
looking :)

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#3525 — Re: OT Re: Amateur Peering

FromFae Empress <admin@mail.su.gy>
Date2026-09-19 15:51 -0700
SubjectRe: OT Re: Amateur Peering
Message-ID<118n3lj$2lp2q$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#3524
On 2026-09-18 6:18 p.m., noel wrote:

> Some people insist in living in the stone ages, and Fido doesnt seem to
> have realised its own policies are whats seen its demise, like this,
> forbidden to gate areas, thats right forbid them, heaven forbid people
> discover Fidonet by finding their discussions on usenet, not advertise
> and prevent others discovering them - not that I can imagine there being
> many in 2026 anyway but I confess to not giving a damn enough to go
> looking :)

A couple years back I was working on a Fediverse (Mastodon, Friendica, 
etc.) bridge into a test FTN and it worked great. Groups were based on 
#hashtags. Unfortunately, there were WAY too many posts coming
into the groups and I had to shut it down.

Fidonet can remain dead for all I care, but I don't see a reason that
other networks can't grow and evolve.

I think connecting to something more forum based, ie. Lemmy, might be
a better option rather than a hashtag based system.

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#3527 — Re: OT Re: Amateur Peering

Fromnoel <deletethis@invalid.lan>
Date2026-09-20 11:17 +1000
SubjectRe: OT Re: Amateur Peering
Message-ID<6aaf3442$1@news.ausics.net>
In reply to#3525
On Sat, 19 Sep 2026 15:51:25 -0700, Fae Empress wrote:

> On 2026-09-18 6:18 p.m., noel wrote:
> 
>> Some people insist in living in the stone ages, and Fido doesnt seem to
>> have realised its own policies are whats seen its demise, like this,
>> forbidden to gate areas, thats right forbid them, heaven forbid people
>> discover Fidonet by finding their discussions on usenet, not advertise
>> and prevent others discovering them - not that I can imagine there
>> being many in 2026 anyway but I confess to not giving a damn enough to
>> go looking :)
> 
> A couple years back I was working on a Fediverse (Mastodon, Friendica,
> etc.) bridge into a test FTN and it worked great. Groups were based on
> #hashtags. Unfortunately, there were WAY too many posts coming into the
> groups and I had to shut it down.
> 
> Fidonet can remain dead for all I care, but I don't see a reason that
> other networks can't grow and evolve.
> 
> I think connecting to something more forum based, ie. Lemmy, might be a
> better option rather than a hashtag based system.

I always more or less considered usenet as Fidonets replacement, because 
before usenet, thats what we used, problem with forums is, in what I've 
seen in the past, html code in posts - html is blocked here, if I want to 
waste storage  and have 75K articles instead of 3K, I'll re-enable 
binaries before allowing html :)

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