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| Started by | IntraNIC <intranicnetwork@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2026-09-17 08:54 -0700 |
| Last post | 2026-09-20 11:17 +1000 |
| Articles | 16 — 8 participants |
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Amateur Peering IntraNIC <intranicnetwork@gmail.com> - 2026-09-17 08:54 -0700
Re: Amateur Peering "Roberto CORRADO" <i@secure.corradoroberto.it> - 2026-09-17 18:32 +0200
Re: Amateur Peering IntraNIC <intranicnetwork@gmail.com> - 2026-09-17 09:41 -0700
Re: Amateur Peering "Roberto CORRADO" <i@secure.corradoroberto.it> - 2026-09-18 20:52 +0200
Re: Amateur Peering Ivo Gandolfo <usenet@bofh.team> - 2026-09-17 21:02 +0200
Re: Amateur Peering Madison <madison.brooks@skeetchestn.ca> - 2026-09-17 13:47 -0700
Re: Amateur Peering Ivo Gandolfo <usenet@bofh.team> - 2026-09-17 23:29 +0200
Re: Amateur Peering Madison <madison.brooks@skeetchestn.ca> - 2026-09-17 14:48 -0700
Re: Amateur Peering Nigel Reed <sysop@endofthelinebbs.com> - 2026-09-18 12:58 -0500
Re: Amateur Peering IntraNIC <intranicnetwork@gmail.com> - 2026-09-19 18:09 -0700
Re: Amateur Peering noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2026-09-20 11:28 +1000
Re: Amateur Peering Nigel Reed <sysop@endofthelinebbs.com> - 2026-09-18 12:44 -0500
Re: Amateur Peering "IntraNIC intranicnetwork"@gmail.com - 2026-09-18 10:47 -0700
OT Re: Amateur Peering noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2026-09-19 11:18 +1000
Re: OT Re: Amateur Peering Fae Empress <admin@mail.su.gy> - 2026-09-19 15:51 -0700
Re: OT Re: Amateur Peering noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2026-09-20 11:17 +1000
| From | IntraNIC <intranicnetwork@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-09-17 08:54 -0700 |
| Subject | Amateur Peering |
| Message-ID | <118h2k4$epu4$1@dont-email.me> |
I'm new to running a newsgroup (INN) server, and am looking for peering, preferably with other amateurs! Info: My feed is an FTN to Usenet bridge If interested, email me, and we can exchange info. intranicnetwork@gmail.com
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| From | "Roberto CORRADO" <i@secure.corradoroberto.it> |
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| Date | 2026-09-17 18:32 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <118h4lv$rdi$1localnet@news.corradoroberto.it> |
| In reply to | #3513 |
"IntraNIC" wrote: > preferably with other amateurs! I have send you a email but now not have a fidonet group. -- Roberto CORRADO news.corradoroberto.it
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| From | IntraNIC <intranicnetwork@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-09-17 09:41 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <118h5cv$fvj2$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #3514 |
On 9/17/2026 9:32 AM, Roberto CORRADO wrote: > "IntraNIC" wrote: > >> preferably with other amateurs! > I have send you a email but now not have a fidonet group. > Thank you for your email. I'll get things setup today. I sent the info you need in my email reply.
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| From | "Roberto CORRADO" <i@secure.corradoroberto.it> |
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| Date | 2026-09-18 20:52 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <118k18g$mi0$1localnet@news.corradoroberto.it> |
| In reply to | #3515 |
"IntraNIC" wrote: > Thank you for your email. I'll get things setup today. I sent the info > you need in my email reply. I have recived you email with information of remove my peer, i have applicate your choice, peer removed now. Thank you -- Roberto.
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| From | Ivo Gandolfo <usenet@bofh.team> |
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| Date | 2026-09-17 21:02 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <118hdgm$2a2r4$1@paganini.bofh.team> |
| In reply to | #3513 |
Il 17/09/2026 17:54, IntraNIC ha scritto: > I'm new to running a newsgroup (INN) server, and am looking for peering, > preferably with other amateurs! > > Info: My feed is an FTN to Usenet bridge > > If interested, email me, and we can exchange info. > > intranicnetwork@gmail.com Hi IntraNIC, you can find details here https://www.bofh.team/info.txt Just send me you side when ready, and witch group's you want to peer and I setup the feed accordingly. Sincerely -- Ivo Gandolfo
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| From | Madison <madison.brooks@skeetchestn.ca> |
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| Date | 2026-09-17 13:47 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <118hjpl$5lmf$1@s306370.wholesaleinternet.net> |
| In reply to | #3516 |
On 9/17/2026 12:02 PM, Ivo Gandolfo wrote: > Il 17/09/2026 17:54, IntraNIC ha scritto: >> I'm new to running a newsgroup (INN) server, and am looking for >> peering, preferably with other amateurs! >> >> Info: My feed is an FTN to Usenet bridge >> >> If interested, email me, and we can exchange info. >> >> intranicnetwork@gmail.com > > Hi IntraNIC, > > you can find details here https://www.bofh.team/info.txt > > Just send me you side when ready, and witch group's you want to peer and > I setup the feed accordingly. > > > Sincerely > Do you carry fido7.*? Can you carry our fido.*?
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| From | Ivo Gandolfo <usenet@bofh.team> |
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| Date | 2026-09-17 23:29 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <118hm4a$2ahup$1@paganini.bofh.team> |
| In reply to | #3517 |
Il 17/09/2026 22:47, Madison ha scritto: > Do you carry fido7.*? Can you carry our fido.*? ivo@paganini:~$ cat /var/lib/news/active | grep "fido." | wc -l 3511 ivo@paganini:~$ cat /var/lib/news/active | grep "fido7." | wc -l 3259 ivo@paganini:~$ I think so Sincerely -- Ivo Gandolfo
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| From | Madison <madison.brooks@skeetchestn.ca> |
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| Date | 2026-09-17 14:48 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <118hncj$5mir$1@s306370.wholesaleinternet.net> |
| In reply to | #3518 |
On 9/17/2026 2:29 PM, Ivo Gandolfo wrote: > Il 17/09/2026 22:47, Madison ha scritto: >> Do you carry fido7.*? Can you carry our fido.*? > > ivo@paganini:~$ cat /var/lib/news/active | grep "fido." | wc -l > 3511 > ivo@paganini:~$ cat /var/lib/news/active | grep "fido7." | wc -l > 3259 > ivo@paganini:~$ > > I think so > Perfect, I think I've got you setup here. Our info and active files are here: http://intranic.su.gy/usenet.php
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| From | Nigel Reed <sysop@endofthelinebbs.com> |
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| Date | 2026-09-18 12:58 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <20260918125811.6302e750@wibble.sysadmininc.com> |
| In reply to | #3519 |
On Thu, 17 Sep 2026 14:48:41 -0700 Madison <madison.brooks@skeetchestn.ca> wrote: > http://intranic.su.gy/usenet.php I would advise people not to be part of this fido.linux 0000000000 0000000001 y GATEway: *NO* Usenet backbone gating I'm also pretty sure enet.sysops shouldn't be exposed to non-sysops either. Same for SYSOPS (there is no SYSOPS on fidonet that I can find). -- End Of The Line BBS - Plano, TX telnet endofthelinebbs.com 23
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| From | IntraNIC <intranicnetwork@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-09-19 18:09 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <118nbnj$2o0r1$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #3521 |
On 2026-09-18 10:58 a.m., Nigel Reed wrote: > On Thu, 17 Sep 2026 14:48:41 -0700 > Madison <madison.brooks@skeetchestn.ca> wrote: > >> http://intranic.su.gy/usenet.php > > I would advise people not to be part of this > > fido.linux 0000000000 0000000001 y > GATEway: *NO* Usenet backbone gating > > I'm also pretty sure enet.sysops shouldn't be exposed to non-sysops > either. > > Same for SYSOPS (there is no SYSOPS on fidonet that I can find). > Ok, I'll switch everything over to realms.* and rename the FTN to RealmsNet (original from my 1994 BBS). I assume there is no one using realms.* hierarchy?
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| From | noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> |
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| Date | 2026-09-20 11:28 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <6aaf36c1$1@news.ausics.net> |
| In reply to | #3526 |
On Sat, 19 Sep 2026 18:09:07 -0700, IntraNIC wrote: > Ok, I'll switch everything over to realms.* and rename the FTN to > RealmsNet (original from my 1994 BBS). > > I assume there is no one using realms.* hierarchy? /usr/local/dnews# grep -c realms control.conf 0 grep -cE '^realms' active.dat 0
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| From | Nigel Reed <sysop@endofthelinebbs.com> |
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| Date | 2026-09-18 12:44 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <20260918124427.0a75eb85@wibble.sysadmininc.com> |
| In reply to | #3513 |
On Thu, 17 Sep 2026 08:54:20 -0700 IntraNIC <intranicnetwork@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm new to running a newsgroup (INN) server, and am looking for > peering, preferably with other amateurs! > > Info: My feed is an FTN to Usenet bridge > > If interested, email me, and we can exchange info. > > intranicnetwork@gmail.com > Are you only gating fidonet groups that specifically allow gating? Many expressly forbid it, or only allow with mod approval. Some are already gated. -- End Of The Line BBS - Plano, TX telnet endofthelinebbs.com 23
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| From | "IntraNIC intranicnetwork"@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2026-09-18 10:47 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <118jtks$c3h$1@s306370.wholesaleinternet.net> |
| In reply to | #3520 |
> > Are you only gating fidonet groups that specifically allow gating? Many > expressly forbid it, or only allow with mod approval. Some are already > gated. > > We don't gate Fidonet. Fidogate operates on it's own domain and zones. If a group wants to gate, they would need to share a message base. We don't actually do that ourselves.
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| From | noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> |
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| Date | 2026-09-19 11:18 +1000 |
| Subject | OT Re: Amateur Peering |
| Message-ID | <6aade2c8$1@news.ausics.net> |
| In reply to | #3520 |
On Fri, 18 Sep 2026 12:44:27 -0500, Nigel Reed wrote: > Are you only gating fidonet groups that specifically allow gating? Many > expressly forbid it, or only allow with mod approval. Some are already > gated. Fido's rules are and always have been archaic, I ran a BBS back in late 80s/90's (Ezycom under DOS/Desqview/Qemm) and i think it was 91 or 92 added this new thing called "the internet" with tcp trumpet sock or something similarly named to allow logins - back then it more of a play thing since Peter said Ezycom update facilitates it, boy those were the days we had compuserve on a super blazingly fast best-thing-to-ever- happen 2400bps modem line :) the zone "kommandant" regulary objected to us allowing logins - on the internet line, whilst the other dialup line was always in its hourly reserved netmail hour (4-5AM here), I argued with the kommandant for several weeks on why I should lock everyone out when the dedicated dialup was complying, I fulfilled my netmail obligations keeping the dialup free, he knows that because our "discussion" was all via netmail :) he cut me off 3 times over period of a year for that until he moved to terminate my node altogether. I then got a direct (IIRC called a point node) arrangement from John (everybody knows John in Zone 1, also went on to run a fair size ISP in the US from what I heard in later years) I had all my feeds and netmail from him via the internet (until I closed the BBS in late 90's - it ran for about 12 years all up). Over the following 2 or 3 years, my story was repeated several times over by other BBS's here, but they just ended Fidonet rather than seeking other access. Some people insist in living in the stone ages, and Fido doesnt seem to have realised its own policies are whats seen its demise, like this, forbidden to gate areas, thats right forbid them, heaven forbid people discover Fidonet by finding their discussions on usenet, not advertise and prevent others discovering them - not that I can imagine there being many in 2026 anyway but I confess to not giving a damn enough to go looking :)
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| From | Fae Empress <admin@mail.su.gy> |
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| Date | 2026-09-19 15:51 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: OT Re: Amateur Peering |
| Message-ID | <118n3lj$2lp2q$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #3524 |
On 2026-09-18 6:18 p.m., noel wrote: > Some people insist in living in the stone ages, and Fido doesnt seem to > have realised its own policies are whats seen its demise, like this, > forbidden to gate areas, thats right forbid them, heaven forbid people > discover Fidonet by finding their discussions on usenet, not advertise > and prevent others discovering them - not that I can imagine there being > many in 2026 anyway but I confess to not giving a damn enough to go > looking :) A couple years back I was working on a Fediverse (Mastodon, Friendica, etc.) bridge into a test FTN and it worked great. Groups were based on #hashtags. Unfortunately, there were WAY too many posts coming into the groups and I had to shut it down. Fidonet can remain dead for all I care, but I don't see a reason that other networks can't grow and evolve. I think connecting to something more forum based, ie. Lemmy, might be a better option rather than a hashtag based system.
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| From | noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> |
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| Date | 2026-09-20 11:17 +1000 |
| Subject | Re: OT Re: Amateur Peering |
| Message-ID | <6aaf3442$1@news.ausics.net> |
| In reply to | #3525 |
On Sat, 19 Sep 2026 15:51:25 -0700, Fae Empress wrote: > On 2026-09-18 6:18 p.m., noel wrote: > >> Some people insist in living in the stone ages, and Fido doesnt seem to >> have realised its own policies are whats seen its demise, like this, >> forbidden to gate areas, thats right forbid them, heaven forbid people >> discover Fidonet by finding their discussions on usenet, not advertise >> and prevent others discovering them - not that I can imagine there >> being many in 2026 anyway but I confess to not giving a damn enough to >> go looking :) > > A couple years back I was working on a Fediverse (Mastodon, Friendica, > etc.) bridge into a test FTN and it worked great. Groups were based on > #hashtags. Unfortunately, there were WAY too many posts coming into the > groups and I had to shut it down. > > Fidonet can remain dead for all I care, but I don't see a reason that > other networks can't grow and evolve. > > I think connecting to something more forum based, ie. Lemmy, might be a > better option rather than a hashtag based system. I always more or less considered usenet as Fidonets replacement, because before usenet, thats what we used, problem with forums is, in what I've seen in the past, html code in posts - html is blocked here, if I want to waste storage and have 75K articles instead of 3K, I'll re-enable binaries before allowing html :)
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