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| Started by | Marion <marion@facts.com> |
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| First post | 2025-04-06 05:30 +0000 |
| Last post | 2025-04-11 10:24 -0700 |
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How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-06 05:30 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-04-06 05:50 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-06 07:16 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-04-07 04:30 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-07 10:54 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-04-08 19:30 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-11 21:56 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-12 07:22 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-12 21:31 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-12 21:55 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-12 22:20 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-13 01:59 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-12 23:13 -0700
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-16 19:24 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-12 15:21 -0700
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-13 00:25 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-13 02:42 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-13 00:46 -0700
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-16 19:21 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-04-13 18:50 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-15 18:11 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-04-16 14:00 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2025-04-17 07:41 +0200
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-04-06 19:54 +1200
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-06 08:50 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-04-07 04:30 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-04-07 19:25 +1200
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-07 10:47 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 10:45 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-06 11:20 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 11:40 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-06 11:59 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 13:01 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 13:18 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 14:48 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-13 07:07 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-13 12:46 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-13 09:27 -0700
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-14 10:27 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-14 12:08 -0700
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-14 19:38 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-14 14:58 -0700
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Rick <rick@nospam.com> - 2025-04-06 08:43 -0400
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 13:02 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Rick <rick@nospam.com> - 2025-04-06 10:19 -0400
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-06 20:09 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers bp@www.zefox.net - 2025-04-06 15:50 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Zaidy036 <Zaidy036@air.isp.spam> - 2025-04-06 11:54 -0400
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-06 16:30 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-07 11:00 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-07 11:10 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-07 13:01 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers TheCivvie <thecivvie@gmail-antispam.com> - 2025-04-09 18:40 +0100
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-10 19:34 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-09 10:11 -0700
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-09 18:39 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Ivano Rossi <Ivano.Rossi@nospam.tin.it> - 2025-04-10 22:28 +0200
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-10 13:42 -0700
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-10 23:44 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-14 14:05 -0400
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-14 18:20 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-14 12:13 -0700
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-15 16:14 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-15 18:25 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-16 01:43 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-16 05:55 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-16 18:47 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-14 12:13 -0700
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-15 16:13 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-15 18:32 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-15 11:56 -0700
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-15 21:50 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-16 00:55 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-16 01:21 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-16 01:29 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-16 01:24 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-16 06:07 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-16 18:43 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-16 18:36 +0000
Just use iOS files and SMB (was Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-09 20:38 -0700
Re: Just use iOS files and SMB (was Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-10 11:06 +0000
Re: Just use iOS files and SMB (was Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-10 09:59 -0700
Re: Just use iOS files and SMB (was Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-10 17:17 +0000
Re: Just use iOS files and SMB (was Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-10 20:35 +0000
Re: Just use iOS files and SMB (was Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-10 13:43 -0700
Re: Just use iOS files and SMB (was Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-10 20:57 +0000
Re: Just use iOS files and SMB (was Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-10 15:35 -0700
Re: Just use iOS files and SMB (was Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-10 23:31 +0000
Re: Just use iOS files and SMB (was Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-10 17:28 -0700
Re: Just use iOS files and SMB (was Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-11 00:40 +0000
Re: Just use iOS files and SMB (was Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-10 17:41 -0700
Re: Just use iOS files and SMB (was Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-11 08:04 +0000
Re: Just use iOS files and SMB (was Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-11 10:24 -0700
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| From | Tyrone <none@none.none> |
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| Date | 2025-04-14 18:20 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <b4icnSOct5p1zGD6nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@supernews.com> |
| In reply to | #194446 |
On Apr 14, 2025 at 2:05:31 PM EDT, "Tom Elam" <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> wrote: > On 4/9/2025 1:11 PM, Alan wrote: >> On 2025-04-05 22:30, Marion wrote: >>> Apple products don't work in the real world so something as trivial as >>> copying a photo from Windows to iOS is almost impossible without the net. >> Connect to your Windows machine using the Files app on iOS. >> >> Done. > > That would be OK if it worked. The transfer is one-way, iOS to Windows, > unless there is a setting I'm missing. The iPhone drive appears to be > read-only to Windows File Manager. The transfer is both ways. In the Files app, you connect to the Windows shared drive/folder. Again, in the Files app, you then copy to/from Windows. The controls are on the Windows side. The share needs read and write permissions to copy TO Windows. Copying FROM Windows to iOS needs only read permission on the Windows share. Since it works, it is indeed OK.
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-14 12:13 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <vtjmpm$1tv80$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #194447 |
On 2025-04-14 11:20, Tyrone wrote: > On Apr 14, 2025 at 2:05:31 PM EDT, "Tom Elam" <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 4/9/2025 1:11 PM, Alan wrote: >>> On 2025-04-05 22:30, Marion wrote: >>>> Apple products don't work in the real world so something as trivial as >>>> copying a photo from Windows to iOS is almost impossible without the net. >>> Connect to your Windows machine using the Files app on iOS. >>> >>> Done. >> >> That would be OK if it worked. The transfer is one-way, iOS to Windows, >> unless there is a setting I'm missing. The iPhone drive appears to be >> read-only to Windows File Manager. > > The transfer is both ways. > > In the Files app, you connect to the Windows shared drive/folder. Again, in > the Files app, you then copy to/from Windows. The controls are on the Windows > side. The share needs read and write permissions to copy TO Windows. Copying > FROM Windows to iOS needs only read permission on the Windows share. > > Since it works, it is indeed OK. In a week, Liarboy Tom will be back to tell you this information as if he knew it all along.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-15 16:14 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m67evfFfoqnU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #194452 |
On 2025-04-14, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: > On 2025-04-14 11:20, Tyrone wrote: >> On Apr 14, 2025 at 2:05:31 PM EDT, "Tom Elam" <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On 4/9/2025 1:11 PM, Alan wrote: >>>> On 2025-04-05 22:30, Marion wrote: >>>>> Apple products don't work in the real world so something as >>>>> trivial as copying a photo from Windows to iOS is almost >>>>> impossible without the net. >>>> Connect to your Windows machine using the Files app on iOS. >>>> >>>> Done. >>> >>> That would be OK if it worked. The transfer is one-way, iOS to >>> Windows, unless there is a setting I'm missing. The iPhone drive >>> appears to be read-only to Windows File Manager. >> >> The transfer is both ways. >> >> In the Files app, you connect to the Windows shared drive/folder. >> Again, in the Files app, you then copy to/from Windows. The controls >> are on the Windows side. The share needs read and write permissions >> to copy TO Windows. Copying FROM Windows to iOS needs only read >> permission on the Windows share. >> >> Since it works, it is indeed OK. > > In a week, Liarboy Tom will be back to tell you this information as if > he knew it all along. The fact that these trolls *don't* know such a basic fact it says everything you need to know about their ignorance about all things Apple. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Marion <marion@facts.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-15 18:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vtm8a8$2gf$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #194482 |
On 15 Apr 2025 16:14:39 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote :
> The fact that these trolls *don't* know such a basic fact it says
> everything you need to know about their ignorance about all things
> Apple.
Heh heh heh... is this the same Jolly Roger who vehemently (and viciously!)
repeatedly admonished the Windows, Android and Linux newsgroups that he
personally and easily copies files bidirectionally all day with iTunes?
And, specifically, that he backs up his IPAs all the time with iTunes.
Yes. iTunes.
Hmmm...
Since we are "ignorant" about "all things Apple", let's ask JR a question.
Q: How does Jolly Roger back up his iOS IPAs using Windows iTunes?
A: Answer: He doesn't. He lied.
Sure, iTunes of yesteryear used to download a *current* IPA from the App
Store onto the desktop PC, but even then, that IPA is not likely to be the
version of the app that was on Jolly Roger's iOS device. That app might not
even exist anymore on hte Apple App Store. Yet, Jolly Roger says he backs
it up nonetheless. How could that be? Hmmm... maybe Jolly Roger is a liar?
Big deal.
A well-known Apple troll turns out to be... of all things... a liar.
But worse...
Much worse...
Much much worse... in fact...
That iTunes of yesteryear is known to be chock full of zero-day exploits.
Fancy that.
Yet, we don't know anything about "all things apple" Jolly Roger claims.
--
Don't even get me started on Jolly Roger's claims he uses Files:SMB to copy
files bidirectionally between Linux & Android (which are in the real
world).
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-16 01:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m68ga8Fl3ngU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #194499 |
On 2025-04-15, Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote: > On 15 Apr 2025 16:14:39 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote : > > >> The fact that these trolls *don't* know such a basic fact it says >> everything you need to know about their ignorance about all things >> Apple. > > Heh heh heh... is this the same Jolly Roger who vehemently (and viciously!) > repeatedly admonished the Windows, Android and Linux newsgroups that he > personally and easily copies files bidirectionally all day with iTunes? Nope, never said that. You're lying. > And, specifically, that he backs up his IPAs all the time with iTunes. Liar. I've posted instructions in the Apple newsgroups. > Yet, we don't know anything That much is crystal clear. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Marion <marion@facts.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-16 05:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vtngod$2fq4$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #194512 |
On 16 Apr 2025 01:43:37 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote : >> And, specifically, that he backs up his IPAs all the time with iTunes. > > Liar. I've posted instructions in the Apple newsgroups. Look Jolly Roger, you can get away with your Apple trolling crap only on Apple newsgroups where people don't know how Apple devices work, but not here. We know exactly how Apple does things, Jolly Roger. You do not. The fact is... you lied. It's easy to prove you lied. David Empson, many years ago told you that the old (now deprecated) Windows iTunes version 12.6.3 (the last iTunes before iTunes version 12.7) *restored* IPA files through the synchronization process with iOS devices but it could NEVER *obtain* that IPA off the iOS device. Not for the factory apps. And not for the user-installed apps. The reason is the same reason it would be for Windows if you deleted your installer. The installer is no longer on the device. It's in the App Store. When you download an app off the App Store, the app's IPA is deleted after the installation process completes. There's no reason for iOS to save it. Hence, it's obvious you lied, Jolly Roger. There's no IPA on the iOS device to back up. Even that old deprecated iTunes got the IPA off the App Store, Jolly Roger. Not off the iOS device.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-16 18:47 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m6ac9eFtq14U4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #194515 |
On 2025-04-16, Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote: > On 16 Apr 2025 01:43:37 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote : > >>> And, specifically, that he backs up his IPAs all the time with iTunes. >> >> Liar. I've posted instructions in the Apple newsgroups. > > Look Jolly Roger, you can get away with your Apple trolling crap only on > Apple newsgroups where people don't know how Apple devices work, but not > here. We know exactly how Apple does things, Jolly Roger. You do not. This, from the dipshit who claims iOS devices can't run SMB servers, and that file transfers on iOS devices aren't bi-directional. 🤣 > The fact is... you lied. Point out the lie then. Should be *very* easy for you to do. But you won't. Because you can't. Because I didn't lie. > It's easy to prove you lied. David Empson, many years ago told you that the > old (now deprecated) Windows iTunes blah blah blah The instructions I posted did no use iTunes, nor have I claimed that iTunes was capable of that in this thread. You've confused yourself with all of your trolling, little Arlen. 🤣 > There's no IPA on the iOS device to back up. Never made that claim. Stay confused, trollboi! -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-14 12:13 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <vtjmoh$1tva0$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #194446 |
On 2025-04-14 11:05, Tom Elam wrote: > On 4/9/2025 1:11 PM, Alan wrote: >> On 2025-04-05 22:30, Marion wrote: >>> Apple products don't work in the real world so something as trivial as >>> copying a photo from Windows to iOS is almost impossible without the >>> net. >> Connect to your Windows machine using the Files app on iOS. >> >> Done. > > That would be OK if it worked. The transfer is one-way, iOS to Windows, > unless there is a setting I'm missing. The iPhone drive appears to be > read-only to Windows File Manager. As always, you're missing something. At this point, the superficial nature of your investigations is a given 1. The transfer is BOTH ways if you have a Windows folder shared with read/write permissions. 2. You never even SEE the iPhone drive in Windows Explorer (if you use capital letters, that indicates a proper name, and the file manager for Windows is called "Explorer") It works. Perfectly. <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-xDHFCEJvL9LMM42wWxJGx89nmyH4cFL/view?usp=share_link>
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-15 16:13 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m67etiFfoqnU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #194446 |
On 2025-04-14, Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> wrote: > On 4/9/2025 1:11 PM, Alan wrote: >> On 2025-04-05 22:30, Marion wrote: >>> Apple products don't work in the real world so something as trivial >>> as copying a photo from Windows to iOS is almost impossible without >>> the net. >> Connect to your Windows machine using the Files app on iOS. >> >> Done. > > That would be OK if it worked. The transfer is one-way, iOS to > Windows, Bullshit. It's a standard SMB connection where either side can add/edit files to the share. How in the world do you people not know this? -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Marion <marion@facts.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-15 18:32 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vtm8n5$64h$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #194481 |
On 15 Apr 2025 16:13:38 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote : >> That would be OK if it worked. The transfer is one-way, iOS to >> Windows, > > Bullshit. It's a standard SMB connection where either side can add/edit > files to the share. How in the world do you people not know this? While the Files app eventually added an SMB client, the real problem to solve if we ever want Apple devices to work in the real world is to be able to transfer files bidirectionally between iOS & Android/Linux. While setting up an SMB server on Linux isn't all that difficult, since most Linux desktop owners will also have root access, it won't be that simple to set up an SMB server on Android (since most are not rooted). Hence, the real problem with Files:SMB is that it doesn't work in the real world, whereas, the suggestion of using LocalSend does work in the real world. That, in a nutshell, is the fundamental difference between the subterranean caverns of the underground Apple "ecosystem" and the real world above it.
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-15 11:56 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <vtma5g$57tg$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #194501 |
On 2025-04-15 11:32, Marion wrote: > On 15 Apr 2025 16:13:38 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote : > > >>> That would be OK if it worked. The transfer is one-way, iOS to >>> Windows, >> >> Bullshit. It's a standard SMB connection where either side can add/edit >> files to the share. How in the world do you people not know this? > > While the Files app eventually added an SMB client, the real problem to > solve if we ever want Apple devices to work in the real world is to be able > to transfer files bidirectionally between iOS & Android/Linux. Funny... ...this is your thread and the subject is: "How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers" > > While setting up an SMB server on Linux isn't all that difficult, since > most Linux desktop owners will also have root access, it won't be that > simple to set up an SMB server on Android (since most are not rooted). > > Hence, the real problem with Files:SMB is that it doesn't work in the real > world, whereas, the suggestion of using LocalSend does work in the real > world. > > That, in a nutshell, is the fundamental difference between the subterranean > caverns of the underground Apple "ecosystem" and the real world above it. How much do you want to be that Files in iOS will accept the standard URL scheme of appending a port number to an IP address with a colon? :-)
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-15 21:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m682l9Fir6bU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #194501 |
On 2025-04-15, Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote: > On 15 Apr 2025 16:13:38 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote : > >>> That would be OK if it worked. The transfer is one-way, iOS to >>> Windows, >> >> Bullshit. It's a standard SMB connection where either side can add/edit >> files to the share. How in the world do you people not know this? > > While the Files app eventually added an SMB client, the real problem to > solve if we ever want Apple devices to work in the real world is to be able > to transfer files bidirectionally between iOS & Android/Linux. SMB connections are bi-directional. If you knew anything about networking, you'd know that. > While setting up an SMB server on Linux isn't all that difficult, since > most Linux desktop owners will also have root access, it won't be that > simple to set up an SMB server on Android (since most are not rooted). Where the server resides is irrelevant since SMB connections are bi-directional. > Hence, the real problem with Files:SMB is that it doesn't work Several people have told you it works, yet you continue to push this lie. You only come off looking like the foolish troll you are. And badgolferman with you for siding with your lies over reality. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Tyrone <none@none.none> |
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| Date | 2025-04-16 00:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <QKycnSRCPeKLnWL6nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@supernews.com> |
| In reply to | #194503 |
On Apr 15, 2025 at 5:50:33 PM EDT, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > On 2025-04-15, Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote: >> On 15 Apr 2025 16:13:38 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote : >> >>>> That would be OK if it worked. The transfer is one-way, iOS to >>>> Windows, >>> >>> Bullshit. It's a standard SMB connection where either side can add/edit >>> files to the share. How in the world do you people not know this? >> >> While the Files app eventually added an SMB client, the real problem to >> solve if we ever want Apple devices to work in the real world is to be able >> to transfer files bidirectionally between iOS & Android/Linux. > > SMB connections are bi-directional. If you knew anything about > networking, you'd know that. Only if the SERVER being connected to by the CLIENT allows it. >> While setting up an SMB server on Linux isn't all that difficult, since >> most Linux desktop owners will also have root access, it won't be that >> simple to set up an SMB server on Android (since most are not rooted). > > Where the server resides is irrelevant since SMB connections are > bi-directional. Only if the SERVER being connected to by the CLIENT allows it. >> Hence, the real problem with Files:SMB is that it doesn't work > > Several people have told you it works, yet you continue to push this > lie. You only come off looking like the foolish troll you are. And > badgolferman with you for siding with your lies over reality. It works when connecting to a SMB SERVER. Since phones don't typically have a built-in SMB SERVER, there is nothing for an SMB CLIENT to connect to. So iOS <> Android using SMB is not going to work (either direction) until one or the other has an SMB SERVER installed. Both are CLIENTS. Thus, connecting the Files app (SMB CLIENT) to a Windows SMB SERVER or a MacOS SMB SERVER or a Linux SMB SERVER works fine. But you can't connect Windows or MacOS or Linux to a phone. The Client contacts the Server. The Server authenticates the Client. The Client then has whatever access permissions the Server grants. Client/Server. Networking 101, folks. Think of extension power cords and male/female connectors. If you have 2 male (or 2 female) connectors, no connection can be made. 2 clients can't connect and neither can 2 servers. But Windows and Unix and Linux are both Clients AND Servers. You can connect to other servers with Windows/Linux/Unix AND you can receive Client connections. I assume that no one ever considered a phone needing to be a server. As long as it can connect TO servers, there is no need for an SMB server on a phone. Thus, the bottom line is simple. The Files app on iOS works fine. It is VERY EASY to "Copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers". And 2 phone users are not going worry about any of this. One will simply text the photo to the other. Without needing to be on the same wifi network. Without needing to be in the same country. That's Networking 201.
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| From | "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-16 01:21 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <xn0p4l9do28erha002@reader443.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #194505 |
Tyrone wrote: >If you have 2 male (or 2 female) connectors, no >connection can be made. I don't know.... that seems to be a common thing these days and being taught in elementary schools. -- "His absence is good company." ~ Scottish saying
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| From | Tyrone <none@none.none> |
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| Date | 2025-04-16 01:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <cqmcnS5oQe9ymmL6nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@supernews.com> |
| In reply to | #194509 |
On Apr 15, 2025 at 9:21:59 PM EDT, ""badgolferman"" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote: > Tyrone wrote: > >> If you have 2 male (or 2 female) connectors, no >> connection can be made. > > I don't know.... that seems to be a common thing these days and being > taught in elementary schools. LOL, nice. Good one. But seriously. I was thinking of an ELECTRICAL connection!
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| From | Tyrone <none@none.none> |
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| Date | 2025-04-16 01:24 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <e52cnYWCcNZQm2L6nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@supernews.com> |
| In reply to | #194505 |
On Apr 15, 2025 at 8:55:50 PM EDT, "Tyrone" <none@none.none> wrote: > On Apr 15, 2025 at 5:50:33 PM EDT, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > >> On 2025-04-15, Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote: >>> On 15 Apr 2025 16:13:38 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote : >>> >>>>> That would be OK if it worked. The transfer is one-way, iOS to >>>>> Windows, >>>> >>>> Bullshit. It's a standard SMB connection where either side can add/edit >>>> files to the share. How in the world do you people not know this? >>> >>> While the Files app eventually added an SMB client, the real problem to >>> solve if we ever want Apple devices to work in the real world is to be able >>> to transfer files bidirectionally between iOS & Android/Linux. >> >> SMB connections are bi-directional. If you knew anything about >> networking, you'd know that. > > Only if the SERVER being connected to by the CLIENT allows it. > >>> While setting up an SMB server on Linux isn't all that difficult, since >>> most Linux desktop owners will also have root access, it won't be that >>> simple to set up an SMB server on Android (since most are not rooted). >> >> Where the server resides is irrelevant since SMB connections are >> bi-directional. > > Only if the SERVER being connected to by the CLIENT allows it. > >>> Hence, the real problem with Files:SMB is that it doesn't work >> >> Several people have told you it works, yet you continue to push this >> lie. You only come off looking like the foolish troll you are. And >> badgolferman with you for siding with your lies over reality. > > It works when connecting to a SMB SERVER. Since phones don't typically have a > built-in SMB SERVER, there is nothing for an SMB CLIENT to connect to. > > So iOS <> Android using SMB is not going to work (either direction) until one > or the other has an SMB SERVER installed. Both are CLIENTS. > > Thus, connecting the Files app (SMB CLIENT) to a Windows SMB SERVER or a MacOS > SMB SERVER or a Linux SMB SERVER works fine. > > But you can't connect Windows or MacOS or Linux to a phone. The Client > contacts the Server. The Server authenticates the Client. The Client then > has whatever access permissions the Server grants. > > Client/Server. Networking 101, folks. Think of extension power cords and > male/female connectors. If you have 2 male (or 2 female) connectors, no > connection can be made. 2 clients can't connect and neither can 2 servers. > > But Windows and Unix and Linux are both Clients AND Servers. You can connect > to other servers with Windows/Linux/Unix AND you can receive Client > connections. > > I assume that no one ever considered a phone needing to be a server. As long > as it can connect TO servers, there is no need for an SMB server on a phone. > > Thus, the bottom line is simple. The Files app on iOS works fine. It is VERY > EASY to "Copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers". > > And 2 phone users are not going worry about any of this. One will simply text > the photo to the other. Without needing to be on the same wifi network. > Without needing to be in the same country. > > That's Networking 201. Addendum. SMB Server apps exist on the Apple app store. I assume they must also exist for Android. Issue solved.
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| From | Marion <marion@facts.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-16 06:07 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vtnhf8$1edi$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #194510 |
On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 01:24:29 +0000, Tyrone wrote : > SMB Server apps exist on the Apple app store. I assume they must also exist > for Android. > > Issue solved. Frank Slootweg and I discussed this years ago and the problem with Android running an SMB server is the ports are 139 (SMB over NetBIOS) and 445 (SMB directly over TCP/IP) both of which are below 1024 and hence impossible on a non-rooted Android. Since 139 is deprecated, let's just talk about 445. It's my understanding non jailbroken iOS has the exact same restrictions. Windows expects SMB to be on port 445. Yet, you are correct that "SMB Server" apps are advertised on both the Android & iOS App Stores... so it behooves us to understand how they work. Android: "File Manager +": This app, among its many file management features, advertises the ability to create an SMB server. "Cx File Explorer": Similar to "File Manager +", this app also offers SMB server functionality. "FileBrowser Professional": This app is often mentioned for its file sharing capabilities, including SMB. It's a paid app, and its developers claim it offers robust SMB support. "FE File Explorer": This app also advertises SMB server capabilities. Hence the paradox: A. Neither iOS nor Android can run a server on port 445. B. Yet, these apps "advertise" SMB-server functionality. Hmmm... what port do they run on?
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-16 18:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m6ac33Ftq14U3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #194516 |
On 2025-04-16, Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote: > On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 01:24:29 +0000, Tyrone wrote : > >> SMB Server apps exist on the Apple app store. I assume they must also exist >> for Android. >> >> Issue solved. > > Frank Slootweg and I discussed this years ago and the problem with Android > running an SMB server is the ports are 139 (SMB over NetBIOS) and 445 (SMB > directly over TCP/IP) both of which are below 1024 and hence impossible on > a non-rooted Android. Since 139 is deprecated, let's just talk about 445. > > It's my understanding non jailbroken iOS has the exact same restrictions. Little Arlen is dead wrong, as usual: # nc -z rogersiphone 1-65535 Connection to rogersiphone port 445 [tcp/microsoft-ds] succeeded! Arlen is a fucking clown. 🤣 > Hence the paradox: The only paradox here is your constant claim that you supposedly know more than the rest of us about all things Apple, when the glaring truth is you actually know very little. > A. Neither iOS nor Android can run a server on port 445. Wrong. iOS can do this all day. > B. Yet, these apps "advertise" SMB-server functionality. > > Hmmm... what port do they run on? Here's the real question: What does your brain run on (beside irrational hatred of Apple)? You got a hamster wheel jammed up in there or something? -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-16 18:36 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m6ablbFtq14U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #194505 |
On 2025-04-16, Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote: > On Apr 15, 2025 at 5:50:33 PM EDT, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >> On 2025-04-15, Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote: >>> On 15 Apr 2025 16:13:38 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote : >>> >>>>> That would be OK if it worked. The transfer is one-way, iOS to >>>>> Windows, >>>> >>>> Bullshit. It's a standard SMB connection where either side can add/edit >>>> files to the share. How in the world do you people not know this? >>> >>> While the Files app eventually added an SMB client, the real problem to >>> solve if we ever want Apple devices to work in the real world is to be able >>> to transfer files bidirectionally between iOS & Android/Linux. >> >> SMB connections are bi-directional. If you knew anything about >> networking, you'd know that. > > Only if the SERVER being connected to by the CLIENT allows it. That's not an iOS limitation, though. 😉 iOS SMB transfers are indeed bi-directional by nature. If someone misconfigures their file sharing service, they don't get to blame iOS for it. >>> While setting up an SMB server on Linux isn't all that difficult, since >>> most Linux desktop owners will also have root access, it won't be that >>> simple to set up an SMB server on Android (since most are not rooted). >> >> Where the server resides is irrelevant since SMB connections are >> bi-directional. > > Only if the SERVER being connected to by the CLIENT allows it. Again, not an iOS limitation. 😉 >>> Hence, the real problem with Files:SMB is that it doesn't work >> >> Several people have told you it works, yet you continue to push this >> lie. You only come off looking like the foolish troll you are. And >> badgolferman with you for siding with your lies over reality. > > It works when connecting to a SMB SERVER. Since phones don't typically have a > built-in SMB SERVER, there is nothing for an SMB CLIENT to connect to. As is sooooo often the case, There's an App for That™. And with such an app, iOS does indeed have a SMB service to which clients can connect. One such app, LAN drive SAMBA Server Client, has already been mentioned here. It was originally released seven years ago. And there are others. > So iOS <> Android using SMB is not going to work (either direction) until one > or the other has an SMB SERVER installed. Both are CLIENTS. Actually, iOS has been able to do exactly this for many years. > Thus, connecting the Files app (SMB CLIENT) to a Windows SMB SERVER or a MacOS > SMB SERVER or a Linux SMB SERVER works fine. Yep. And contrary to the trolls claims, transfers are bi-directional with the Files app connecting to SMB services. > But you can't connect Windows or MacOS or Linux to a phone. Yes, of course you can. > The Client contacts the Server. An app starts the SMB service on the device. Clients can connect to it using standard methods. > Client/Server. Networking 101, folks. Tell that to the trolls claiming what we've been doing for ages with iOS devices is supposedly impossible. 😉 > I assume that no one ever considered a phone needing to be a server. Someone should probably tell the app developers who though of that ages ago! 🤪 > Thus, the bottom line is simple. The Files app on iOS works fine. It is VERY > EASY to "Copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers". > > And 2 phone users are not going worry about any of this. One will simply text > the photo to the other. Without needing to be on the same wifi network. > Without needing to be in the same country. > > That's Networking 201. Yes, generally there are faster and better methods to transfer files. The Apple trolls are using this method as a way to try to claim Apple devices can't do simple file sharing. And they've been proven wrong once again by those of us who know better. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-09 20:38 -0700 |
| Subject | Just use iOS files and SMB (was Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers |
| Message-ID | <vt7efa$2541n$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #194117 |
On 2025-04-05 22:30, Marion wrote: > Apple products don't work in the real world so something as trivial as > copying a photo from Windows to iOS is almost impossible without the net. > > In a Windows/Android thread, we've been discussing how to use screenshots > to get past Android security, when Steve Sharf noted that iOS lacks > Android's security so we can successfully screenshot iOS on Windows PCs. > <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=58173&group=comp.mobile.android#58173> > "Ironically, iOS doesn't have the capability for apps to restrict > screenshots. I've used an iPhone, on at least two occasions, to do a > screenshot of a virtual ID card that I wanted to add to my Google > Wallet. Transferred the image from the iPhone to my Android phone." > > So the plan is to install these apps on iOS & Android to do cartooning. > > iOS "Voila" > <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/voil%C3%A0-ai-artist-cartoon-ghibli/id1558421405> > Android "Voila" > <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wemagineai.voila> > > iOS "ToonMe" > <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/toonme-ai-cartoon-face-maker/id1508120751 > Android "ToonMe" > <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vicman.toonmeapp> > > iOS "Photo Lab" > <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/photo-lab-playground-ai/id6443653724> > Android "Photo Lab" > <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=vsin.t16_funny_photo> > > The main problem now is how to perform the trivial task of copying > a photo from the Windows PC to the iOS device without using Apple's > iTunes abomination bloatware (& insecureware), or Internet servers. > > Has anyone on this newsgroup ever copied a photo from Windows to iOS > without having to create an account on someone's server on the net? Yup. Turn on file sharing on your Windows PC on the same LAN as your iOS device (Control Panel: Network & Sharing Center) and turn on Sharing for some folder. Make sure you have a password on your user account (local or Microsoft cloud-based). Get the IP address of your Windows PC. Launch the Files app on your iOS device and from the ellipsis in the top right, choose "Connect to Server" and enter the IP address of your PC. When prompted, enter your PC user ID and password. You're now connected to the server, and you can go straight into the sharing interface in the Photos app to "Export Unmodified Original" and navigate to that connected server. Done.
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