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Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers

From Tyrone <none@none.none>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.ipad, comp.sys.mac.advocacy, misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Subject Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers
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Date 2025-04-16 00:55 +0000

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On Apr 15, 2025 at 5:50:33 PM EDT, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2025-04-15, Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:
>> On 15 Apr 2025 16:13:38 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote :
>> 
>>>> That would be OK if it worked. The transfer is one-way, iOS to
>>>> Windows,
>>> 
>>> Bullshit. It's a standard SMB connection where either side can add/edit
>>> files to the share. How in the world do you people not know this?
>> 
>> While the Files app eventually added an SMB client, the real problem to
>> solve if we ever want Apple devices to work in the real world is to be able
>> to transfer files bidirectionally between iOS & Android/Linux.
> 
> SMB connections are bi-directional. If you knew anything about
> networking, you'd know that.

Only if the SERVER being connected to by the CLIENT allows it. 

>> While setting up an SMB server on Linux isn't all that difficult, since
>> most Linux desktop owners will also have root access, it won't be that
>> simple to set up an SMB server on Android (since most are not rooted).
> 
> Where the server resides is irrelevant since SMB connections are
> bi-directional.

Only if the SERVER being connected to by the CLIENT allows it.

>> Hence, the real problem with Files:SMB is that it doesn't work
> 
> Several people have told you it works, yet you continue to push this
> lie. You only come off looking like the foolish troll you are. And
> badgolferman with you for siding with your lies over reality.

It works when connecting to a SMB SERVER. Since phones don't typically have a
built-in SMB SERVER, there is nothing for an SMB CLIENT to connect to.

So iOS <> Android using SMB is not going to work (either direction) until one
or the other has an SMB SERVER installed. Both are CLIENTS.   

Thus, connecting the Files app (SMB CLIENT) to a Windows SMB SERVER or a MacOS
SMB SERVER or a Linux SMB SERVER works fine. 

But you can't connect Windows or MacOS or Linux to a phone. The Client
contacts the Server.  The Server authenticates the Client.  The Client then
has whatever access permissions the Server grants. 

Client/Server.  Networking 101, folks. Think of extension power cords and
male/female connectors. If you have 2 male (or 2 female) connectors, no
connection can be made.  2 clients can't connect and neither can 2 servers. 

But Windows and Unix and Linux are both Clients AND Servers. You can connect
to other servers with Windows/Linux/Unix AND you can receive Client
connections. 

I assume that no one ever considered a phone needing to be a server. As long
as it can connect TO servers, there is no need for an SMB server on a phone. 

Thus, the bottom line is simple.  The Files app on iOS works fine. It is VERY
EASY to "Copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers".

And 2 phone users are not going worry about any of this. One will simply text
the photo to the other. Without needing to be on the same wifi network. 
Without needing to be in the same country. 

That's Networking 201.

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How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-06 05:30 +0000
  Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-04-06 05:50 +0000
    Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-06 07:16 +0000
      Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-04-07 04:30 +0000
        Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-07 10:54 +0000
          Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-04-08 19:30 +0000
            Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-11 21:56 +0000
              Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-12 07:22 +0000
                Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-12 21:31 +0000
                Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-12 21:55 +0000
                Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-12 22:20 +0000
                Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-13 01:59 +0000
                Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-12 23:13 -0700
                Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-16 19:24 +0000
                Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-12 15:21 -0700
                Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-13 00:25 +0000
                Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-13 02:42 +0000
                Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-13 00:46 -0700
                Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-16 19:21 +0000
              Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-04-13 18:50 +0000
                Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-15 18:11 +0000
                Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-04-16 14:00 +0000
                Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2025-04-17 07:41 +0200
    Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-04-06 19:54 +1200
      Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-06 08:50 +0000
      Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-04-07 04:30 +0000
        Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-04-07 19:25 +1200
          Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-07 10:47 +0000
  Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 10:45 +0000
    Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-06 11:20 +0000
      Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 11:40 +0000
        Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-06 11:59 +0000
          Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 13:01 +0000
            Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 13:18 +0000
              Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 14:48 +0000
                Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-13 07:07 +0000
                Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-13 12:46 +0000
                Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-13 09:27 -0700
                Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-14 10:27 +0000
                Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-14 12:08 -0700
                Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-14 19:38 +0000
                Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-14 14:58 -0700
  Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Rick <rick@nospam.com> - 2025-04-06 08:43 -0400
    Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 13:02 +0000
      Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Rick <rick@nospam.com> - 2025-04-06 10:19 -0400
        Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-06 20:09 +0000
  Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers bp@www.zefox.net - 2025-04-06 15:50 +0000
  Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Zaidy036 <Zaidy036@air.isp.spam> - 2025-04-06 11:54 -0400
  Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-06 16:30 +0000
    Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-07 11:00 +0000
      Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-07 11:10 +0000
        Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-07 13:01 +0000
      Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers TheCivvie <thecivvie@gmail-antispam.com> - 2025-04-09 18:40 +0100
        Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-10 19:34 +0000
  Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-09 10:11 -0700
    Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-09 18:39 +0000
      Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Ivano Rossi <Ivano.Rossi@nospam.tin.it> - 2025-04-10 22:28 +0200
        Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-10 13:42 -0700
        Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-10 23:44 +0000
    Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-14 14:05 -0400
      Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-14 18:20 +0000
        Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-14 12:13 -0700
          Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-15 16:14 +0000
            Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-15 18:25 +0000
              Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-16 01:43 +0000
                Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-16 05:55 +0000
                Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-16 18:47 +0000
      Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-14 12:13 -0700
      Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-15 16:13 +0000
        Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-15 18:32 +0000
          Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-15 11:56 -0700
          Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-15 21:50 +0000
            Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-16 00:55 +0000
              Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-16 01:21 +0000
                Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-16 01:29 +0000
              Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-16 01:24 +0000
                Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-16 06:07 +0000
                Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-16 18:43 +0000
              Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-16 18:36 +0000
  Just use iOS files and SMB (was Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-09 20:38 -0700
    Re: Just use iOS files and SMB (was Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-10 11:06 +0000
      Re: Just use iOS files and SMB (was Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-10 09:59 -0700
        Re: Just use iOS files and SMB (was Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-10 17:17 +0000
          Re: Just use iOS files and SMB (was Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-10 20:35 +0000
            Re: Just use iOS files and SMB (was Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-10 13:43 -0700
            Re: Just use iOS files and SMB (was Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-10 20:57 +0000
              Re: Just use iOS files and SMB (was Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-10 15:35 -0700
              Re: Just use iOS files and SMB (was Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-10 23:31 +0000
                Re: Just use iOS files and SMB (was Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-10 17:28 -0700
                Re: Just use iOS files and SMB (was Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-11 00:40 +0000
                Re: Just use iOS files and SMB (was Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-10 17:41 -0700
                Re: Just use iOS files and SMB (was Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-11 08:04 +0000
                Re: Just use iOS files and SMB (was Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-11 10:24 -0700

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