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  How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-24 22:11 -0400
    Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-24 22:23 -0400
      Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-24 22:49 -0400
        Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-24 23:35 -0400
          Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-24 23:46 -0400
            Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-24 20:59 -0700
              Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2026-10-25 17:24 +1300
                Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-25 00:29 -0400
                  Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-25 00:41 -0400
                    Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-25 01:28 -0400
                      Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-25 07:57 -0400
                  Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-25 01:31 -0700
                Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-25 01:31 -0700
        Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-24 21:00 -0700
    Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Nick Charles <none@none.none> - 2026-10-25 14:08 +0000
      Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-25 22:30 -0400
        Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2026-10-26 09:18 +0100
          Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-26 06:51 -0400
            Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2026-10-26 14:18 +0100
              Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-26 09:36 -0400
                Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-26 10:34 -0400
                  Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2026-10-26 21:22 +0100
                    Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-26 19:36 -0400
                Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-26 12:50 -0400
                  Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-26 13:25 -0400
                    Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-26 14:05 -0400
                      Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-26 15:24 -0400
                      Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-26 21:33 -0400
                        Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-26 18:48 -0700
                          Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2026-10-27 18:11 +1300
                            Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Nick Charles <none@none.none> - 2026-10-27 14:39 +0000
                              Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-28 00:12 -0400
                        Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-26 22:53 -0400
                    Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-26 11:15 -0700
                    Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-26 20:13 -0400
          Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Nick Charles <none@none.none> - 2026-10-26 13:47 +0000
            Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-26 23:00 +0100
              Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-28 00:02 -0400
                Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-28 18:32 +0100
                  Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-28 15:57 -0400
                  Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-28 21:01 -0400
                    Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2026-10-28 22:19 -0400
                      Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-28 23:00 -0400
                        Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-29 03:01 -0400
                          Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-29 14:14 -0400
                            Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-29 11:57 -0700
                        Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-29 12:03 +0100
                          Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-29 11:24 -0400
                            Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-29 21:05 +0100
                              Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-29 16:31 -0400
                                Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-29 21:20 -0400
                                  Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-29 18:45 -0700
          Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-10-27 18:34 +0000
            Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-27 12:01 -0700
    Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Ammammata <ammammata@tiscali.it> - 2026-10-25 18:27 +0100
      Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-25 11:01 -0700
      Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-25 16:36 -0400
        Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-25 17:42 -0700
    Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Zaidy036 <Zaidy036@air.isp.spam> - 2026-10-25 18:14 -0400
      Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-25 22:45 -0400
        Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-27 13:17 +0100
          Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-27 10:15 -0400
            Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-27 20:18 +0100
              Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-27 17:02 -0400
                Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-27 23:09 +0100
                  Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-27 23:53 -0400
                    Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-28 18:27 +0100
                      Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-28 16:31 -0400
              Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-10-28 08:18 +0000
                Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-28 16:37 -0400
                  Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-28 13:54 -0700
                    Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-29 00:33 -0400
                      Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-28 22:24 -0700
                      Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-10-30 00:27 -0400
          Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-27 10:41 -0400
            Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-27 20:21 +0100
    Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-10-30 12:00 +1100

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#203288 — Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY

Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> Good point! I used to have top-secret clearance (which is now called
>> TS/SCI), but that was long ago when I worked in a building with heavy
>> curtains on all the windows at Fort Meade on "stuff" (while they were
>> building their new secure facility that had no windows at all in it).
> 
> Not that far, but I worked for a company that did use tempest proof 
> windows, so that mobile phones would not work inside the building, then 
> they had to install internal transmitters, because they gave mobiles to 
> their employees. They also disabled WiFi in their warehouse section, 
> they did not trust it (year 2000).
> 
> Windows laptops for people working on external sites had to connect 
> typing a password that was half remembered, and the other part coming 
> from a small dongle we carried somewhere in us. Every minute the key 
> changed.
> 
> And we could not connect via internet, or via the networked system of 
> their clients. We had to connect via modem to a gratis phone number.
> 
> Not as paranoid as the CIA, but still paranoid enough for a private 
> company. Once inside, the documentation was free to access to almost 
> anybody, it was a dream come true.

Oh, that's interesting. You learn a lot about what 'can' be done when you
work with these fellows, which, I guess, is what drove Snowden to do it.

I was there before cellphones were a thing, but, before we had clearance
(it wasn't just me, it was an entire group of people, we couldn't bring
transparencies, which, in those days, was how we did presentations. 

This wasn't the CIA, but something like that, and every department had a
numerical name, such as R123, but what I remember most vividly was the had
requirements for the software that nobody else in the world had asked for.

But, luckily for me, internally, when I needed to FedEx a magtape to the
home office for overnight bugfixes (again, that's how we did things then),
they were fixed quickly, and FedExed back, where many were buffer overflows
as much of the code was written in Fortran way back then.

It was phone, fax and Fedex, as those were the fastest means of transit.

Since this particular TLA used the software differently (which even then,
cost about a million dollars a seat), we could tell what they were doing by
the strangeness of their requirements, which no commercial company needed. 

Interestingly, since the company, like any company, had, oh, let's say 100
products, they were the only entity that bought every single product.

I never knew if that was because they didn't want anyone to know which
product was the most useful to them (since internally people knew), or if
they really were the only company that had no cost constraints at all.

But they did use some of the products that nobody else used, which, again,
made supporting them all the more difficult, as it's harder to help them.

All in all, when I learned what they were doing, which, well, in today's
day and age, I doubt anyone would be surprised, but I was shocked because
here I was this innocent little kid who played by the rules all the time.

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#203289 — Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY

On 10/28/2026 9:01 PM, Maria Sophia wrote:
> Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> Good point! I used to have top-secret clearance (which is now called
>>> TS/SCI), but that was long ago when I worked in a building with heavy
>>> curtains on all the windows at Fort Meade on "stuff" (while they were
>>> building their new secure facility that had no windows at all in it).
>>
>> Not that far, but I worked for a company that did use tempest proof
>> windows, so that mobile phones would not work inside the building, then
>> they had to install internal transmitters, because they gave mobiles to
>> their employees. They also disabled WiFi in their warehouse section,
>> they did not trust it (year 2000).
>>
>> Windows laptops for people working on external sites had to connect
>> typing a password that was half remembered, and the other part coming
>> from a small dongle we carried somewhere in us. Every minute the key
>> changed.
>>
>> And we could not connect via internet, or via the networked system of
>> their clients. We had to connect via modem to a gratis phone number.
>>
>> Not as paranoid as the CIA, but still paranoid enough for a private
>> company. Once inside, the documentation was free to access to almost
>> anybody, it was a dream come true.
> 
> Oh, that's interesting. You learn a lot about what 'can' be done when you
> work with these fellows, which, I guess, is what drove Snowden to do it.
> 
> I was there before cellphones were a thing, but, before we had clearance
> (it wasn't just me, it was an entire group of people, we couldn't bring
> transparencies, which, in those days, was how we did presentations.
> 
> This wasn't the CIA, but something like that, and every department had a
> numerical name, such as R123, but what I remember most vividly was the had
> requirements for the software that nobody else in the world had asked for.
> 
> But, luckily for me, internally, when I needed to FedEx a magtape to the
> home office for overnight bugfixes (again, that's how we did things then),
> they were fixed quickly, and FedExed back, where many were buffer overflows
> as much of the code was written in Fortran way back then.
> 
> It was phone, fax and Fedex, as those were the fastest means of transit.
> 
> Since this particular TLA used the software differently (which even then,
> cost about a million dollars a seat), we could tell what they were doing by
> the strangeness of their requirements, which no commercial company needed.
> 
> Interestingly, since the company, like any company, had, oh, let's say 100
> products, they were the only entity that bought every single product.
> 
> I never knew if that was because they didn't want anyone to know which
> product was the most useful to them (since internally people knew), or if
> they really were the only company that had no cost constraints at all.
> 
> But they did use some of the products that nobody else used, which, again,
> made supporting them all the more difficult, as it's harder to help them.
> 
> All in all, when I learned what they were doing, which, well, in today's
> day and age, I doubt anyone would be surprised, but I was shocked because
> here I was this innocent little kid who played by the rules all the time.
When I want to transfer information from my computer (Windows) I use the 
Bluetooth function.   You can transfer any file either from or to the 
cell phone.   Using the Bluetooth, there is no fuss.  highlight the file 
Select Share (Android), select Bluetooth,  On the computer click the 
Bluetooth Icon and select share, the click the computer on the cell phone.

Going from computer to cellphone is easier as you as you select share on 
the file and select Bluetooth, and the computer.

No worry about internet, email, security or anything else it is a direct 
cellphone to computer transfer

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#203290 — Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY

knuttle wrote:
> When I want to transfer information from my computer (Windows) I use the 
> Bluetooth function.   You can transfer any file either from or to the 
> cell phone.   Using the Bluetooth, there is no fuss.  highlight the file 
> Select Share (Android), select Bluetooth,  On the computer click the 
> Bluetooth Icon and select share, the click the computer on the cell phone.
> 
> Going from computer to cellphone is easier as you as you select share on 
> the file and select Bluetooth, and the computer.
> 
> No worry about internet, email, security or anything else it is a direct 
> cellphone to computer transfer

I think there's a subtopic tangential offshoot of this very thread where
bluetooth would work just fine if Apple didn't purposely break it for iOS.

Since iOS is expressly designed by Apple to NOT interoperate with Windows,
it shouldn't be surprising that we'd "think" bluetooth would work, since it
works with every other common consumer operating system, and Windows.

Just not with iOS.

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#203298 — Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY

On Wed, 10/28/2026 11:00 PM, Maria Sophia wrote:
> knuttle wrote:
>> When I want to transfer information from my computer (Windows) I use the 
>> Bluetooth function.   You can transfer any file either from or to the 
>> cell phone.   Using the Bluetooth, there is no fuss.  highlight the file 
>> Select Share (Android), select Bluetooth,  On the computer click the 
>> Bluetooth Icon and select share, the click the computer on the cell phone.
>>
>> Going from computer to cellphone is easier as you as you select share on 
>> the file and select Bluetooth, and the computer.
>>
>> No worry about internet, email, security or anything else it is a direct 
>> cellphone to computer transfer
> 
> I think there's a subtopic tangential offshoot of this very thread where
> bluetooth would work just fine if Apple didn't purposely break it for iOS.
> 
> Since iOS is expressly designed by Apple to NOT interoperate with Windows,
> it shouldn't be surprising that we'd "think" bluetooth would work, since it
> works with every other common consumer operating system, and Windows.
> 
> Just not with iOS.
> 

I keep looking at the help files on the web from Apple,
and the only result I get from reading them, is an
indication I should not be buying the device. It's obvious
"their way or the highway". That's OK, the world won't flip
its axis because I didn't buy an Apple product :-)

I'm a desktop person, because desktops work for me. They
don't constantly disappoint me, only occasional disappointment
is the result :-)  [ And that's a real smiley there ]

For example, my new video card, the driver wouldn't load on it
in Linux. But ~5 hours work (I'm "careful" when I do this stuff
and most of the time was getting the backup done), and the problem
was solved. I only restored from backup one time, before the update
I needed, worked properly. I knew there would be carnage before
I started, so this was all purposeful steps, no novelty was involved.
I had a good idea what trouble it would cause, and it wasn't guaranteed
it would fix it either. It was just "most likely" to fix it. The Google
search didn't address the issue directly, as in what kernel release
would have the goods.

I used the same approach when my Windows box tipped over a week ago,
and things were looking pretty bad for a while. I thought I was cooked.
But I got lucky, the system died in the login prompt, and that
seemed to trigger some recovery behavior in the OS. It did "something"
to the computer, that fixed it. I would rather know what it was
that it fixed, I looked in the SRTtrail folder but could not see
any step in there that looked like a "fix".

I see one reference in Google, to

   X:\windows\system32\logfiles\Srt\SrtTrail.txt

and that means the log was actually on X: before the
system rebooted and X: was gone (as X: is a RAMdisk used
by WinPE/WinRE). It doesn't give you a chance to do anything
before it reboots, so looking at the folder would
have required a miracle. That's an auto-repair, which is
why there is no user interaction possible.

*******

By comparison, things smaller than a desktop, just
aren't a "good time". Too restrictive. Do I have to
smash everything with a hammer, to get things done ?
There must be a better way.

      Paul

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#203307 — Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY

Paul wrote:
>> Since iOS is expressly designed by Apple to NOT interoperate with Windows,
>> it shouldn't be surprising that we'd "think" bluetooth would work, since it
>> works with every other common consumer operating system, and Windows.
>> 
>> Just not with iOS.
>> 
> 
> I keep looking at the help files on the web from Apple,
> and the only result I get from reading them, is an
> indication I should not be buying the device.

I've learned, over the decades, that Apple 'says' they cripple iOS "for our
safety", but the real reason copy fails is iOS prevents interoperability.

If an Apple device worked in the real world, Apple's profits would plummet.

It would be too easy for an iPhone to just work with USB, for example.
Or to just work with bluetooth, or even to just work with Wi-Fi on the LAN.

Nope. You have to use Apple-only products in an Apple-only ecosystem if you
want an Apple device to play well with Windows (or, as noted, with Linux).

> "their way or the highway". That's OK, the world won't flip
> its axis because I didn't buy an Apple product :-)

When I first bought an iPhone for one of my kids, she wanted it pink, which
should have been a warning, and it had to have "I'm a Barbie girl" as a
ringtone (this was in the days of Limewire, well before YouTube I think).

Over the years, I've learned Apple owners are cultivated, by Apple, to do
things the Apple way, even as I grew up in a world where I do what I want.

> By comparison, things smaller than a desktop, just
> aren't a "good time". Too restrictive. Do I have to
> smash everything with a hammer, to get things done ?
> There must be a better way.

Luckily, if we are stuck on an iOS device and we want to bidirectionally
transfer the clipboard (or file) over USB or over Wi-Fi to Windows, we can.

It's just the classic Apple kluge to do it.

1. Either use the iOS native Files app and set up a two-way smb share
2. Or, start with the Files app and then use LocalSend for the sharing

Both work.

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#203311 — Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY

On 29 Oct 2026, Maria Sophia wrote in
<11c02du$pgj$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>:
> Paul wrote:
>>> Since iOS is expressly designed by Apple to NOT interoperate
>>> with Windows, it shouldn't be surprising that we'd "think"
>>> bluetooth would work, since it works with every other common
>>> consumer operating system, and Windows.
>>> 
>>> Just not with iOS.
>>> 
>> 
>> I keep looking at the help files on the web from Apple, and the
>> only result I get from reading them, is an
>> indication I should not be buying the device.
> 
> I've learned, over the decades, that Apple 'says' they cripple iOS
> "for our safety", but the real reason copy fails is iOS prevents
> interoperability.

They never say that.
> 
> If an Apple device worked in the real world, Apple's profits would
> plummet.

This is not a rational statement.
> 
> It would be too easy for an iPhone to just work with USB, for
> example. Or to just work with bluetooth, or even to just work with
> Wi-Fi on the LAN.

My iPhone works with BlueTooth and Wi-Fi just fine. On the rare
occasion I have used USB with it, that has also worked fine -- but
there is rarely a need for it.
> 
> Nope. You have to use Apple-only products in an Apple-only
> ecosystem if you want an Apple device to play well with Windows
> (or, as noted, with Linux).

You just moved goalposts. And Windows works no better with iPhones
than iPhones work with Windows. So?
> 
>> "their way or the highway". That's OK, the world won't flip its
>> axis because I didn't buy an Apple product :-)
> 
> When I first bought an iPhone for one of my kids,

You hate the product and the company but you still buy iPhones? That
sounds very unlikely.

> she wanted it
> pink, which should have been a warning, and it had to have "I'm a
> Barbie girl" as a ringtone (this was in the days of Limewire, well
> before YouTube I think).
> 
> Over the years, I've learned Apple owners are cultivated, by
> Apple, to do things the Apple way, even as I grew up in a world
> where I do what I want.

Your complaint is the color. Wow.
> 
>> By comparison, things smaller than a desktop, just
>> aren't a "good time". Too restrictive. Do I have to smash
>> everything with a hammer, to get things done ? There must be a
>> better way.
> 
> Luckily, if we are stuck on an iOS device and we want to
> bidirectionally transfer the clipboard (or file) over USB or over
> Wi-Fi to Windows, we can.

I use a shared clipboard on my iPhone and my laptop with (mostly) no
issue. Just works. As it should .

> It's just the classic Apple kluge to do it.
> 
> 1. Either use the iOS native Files app and set up a two-way smb
> share 2. Or, start with the Files app and then use LocalSend for
> the sharing
> 
> Both work.
> 
Or just copy and paste... and SMB and the Files App have nothing to
do with it.


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#203302 — Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY

On 2026-10-29 04:00, Maria Sophia wrote:
> knuttle wrote:
>> When I want to transfer information from my computer (Windows) I use the
>> Bluetooth function.   You can transfer any file either from or to the
>> cell phone.   Using the Bluetooth, there is no fuss.  highlight the file
>> Select Share (Android), select Bluetooth,  On the computer click the
>> Bluetooth Icon and select share, the click the computer on the cell phone.
>>
>> Going from computer to cellphone is easier as you as you select share on
>> the file and select Bluetooth, and the computer.
>>
>> No worry about internet, email, security or anything else it is a direct
>> cellphone to computer transfer
> 
> I think there's a subtopic tangential offshoot of this very thread where
> bluetooth would work just fine if Apple didn't purposely break it for iOS.
> 
> Since iOS is expressly designed by Apple to NOT interoperate with Windows,
> it shouldn't be surprising that we'd "think" bluetooth would work, since it
> works with every other common consumer operating system, and Windows.
> 
> Just not with iOS.

It also doesn't work with Linux (from/to Android), AFAIK. Somebody has 
to implement it, not that they don't want to.

Maybe I am mistaken and there is a desktop that does it.


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#203304 — Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY

On Thu, 10/29/2026 7:03 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2026-10-29 04:00, Maria Sophia wrote:
>> knuttle wrote:
>>> When I want to transfer information from my computer (Windows) I use the
>>> Bluetooth function.   You can transfer any file either from or to the
>>> cell phone.   Using the Bluetooth, there is no fuss.  highlight the file
>>> Select Share (Android), select Bluetooth,  On the computer click the
>>> Bluetooth Icon and select share, the click the computer on the cell phone.
>>>
>>> Going from computer to cellphone is easier as you as you select share on
>>> the file and select Bluetooth, and the computer.
>>>
>>> No worry about internet, email, security or anything else it is a direct
>>> cellphone to computer transfer
>>
>> I think there's a subtopic tangential offshoot of this very thread where
>> bluetooth would work just fine if Apple didn't purposely break it for iOS.
>>
>> Since iOS is expressly designed by Apple to NOT interoperate with Windows,
>> it shouldn't be surprising that we'd "think" bluetooth would work, since it
>> works with every other common consumer operating system, and Windows.
>>
>> Just not with iOS.
> 
> It also doesn't work with Linux (from/to Android), AFAIK. Somebody has to implement it, not that they don't want to.
> 
> Maybe I am mistaken and there is a desktop that does it.
> 
> 

I can find a reference here.

  https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/779545/is-it-possible-to-use-bluetooth-for-transferring-files-between-an-android-phone

      "On the odd occasion when I need to get a file to my phone (or indeed
       someone else's!) but have no alternative to bluetooth then blueman
       has filled that niche.

       Not fast and maybe a bit of juggling to get to the "accept transfer" dialogue
       on the phone, but other than this it has been reliable for me and is as simple as

          systemctl --user start obex
          blueman-sendto --device=$phone_mac_address "$filename"
      "

   Paul

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#203314 — Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY

On 2026-10-29 16:24, Paul wrote:
> On Thu, 10/29/2026 7:03 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2026-10-29 04:00, Maria Sophia wrote:
>>> knuttle wrote:
>>>> When I want to transfer information from my computer (Windows) I use the
>>>> Bluetooth function.   You can transfer any file either from or to the
>>>> cell phone.   Using the Bluetooth, there is no fuss.  highlight the file
>>>> Select Share (Android), select Bluetooth,  On the computer click the
>>>> Bluetooth Icon and select share, the click the computer on the cell phone.
>>>>
>>>> Going from computer to cellphone is easier as you as you select share on
>>>> the file and select Bluetooth, and the computer.
>>>>
>>>> No worry about internet, email, security or anything else it is a direct
>>>> cellphone to computer transfer
>>>
>>> I think there's a subtopic tangential offshoot of this very thread where
>>> bluetooth would work just fine if Apple didn't purposely break it for iOS.
>>>
>>> Since iOS is expressly designed by Apple to NOT interoperate with Windows,
>>> it shouldn't be surprising that we'd "think" bluetooth would work, since it
>>> works with every other common consumer operating system, and Windows.
>>>
>>> Just not with iOS.
>>
>> It also doesn't work with Linux (from/to Android), AFAIK. Somebody has to implement it, not that they don't want to.
>>
>> Maybe I am mistaken and there is a desktop that does it.
>>
>>
> 
> I can find a reference here.
> 
>    https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/779545/is-it-possible-to-use-bluetooth-for-transferring-files-between-an-android-phone
> 
>        "On the odd occasion when I need to get a file to my phone (or indeed
>         someone else's!) but have no alternative to bluetooth then blueman
>         has filled that niche.
> 
>         Not fast and maybe a bit of juggling to get to the "accept transfer" dialogue
>         on the phone, but other than this it has been reliable for me and is as simple as
> 
>            systemctl --user start obex
>            blueman-sendto --device=$phone_mac_address "$filename"
>        "

What I do, is fire up the Cx file manager in Android, select "network", 
then start its internal FTP server. Then reach that server from Linux 
with any standard tools in my LAN.

It works for me, easy and fast, because I am used to these kind of 
tools. And the computer source of the files I'm now transferring doesn't 
have BT configured.

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#203317 — Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY

On Thu, 10/29/2026 4:05 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2026-10-29 16:24, Paul wrote:
>> On Thu, 10/29/2026 7:03 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> On 2026-10-29 04:00, Maria Sophia wrote:
>>>> knuttle wrote:
>>>>> When I want to transfer information from my computer (Windows) I use the
>>>>> Bluetooth function.   You can transfer any file either from or to the
>>>>> cell phone.   Using the Bluetooth, there is no fuss.  highlight the file
>>>>> Select Share (Android), select Bluetooth,  On the computer click the
>>>>> Bluetooth Icon and select share, the click the computer on the cell phone.
>>>>>
>>>>> Going from computer to cellphone is easier as you as you select share on
>>>>> the file and select Bluetooth, and the computer.
>>>>>
>>>>> No worry about internet, email, security or anything else it is a direct
>>>>> cellphone to computer transfer
>>>>
>>>> I think there's a subtopic tangential offshoot of this very thread where
>>>> bluetooth would work just fine if Apple didn't purposely break it for iOS.
>>>>
>>>> Since iOS is expressly designed by Apple to NOT interoperate with Windows,
>>>> it shouldn't be surprising that we'd "think" bluetooth would work, since it
>>>> works with every other common consumer operating system, and Windows.
>>>>
>>>> Just not with iOS.
>>>
>>> It also doesn't work with Linux (from/to Android), AFAIK. Somebody has to implement it, not that they don't want to.
>>>
>>> Maybe I am mistaken and there is a desktop that does it.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I can find a reference here.
>>
>>    https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/779545/is-it-possible-to-use-bluetooth-for-transferring-files-between-an-android-phone
>>
>>        "On the odd occasion when I need to get a file to my phone (or indeed
>>         someone else's!) but have no alternative to bluetooth then blueman
>>         has filled that niche.
>>
>>         Not fast and maybe a bit of juggling to get to the "accept transfer" dialogue
>>         on the phone, but other than this it has been reliable for me and is as simple as
>>
>>            systemctl --user start obex
>>            blueman-sendto --device=$phone_mac_address "$filename"
>>        "
> 
> What I do, is fire up the Cx file manager in Android, select "network", 
> then start its internal FTP server. Then reach that server from Linux with
> any standard tools in my LAN.
> 
> It works for me, easy and fast, because I am used to these kind of tools. 
> And the computer source of the files I'm now transferring doesn't have BT configured.

Between windows machines and between windows and Linux, the Bluetooth Send worked
from either end. It was something that worked earlier in the life of their
hand-hewn BT stack.

The Bluetooth TCP/IP stack on the other hand, that wasn't working until relatively
recently. And maybe that would be part of what the CX Explorer is doing.

I've had a file transfer working over the BT TCP/IP using File Sharing,
just to see if the transfer rate was the same (~75KB/sec). That seemed to
work OK, but the IP address used is outside the /24 netmask, and you have
to widen the mask to get that to work. I think I might have needed to do
that as a separate step. You use an "ipconfig" first, to see if the
address is going to be immediately useful or not, and whether an
additional step is needed.

I don't expect "details" to bother anyone at Microsoft. The IP address is
what it is, because that's handled as IFS (Internet File Sharing).

The Bluetooth Send is different, as it seems to use a different profile
and it might be OBEX.

  https://stackoverflow.com/questions/58131950/passing-arguments-to-fsquirt-exe

     Paul

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#203321 — Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY

Paul wrote:
>> What I do, is fire up the Cx file manager in Android, select "network", 
>> then start its internal FTP server. Then reach that server from Linux with
>> any standard tools in my LAN.
>> 
>> It works for me, easy and fast, because I am used to these kind of tools. 
>> And the computer source of the files I'm now transferring doesn't have BT configured.
> 
> Between windows machines and between windows and Linux, the Bluetooth Send worked
> from either end. It was something that worked earlier in the life of their
> hand-hewn BT stack.
> 
> The Bluetooth TCP/IP stack on the other hand, that wasn't working until relatively
> recently. And maybe that would be part of what the CX Explorer is doing.

Just to note the initial problem was the clipboard, but, of course, the
clipboard can be pasted into a file on most platforms other than iOS.

On iOS the clipboard can be pasted into a file too, as Nick Charles kindly
suggested, but you have to do it the Apple way, which isn't always
intuitive.

Luckily, with Vysor or scrcpy the Android/desktop clipboard is shared.
 1. Click one is copy the clipboard (on one platform)
 2. Click two is control-V on the keyboard (on the other platform)
    <https://i.postimg.cc/ZRCTyRx0/scrcpy35.jpg>

Luckily, with Vysor, even iOS can be two steps with Windows.
    <https://i.postimg.cc/TYvqdxCT/vysor35.jpg>
But, it's about 20 steps (or so) on iOS if you use the Apple way to do it.

If anyone on the Apple ng can get that down to the 2 clicks that it should
be, that would be an improvement over the kludge way Apple does things.

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#203322 — Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY

On 29 Oct 2026, Maria Sophia wrote in
<11c0rcu$eh8$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>:
> Paul wrote:
>>> What I do, is fire up the Cx file manager in Android, select
>>> "network", then start its internal FTP server. Then reach that
>>> server from Linux with any standard tools in my LAN.
>>> 
>>> It works for me, easy and fast, because I am used to these kind
>>> of tools. And the computer source of the files I'm now
>>> transferring doesn't have BT configured.
>> 
>> Between windows machines and between windows and Linux, the
>> Bluetooth Send worked from either end. It was something that
>> worked earlier in the life of their hand-hewn BT stack.
>> 
>> The Bluetooth TCP/IP stack on the other hand, that wasn't working
>> until relatively recently. And maybe that would be part of what
>> the CX Explorer is doing.
> 
> Just to note the initial problem was the clipboard, but, of
> course, the clipboard can be pasted into a file on most platforms
> other than iOS.

The clipboard can be pasted into a file on iOS. Of course. In fact,
in iOS 27 they made it even easier -- maybe something that already
existed on Android. Don't know. But even before that it was easy.
> 
> On iOS the clipboard can be pasted into a file too, as Nick
> Charles kindly suggested, but you have to do it the Apple way,
> which isn't always intuitive.

Hold and get a menu or, now, just see it above the keyboard. How can
you get easier on a small touch screen?

> Luckily, with Vysor or scrcpy the Android/desktop clipboard is
> shared. 1. Click one is copy the clipboard (on one platform) 2.
> Click two is control-V on the keyboard (on the other platform)
> <https://i.postimg.cc/ZRCTyRx0/scrcpy35.jpg>

That works on iOS to macOS (well, Command+V, which is the norm there
and easier to use on most keyboards, AND Command does not cause
problems with terminals).

> Luckily, with Vysor, even iOS can be two steps with Windows.
> <https://i.postimg.cc/TYvqdxCT/vysor35.jpg>
> But, it's about 20 steps (or so) on iOS if you use the Apple way
> to do it.

On iOS you copy and paste. It "just works".
> 
> If anyone on the Apple ng can get that down to the 2 clicks that
> it should be, that would be an improvement over the kludge way
> Apple does things.

Select. Copy. Move to where you want it. Paste.

Done.



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#203260 — Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY

[Nick Charles' post wasn't (cross)posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10, so
I'm responding via Herbert's quote of Nick's post:]

Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> wrote:
> On 10/26/2026 3:30 AM, Maria Sophia wrote:
> > Nick Charles wrote:
> >> Oh look.  DipshIT is AGAIN jumping thru hoops to do something VERY simple. 
> >> 
> >> Use the fucking  Files app on iOS you dumbass.   Open the files app.   Long
> >> press anywhere, select Paste.  A new text file will be created with your
> >> pasted text from the clipboard.   AGAIN using the files app, connect to
> >> your Windows computer over the Wi-Fi connection.   You DO have a drive
> >> shared on your Windows computer, right?   AGAIN using the Files app,
> >> copy/paste your text file to Windows.
> >> 
> >> Done.    God DAMN, you are stupid.  
> >> 
> >> How long DOES it take you to dream up these absurdly complicated ways to do
> >> easy things?   All in your never ending, life-long goal of Making Apple
> >> Look Bad.
>
> Isn't your suggestion also "absurdly complicated"? Nearly everybody has
> installed WhatsApp (on the phone/tablet and PC), so why not use it to
> send the text to yourself?

  Since some time, Google's Quick Share on Android works with Apple's
AirDrop.

  I don't know if the Windows version of Quick Share also has been
updated to work with Airdrop. So one ('Arlen'?) could try if that works
(Airdrop on iOS to/from Quick Share on Windows).

  That would be 1) a very simple and elegant solution which 2) uses the
local LAN (if so preferred).

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#203261 — Re: How to copy text on the iPad to the Windows PC THE EASY WAY

On Oct 27, 2026 at 11:34 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote in
11bqubn.25g.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net:
> [Nick Charles' post wasn't (cross)posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10, so
> I'm responding via Herbert's quote of Nick's post:]
> 
> Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> wrote:
>> On 10/26/2026 3:30 AM, Maria Sophia wrote:
>>> Nick Charles wrote:
<snip>
>> 
>> Isn't your suggestion also "absurdly complicated"? Nearly everybody
>> has installed WhatsApp (on the phone/tablet and PC), so why not use
>> it to send the text to yourself?
> 
> Since some time, Google's Quick Share on Android works with Apple's
> AirDrop.

Sound vaguely familiar, but I did not know that. Thanks.

> 
> I don't know if the Windows version of Quick Share also has been
> updated to work with Airdrop. So one ('Arlen'?) could try if that
> works (Airdrop on iOS to/from Quick Share on Windows).
> 
> That would be 1) a very simple and elegant solution which 2) uses the
> local LAN (if so preferred).
> 



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#203218

Maria Sophia ha usato la sua tastiera per scrivere :
> What's the easiest way to copy text that is on my iPad to Windows

I didn't read all the thread, so my suggestion can be a double: I use 
whatsapp-web on both devices, pasting the text into my private chat

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#203219

On Oct 25, 2026 at 10:27 AM, Ammammata wrote in
11ble6a$ct87$1@solani.org:
> Maria Sophia ha usato la sua tastiera per scrivere :
>> What's the easiest way to copy text that is on my iPad to Windows
> 
> I didn't read all the thread, so my suggestion can be a double: I use
> whatsapp-web on both devices, pasting the text into my private chat

This might also work... have only read about it and never used it:

https://localsend.org

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#203221

Ammammata wrote:
> Maria Sophia ha usato la sua tastiera per scrivere :
>> What's the easiest way to copy text that is on my iPad to Windows
> 
> I didn't read all the thread, so my suggestion can be a double: I use 
> whatsapp-web on both devices, pasting the text into my private chat

Thanks for being technical and for being purposefully helpful, as that's a
technical response that is SUPPOSED to happen on any os newsgroup.

Your suggestion will work, as would many others which require the Internet,
but no real platform would require the Internet to move a file six inches.

Given it's crazy to put data on the net just to move it six inches, and
given no other platform would require such an absurd requirement, I do
readily admit there may be a simpler solution than the one I ended using.

For example, since the iPad Files app can connect to a computer�s shared
folder over the local network, for a simple local Wi-Fi transfer, we might
share a folder on the Windows PC, then on the iPad open Files > Browse >
... > Connect to Server, enter the PC's local network address (for example,
smb://192.168.1.25), and sign in. Paste the text into an app that can save
a plain-text file in Files, then save it in the shared folder. 

Unfortunately for me, I have no passwords on any of my accounts, so SMB
won't work, but that's a solution which may have been better than LocalSend
turned out to be (given LocalSend had firewall problems on the Windows
side).

The real problem is Apple made MTP brain dead, because on any other
platform, it would never have even come up as an issue to be asked.
 <https://support.apple.com/guide/ipad/transfer-files-ipad-a-storage-device-server-ipad8139864c/ipados>

Also, the Notes problem is simply due to Apple's file system not putting
anything but media into the one folder that the PC can read-only access.
 <https://support.apple.com/en-us/120402>

In summary, the method of using LocalSend is what worked, but anyone who
says an iOS device 'just works' is gonna get an earful from me on that.

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#203225

On Oct 25, 2026 at 1:36 PM, Maria Sophia wrote in
11blp99$nrg$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com:
> Ammammata wrote:
>> Maria Sophia ha usato la sua tastiera per scrivere :
>>> What's the easiest way to copy text that is on my iPad to Windows
>> 
>> I didn't read all the thread, so my suggestion can be a double: I use
>> whatsapp-web on both devices, pasting the text into my private chat
> 
> Thanks for being technical and for being purposefully helpful, as
> that's a technical response that is SUPPOSED to happen on any os
> newsgroup.
> 
> Your suggestion will work, as would many others which require the
> Internet, but no real platform would require the Internet to move a
> file six inches.

iPad and Windows are not "a platform". They are tied to separate
platforms.

> Given it's crazy to put data on the net just to move it six inches,

Not an issue here. Wherever I am, six inches or 600 miles, my pics move
quickly.

> and given no other platform would require such an absurd requirement,
> I do readily admit there may be a simpler solution than the one I
> ended using.

You are again calling iPad and Windows "a platform". They are not.
AirDrop works very well on the iPad / macOS / iOS "platform".

> For example, since the iPad Files app can connect to a computer¢s
> shared folder over the local network, for a simple local Wi-Fi
> transfer, we might share a folder on the Windows PC, then on the iPad
> open Files > Browse > ... > Connect to Server, enter the PC's local
> network address (for example, smb://192.168.1.25), and sign in. Paste
> the text into an app that can save a plain-text file in Files, then
> save it in the shared folder.
> 
> Unfortunately for me, I have no passwords on any of my accounts, so
> SMB won't work, but that's a solution which may have been better than
> LocalSend turned out to be (given LocalSend had firewall problems on
> the Windows side).
> 
> The real problem is Apple made MTP brain dead, because on any other
> platform, it would never have even come up as an issue to be asked.
> <https://support.apple.com/guide/ipad/transfer-files-ipad-a-storage-device-server-ipad8139864c/ipados>
> 
> Also, the Notes problem is simply due to Apple's file system not
> putting anything but media into the one folder that the PC can
> read-only access. <https://support.apple.com/en-us/120402>
> 
> In summary, the method of using LocalSend is what worked, but anyone
> who says an iOS device 'just works' is gonna get an earful from me on
> that.

Why not show a real-world issue. What is something you think I cannot do
on my "platform"?


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#203224

On 10/24/2026 10:11 PM, Maria Sophia wrote:
> Drat. I only have a few minutes and I'm shocked how unintuitive this is.
> 
> What's the easiest way to copy text that is on my iPad to Windows when the
> iPad is on the Wi-Fi network, and the iPad is tethered to the PC by USB?
> 
> Since the iPad is inches from the PC, any path longer than that is absurd.
> 
> I have the text copied to the Apple clipboard, so I just want to paste it
> into a file that I can copy to the PC over the USB or Wi-Fi connection.
> 
> I tried pasting it into a "note" but I've never used Notes. When I opened
> Notes for the first time, Notes asked me to "join the cloud (which, of
> course, I said no to), but even though Notes is open, Notes won't let me
> create a note by pasting the iPad clipboard into it. Why not?
> 
> The Notes square-with-a-pencil icon is grayed out no matter what I try.
> 
> If Notes won't work, what other SIMPLE way is there to transfer a long text
> to the Windows PC which is only six inches away (so using the Internet
> would be absurd).
copy into a draft email and it will appear in drafts on the 2nd machine 
if the same account is present.

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#203227

Zaidy036 wrote:
>> If Notes won't work, what other SIMPLE way is there to transfer a long text
>> to the Windows PC which is only six inches away (so using the Internet
>> would be absurd).
> copy into a draft email and it will appear in drafts on the 2nd machine 
> if the same account is present.

Hi Zaidy,

Thanks for that idea, where below is the response I just gave to Nick
Charles for his helpful suggestion on using Files, instead of Notes.

I know you from the Windows newsgroups, so I was unaware you are on Apple
newsgroups, but it's nice to see you on all of them, as I am, to learn.

While your kind suggestion will work, it doesn't keep everything on the
local LAN since email services (Gmail, Outlook, etc.) sync drafts via the
internet. Even if our devices are on the same local network, the draft
would still need to connect to the email server, wouldn't it?

If so, that violates the number one rule of privacy (unless I run a local
mail server, which even I would say that's a bit to cumbersome just to work
around the fact iOS doesn't interoperate with Windows like Android does.

Here's my response to Nick Charles on the solution that has privacy.

If anyone can improve upon that solution, that would be wonderful, as I'm
always about providing solutions that work between all common platforms.

Nick Charles wrote:
> Oh look.  DipshIT is AGAIN jumping thru hoops to do something VERY simple. 
> 
> Use the fucking  Files app on iOS you dumbass.   Open the files app.   Long
> press anywhere, select Paste.  A new text file will be created with your
> pasted text from the clipboard.   AGAIN using the files app, connect to
> your Windows computer over the Wi-Fi connection.   You DO have a drive
> shared on your Windows computer, right?   AGAIN using the Files app,
> copy/paste your text file to Windows.
> 
> Done.    God DAMN, you are stupid.  
> 
> How long DOES it take you to dream up these absurdly complicated ways to do
> easy things?   All in your never ending, life-long goal of �Making Apple
> Look Bad�.

Hi Nick Charles,

THANK YOU for that wonderful idea, as the record shows I initially tried
Files but I hadn't realized that longpressing in empty space creates the
text.txt file containing whatever was copied into the iOS clipboard.

Given I have never, in all the decades of posting to Usenet, ever disagreed
with any logically defensible statement, I do very much agree with you.

Using Files works much better than using Notes did in my previous tests.

To confirm that you're correct, I did test this and it does work for most:
   1. Long-paste in Files app to create text2.txt  (this works)
   2. Open Files app > connect to Windows PC via SMB
   3. Copy the file to the Windows machine

Here is where it breaks down, for me, which I had stated in this thread.

My Win10 local security policy LimitBlankPasswordUse is enabled, which
restricts network logons using blank-password accounts, which makes sense.

My existing AndroidBackup share grants Everyone read access only, not write
access, but that can be changed. The problem is the password requirement. 

So the Files-app paste suggestion works, as I verified. But the subsequent
SMB transfer is not a ready-to-use bidirectional solution due to the
default password requirement. Weakening that opens up too many holes.

LocalSend avoids that SMB password dependency on the user or guest account.

   1. SMB authentication with a passwordless Windows account does not work
      even when guest is allowed. Even with password-protected sharing
      turned OFF on the Windows side, AFAIK, the Files app's SMB client
      requires a username and password when adding a server.

   2. No Apple software on the PC means no iCloud Drive, no Apple
      Devices app, and no USB file-browsing path from PC to iPad.
      The Files app on iOS cannot reach the PC via iCloud because
      there is no iCloud on the Windows machine. The only default
      network path from iPad Files to Windows is SMB, and as noted
      above, SMBv2 auth without a Windows password won't work.

   3. We explicitly do not want any Internet involvement. Hence
      cloud-based workarounds (OneDrive, Google Drive, Dropbox)
      are off the table. That eliminates the onlypath where iOS
      and Windows interoperate without friction.

So your suggestion is appreciated as it eliminates need for Notes!
But something like the LocalSend method is required, unfortunately.
 a. No accounts, no passwords, no cloud services
 b. Transfers over Wi-Fi LAN only (nothing touches the Internet)
 c. Works iPad <-> Windows with a simple tap-to-send flow
 d. No SMBv2 configuration issues, no authentication dialogs, 
    and no dependency on Windows sharing settings

Never have I disagreed with any person who proposes logically defensible
solutions, so I do agree with you that the Files-app paste step is a real
improvement over the Notes workflow that I was able to get work yesterday.

But, unfortunately, the SMB step is still a friction point that makes
the Files + SMB path fail for a passwordless Windows machine with no Apple
software installed, and I'm not adding a password just to transfer files.

Luckily, LocalSend works on all platforms, stays local, and doesn't require
a password just to transfer a file from one machine on the LAN to another.
Although, I admit openly, sometimes it's flaky (due to firewall issues).

That is not "complicated" since it's simply the easiest way to do it.

Note: Since LocalSend uses a fixed, hardcoded default port (TCP and UDP
port 53317) across all platforms (Windows, iOS, Android, macOS, Linux), if
the Windows-to-iPad transfer fails with a connection error, we may need to
add firewall rules on the Windows PC to open it up for file transfer.

   netsh advfirewall firewall add rule name="LocalSend TCP"
      dir=in action=allow protocol=TCP localport=53317
   netsh advfirewall firewall add rule name="LocalSend UDP"
      dir=in action=allow protocol=UDP localport=53317

After that, the transfer should work bidirectionally over the Wi-Fi LAN	
without any need for OEM accounts or the Internet or, gasp, the cloud.

In summary, thank you for your suggestion, which was helpful as I tried the
Files app but didn't realize the Files app can create a text file directly
from the clipboard, eliminating the need for Notes. I tested it, and I
openly, publicly, and sincerely acknowledge that improvement works on iOS.

Where we differ is the next step. SMBv2/v3 can support Guest access, but
making that work without credentials may require Windows security and
share-permission changes that I am not willing to make just to transfer a
text file. My existing share is read-only for Everyone, and my Windows
policy restricts network logons using blank-password accounts. I am not
claiming SMB without a password is universally impossible but I am saying
it is not a ready-to-use solution under my current setup constraints.

Luckily, LocalSend gives all platforms bidirectional file transfer over the
existing LAN without an SMB share, Windows file-sharing credentials, cloud
accounts, or an Internet transfer. While LocalSend can occasionally need
firewall troubleshooting, that is a manageable one-time setup trade-off.

So, thank you for the iOS Files-app shortcut, which improves the
file-creation step on iOS from the clipboard. One reason I was frustrated
is because on Android, the clipboard is shared between Windows and iOS so I
simply rightclick to copy on Android and rightclick to paste onto Windows
and vice versa. So the fact on Android the clipboard is shared was partly
why the iOS method seems like such a kludge. 

If, on iOS, we could put a file into the iOS DCIM directory, that would
have worked to transfer files, at least for one direction, with Windows.
As we all know, on Android, Windows & the Android filesystem work
bidirectionally, but we're severely restricted when dealing with iOS.

Overall, while the Files+SMB method should work for most Windows:iOS users,
LocalSend remains my preferred transfer method because it meets my actual
requirements without changing my Windows security configuration. 

Thank you very much for your helpful suggestions about iOS Files creating a
a text.txt file containing the clipboard contents when longpressing in
empty space (I was looking for a way to paste the clipboard INTO a file).
-- 
Android, Windows & Linux walk into a bar to discuss their differences.

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