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Re: [v6 PATCH 00/21] x86: Enable User-Mode Instruction Prevention

From Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com>
Newsgroups linux.kernel
Subject Re: [v6 PATCH 00/21] x86: Enable User-Mode Instruction Prevention
Date 2017-03-11 00:50 +0100
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On Fri, 2017-03-10 at 01:01 +0300, Stas Sergeev wrote:
> 09.03.2017 03:46, Ricardo Neri пишет:
> > On Wed, 2017-03-08 at 17:08 +0300, Stas Sergeev wrote:
> >> 08.03.2017 03:32, Ricardo Neri пишет:
> >>> These are the instructions covered by UMIP:
> >>> * SGDT - Store Global Descriptor Table
> >>> * SIDT - Store Interrupt Descriptor Table
> >>> * SLDT - Store Local Descriptor Table
> >>> * SMSW - Store Machine Status Word
> >>> * STR - Store Task Register
> >>>
> >>> This patchset initially treated tasks running in virtual-8086 mode as a
> >>> special case. However, I received clarification that DOSEMU[8] does not
> >>> support applications that use these instructions.
> >> Yes, this is the case.
> >> But at least in the past there was an attempt to
> >> support SLDT as it is used by an ancient pharlap
> >> DOS extender (currently unsupported by dosemu1/2).
> >> So how difficult would it be to add an optional
> >> possibility of delivering such SIGSEGV to userspace
> >> so that the kernel's dummy emulation can be overridden?
> > I suppose a umip=noemulation kernel parameter could be added in this
> > case.
> Why?
> It doesn't need to be global: the app should be
> able to change that on its own. Note that no app currently
> requires this, so its just for the future, and in the
> future the app can start using the new API for this,
> if you provide one.

Right, I missed this detail. Then, yes the API should allow only one app
to relay the SIGSEGV.
> 
> 
> >> It doesn't need to be a matter of this particular
> >> patch set, i.e. this proposal should not trigger a
> >> v7 resend of all 21 patches. :) But it would be useful
> >> for the future development of dosemu2.
> > Would dosemu2 use 32-bit processes in order to keep segmentation? If it
> > could use 64-bit processes, emulation is not used in this case and the
> > SIGSEGV is delivered to user space.
> It does use the mix: 64bit process but some segments
> are 32bit for DOS code.

Do you mean that dosemu2 will start as a 64-bit process and will jump to
32-bit code segments? My emulation code should work in this case as it
will use segmentation in 32-bit code descriptors. Is there anything else
needed?

Thanks and BR,
Ricardo

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[v6 PATCH 00/21] x86: Enable User-Mode Instruction Prevention Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com> - 2017-03-08 01:40 +0100
  [v6 PATCH 09/21] x86/insn-eval: Add functions to get default operand and address sizes Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com> - 2017-03-08 01:40 +0100
  [v6 PATCH 03/21] x86/mpx: Do not use R/EBP as base in the SIB byte with Mod = 0 Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com> - 2017-03-08 01:40 +0100
  [v6 PATCH 08/21] x86/insn-eval: Add utility function to get segment descriptor base address Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com> - 2017-03-08 01:40 +0100
  [v6 PATCH 15/21] x86/mm: Relocate page fault error codes to traps.h Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com> - 2017-03-08 01:40 +0100
    Re: [v6 PATCH 15/21] x86/mm: Relocate page fault error codes to traps.h Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2017-03-08 17:10 +0100
  [v6 PATCH 11/21] insn/eval: Incorporate segment base in address computation Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com> - 2017-03-08 01:40 +0100
  [v6 PATCH 16/21] x86/cpufeature: Add User-Mode Instruction Prevention definitions Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com> - 2017-03-08 01:40 +0100
  [v6 PATCH 21/21] selftests/x86: Add tests for User-Mode Instruction Prevention Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com> - 2017-03-08 01:40 +0100
    Re: [v6 PATCH 21/21] selftests/x86: Add tests for User-Mode  Instruction Prevention Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2017-03-08 17:30 +0100
      Re: [v6 PATCH 21/21] selftests/x86: Add tests for User-Mode  Instruction Prevention Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com> - 2017-03-11 00:40 +0100
  [v6 PATCH 01/21] x86/mpx: Use signed variables to compute effective addresses Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com> - 2017-03-08 01:40 +0100
  [v6 PATCH 20/21] x86: Enable User-Mode Instruction Prevention Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com> - 2017-03-08 01:50 +0100
  [v6 PATCH 13/21] x86/insn-eval: Add support to resolve 16-bit addressing encodings Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com> - 2017-03-08 01:50 +0100
  [v6 PATCH 17/21] x86: Add emulation code for UMIP instructions Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com> - 2017-03-08 01:50 +0100
  [v6 PATCH 05/21] x86/insn-eval: Add utility functions to get register offsets Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com> - 2017-03-08 01:50 +0100
  [v6 PATCH 12/21] x86/insn: Support both signed 32-bit and 64-bit effective addresses Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com> - 2017-03-08 01:50 +0100
  [v6 PATCH 07/21] x86/insn-eval: Add utility function to get segment descriptor Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com> - 2017-03-08 01:50 +0100
  [v6 PATCH 18/21] x86/umip: Force a page fault when unable to copy emulated result to user Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com> - 2017-03-08 01:50 +0100
  [v6 PATCH 14/21] x86/insn-eval: Add wrapper function for 16-bit and 32-bit address encodings Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com> - 2017-03-08 01:50 +0100
  [v6 PATCH 06/21] x86/insn-eval: Add utility functions to get segment selector Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com> - 2017-03-08 02:00 +0100
  [v6 PATCH 02/21] x86/mpx: Do not use SIB index if index points to R/ESP Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com> - 2017-03-08 02:00 +0100
  [v6 PATCH 19/21] x86/traps: Fixup general protection faults caused by UMIP Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com> - 2017-03-08 02:00 +0100
    Re: [v6 PATCH 19/21] x86/traps: Fixup general protection faults  caused by UMIP Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2017-03-08 17:00 +0100
  [v6 PATCH 10/21] x86/insn-eval: Do not use R/EBP as base if mod in ModRM is zero Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com> - 2017-03-08 02:10 +0100
  [v6 PATCH 04/21] x86/mpx, x86/insn: Relocate insn util functions to a new insn-kernel Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com> - 2017-03-08 04:50 +0100
  Re: [v6 PATCH 00/21] x86: Enable User-Mode Instruction Prevention Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2017-03-08 15:30 +0100
    Re: [v6 PATCH 00/21] x86: Enable User-Mode Instruction Prevention Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2017-03-08 18:00 +0100
      Re: [v6 PATCH 00/21] x86: Enable User-Mode Instruction Prevention Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com> - 2017-03-09 02:20 +0100
        Re: [v6 PATCH 00/21] x86: Enable User-Mode Instruction Prevention Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2017-03-09 23:10 +0100
        Re: [v6 PATCH 00/21] x86: Enable User-Mode Instruction Prevention Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> - 2017-03-10 03:50 +0100
          Re: [v6 PATCH 00/21] x86: Enable User-Mode Instruction Prevention Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2017-03-10 22:00 +0100
            Re: [v6 PATCH 00/21] x86: Enable User-Mode Instruction Prevention Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2017-03-10 22:10 +0100
              Re: [v6 PATCH 00/21] x86: Enable User-Mode Instruction Prevention Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2017-03-10 22:40 +0100
    Re: [v6 PATCH 00/21] x86: Enable User-Mode Instruction Prevention Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2017-03-08 18:20 +0100
      Re: [v6 PATCH 00/21] x86: Enable User-Mode Instruction Prevention Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com> - 2017-03-09 02:20 +0100
        Re: [v6 PATCH 00/21] x86: Enable User-Mode Instruction Prevention Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2017-03-09 23:20 +0100
          Re: [v6 PATCH 00/21] x86: Enable User-Mode Instruction Prevention Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2017-03-10 03:50 +0100
            Re: [v6 PATCH 00/21] x86: Enable User-Mode Instruction Prevention Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2017-03-10 12:40 +0100
              Re: [v6 PATCH 00/21] x86: Enable User-Mode Instruction Prevention Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2017-03-10 15:20 +0100
                Re: [v6 PATCH 00/21] x86: Enable User-Mode Instruction Prevention Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com> - 2017-03-11 02:30 +0100
              Re: [v6 PATCH 00/21] x86: Enable User-Mode Instruction Prevention Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com> - 2017-03-11 01:10 +0100
            Re: [v6 PATCH 00/21] x86: Enable User-Mode Instruction Prevention Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com> - 2017-03-11 01:00 +0100
    Re: [v6 PATCH 00/21] x86: Enable User-Mode Instruction Prevention Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2017-03-08 23:30 +0100
    Re: [v6 PATCH 00/21] x86: Enable User-Mode Instruction Prevention Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2017-03-08 23:50 +0100
    Re: [v6 PATCH 00/21] x86: Enable User-Mode Instruction Prevention Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com> - 2017-03-09 02:50 +0100
      Re: [v6 PATCH 00/21] x86: Enable User-Mode Instruction Prevention Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2017-03-10 02:30 +0100
        Re: [v6 PATCH 00/21] x86: Enable User-Mode Instruction Prevention Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com> - 2017-03-11 00:50 +0100
          Re: [v6 PATCH 00/21] x86: Enable User-Mode Instruction Prevention Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru> - 2017-03-11 01:00 +0100
            Re: [v6 PATCH 00/21] x86: Enable User-Mode Instruction Prevention Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com> - 2017-03-11 01:20 +0100
  Re: [v6 PATCH 00/21] x86: Enable User-Mode Instruction Prevention Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2017-03-08 17:20 +0100

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