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Re: [PATCHv2 1/3] x86/mm: Provide pmdp_establish() helper

From "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>
Newsgroups linux.kernel
Subject Re: [PATCHv2 1/3] x86/mm: Provide pmdp_establish() helper
Date 2017-06-20 00:00 +0200
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On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 06:09:12PM +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 07:00:05PM +0300, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 04:22:29PM +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 05:52:22PM +0300, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> > > > We need an atomic way to setup pmd page table entry, avoiding races with
> > > > CPU setting dirty/accessed bits. This is required to implement
> > > > pmdp_invalidate() that doesn't loose these bits.
> > > > 
> > > > On PAE we have to use cmpxchg8b as we cannot assume what is value of new pmd and
> > > > setting it up half-by-half can expose broken corrupted entry to CPU.
> > > > 
> > > > Signed-off-by: Kirill A. Shutemov <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
> > > > Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
> > > > Cc: H. Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>
> > > > Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
> > > 
> > > I'll look at this from the arm64 perspective. It would be good if we can
> > > have a generic atomic implementation based on cmpxchg64 but I need to
> > > look at the details first.
> > 
> > Unfortunately, I'm not sure it's possbile.
> > 
> > The format of a page table is defined per-arch. We cannot assume much about
> > it in generic code.
> > 
> > I guess we could make it compile by casting to 'unsigned long', but is it
> > useful?
> > Every architecture manintainer still has to validate that this assumption
> > is valid for the architecture.
> 
> You are right, not much gained in doing this.
> 
> Maybe a stupid question but can we not implement pmdp_invalidate() with
> something like pmdp_get_and_clear() (usually reusing the ptep_*
> equivalent). Or pmdp_clear_flush() (again, reusing ptep_clear_flush())?
> 
> In my quick grep on pmdp_invalidate, it seems to be followed by
> set_pmd_at() or pmd_populate() already and the *pmd value after
> mknotpresent isn't any different from 0 to the hardware (at least on
> ARM). That's unless Linux expects to see some non-zero value here if
> walking the page tables on another CPU.

The whole reason to have pmdp_invalidate() in first place is to never make
pmd clear in the middle. Otherwise we will get race with MADV_DONTNEED.
See ced108037c2a for an example of such race.

-- 
 Kirill A. Shutemov

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[PATCHv2 1/3] x86/mm: Provide pmdp_establish() helper "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com> - 2017-06-15 17:00 +0200
  Re: [PATCHv2 1/3] x86/mm: Provide pmdp_establish() helper Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com> - 2017-06-16 15:40 +0200
    Re: [PATCHv2 1/3] x86/mm: Provide pmdp_establish() helper "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name> - 2017-06-19 14:50 +0200
  Re: [PATCHv2 1/3] x86/mm: Provide pmdp_establish() helper Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com> - 2017-06-19 07:50 +0200
    Re: [PATCHv2 1/3] x86/mm: Provide pmdp_establish() helper "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name> - 2017-06-19 14:50 +0200
      Re: [PATCHv2 1/3] x86/mm: Provide pmdp_establish() helper Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com> - 2017-06-19 15:10 +0200
  Re: [PATCHv2 1/3] x86/mm: Provide pmdp_establish() helper Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com> - 2017-06-19 17:30 +0200
    Re: [PATCHv2 1/3] x86/mm: Provide pmdp_establish() helper "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name> - 2017-06-19 18:10 +0200
      Re: [PATCHv2 1/3] x86/mm: Provide pmdp_establish() helper Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com> - 2017-06-19 19:10 +0200
        Re: [PATCHv2 1/3] x86/mm: Provide pmdp_establish() helper "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name> - 2017-06-20 00:00 +0200
          Re: [PATCHv2 1/3] x86/mm: Provide pmdp_establish() helper Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com> - 2017-06-20 18:00 +0200
            Re: [PATCHv2 1/3] x86/mm: Provide pmdp_establish() helper "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name> - 2017-06-21 12:00 +0200
              Re: [PATCHv2 1/3] x86/mm: Provide pmdp_establish() helper Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com> - 2017-06-21 12:50 +0200
              Re: [PATCHv2 1/3] x86/mm: Provide pmdp_establish() helper Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com> - 2017-06-21 13:30 +0200
                Re: [PATCHv2 1/3] x86/mm: Provide pmdp_establish() helper "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name> - 2017-06-21 14:10 +0200
                Re: [PATCHv2 1/3] x86/mm: Provide pmdp_establish() helper Vineet Gupta <Vineet.Gupta1@synopsys.com> - 2017-06-21 18:30 +0200
                Re: [PATCHv2 1/3] x86/mm: Provide pmdp_establish() helper "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name> - 2017-06-21 19:20 +0200
                Re: [PATCHv2 1/3] x86/mm: Provide pmdp_establish() helper Vineet Gupta <Vineet.Gupta1@synopsys.com> - 2017-06-21 19:30 +0200
                Re: [PATCHv2 1/3] x86/mm: Provide pmdp_establish() helper "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name> - 2017-06-21 20:00 +0200
  Re: [PATCHv2 1/3] x86/mm: Provide pmdp_establish() helper Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com> - 2017-06-19 19:20 +0200
    Re: [PATCHv2 1/3] x86/mm: Provide pmdp_establish() helper "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name> - 2017-06-20 00:00 +0200

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