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Re: [PATCHv2 1/3] x86/mm: Provide pmdp_establish() helper

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On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 04:54:38PM +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 12:52:10AM +0300, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 06:09:12PM +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 07:00:05PM +0300, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 04:22:29PM +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 05:52:22PM +0300, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> > > > > > We need an atomic way to setup pmd page table entry, avoiding races with
> > > > > > CPU setting dirty/accessed bits. This is required to implement
> > > > > > pmdp_invalidate() that doesn't loose these bits.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On PAE we have to use cmpxchg8b as we cannot assume what is value of new pmd and
> > > > > > setting it up half-by-half can expose broken corrupted entry to CPU.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Kirill A. Shutemov <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
> > > > > > Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
> > > > > > Cc: H. Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>
> > > > > > Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
> > > > > 
> > > > > I'll look at this from the arm64 perspective. It would be good if we can
> > > > > have a generic atomic implementation based on cmpxchg64 but I need to
> > > > > look at the details first.
> > > > 
> > > > Unfortunately, I'm not sure it's possbile.
> > > > 
> > > > The format of a page table is defined per-arch. We cannot assume much about
> > > > it in generic code.
> > > > 
> > > > I guess we could make it compile by casting to 'unsigned long', but is it
> > > > useful?
> > > > Every architecture manintainer still has to validate that this assumption
> > > > is valid for the architecture.
> > > 
> > > You are right, not much gained in doing this.
> > > 
> > > Maybe a stupid question but can we not implement pmdp_invalidate() with
> > > something like pmdp_get_and_clear() (usually reusing the ptep_*
> > > equivalent). Or pmdp_clear_flush() (again, reusing ptep_clear_flush())?
> > > 
> > > In my quick grep on pmdp_invalidate, it seems to be followed by
> > > set_pmd_at() or pmd_populate() already and the *pmd value after
> > > mknotpresent isn't any different from 0 to the hardware (at least on
> > > ARM). That's unless Linux expects to see some non-zero value here if
> > > walking the page tables on another CPU.
> > 
> > The whole reason to have pmdp_invalidate() in first place is to never make
> > pmd clear in the middle. Otherwise we will get race with MADV_DONTNEED.
> > See ced108037c2a for an example of such race.
> 
> Thanks for the explanation. So you basically just want to set a !present
> and !none pmd. I noticed that with your proposed pmdp_invalidate(),
> pmdp_establish(pmd_mknotpresent(*pmdp)) could set a stale *pmdp (with
> the present bit cleared) temporarily until updated with what
> pmdp_establish() returned. Is there a risk of racing with other parts of
> the kernel? I guess not since the pmd is !present.

I don't see such risk. Other parts of the kernel would see non-present pmd
and will have to take ptl to do anything meaningful with it.
pmdp_invalidate() caller has to hold ptl too, so the race is excluded.

> For arm64, I don't see the point of a cmpxchg, so something like below
> would do (it needs proper testing though):

Right. cmpxchg is required for x86 PAE, as it has sizeof(pmd_t) >
sizeof(long). We don't have 8-byte xchg() there.

Thanks, for the patch. I assume, I can use your signed-off-by, right?

Any chance you could help me with arm too?

-- 
 Kirill A. Shutemov

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Re: [PATCHv2 1/3] x86/mm: Provide pmdp_establish() helper Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com> - 2017-06-20 18:00 +0200
  Re: [PATCHv2 1/3] x86/mm: Provide pmdp_establish() helper "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name> - 2017-06-21 12:00 +0200
    Re: [PATCHv2 1/3] x86/mm: Provide pmdp_establish() helper Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com> - 2017-06-21 12:50 +0200
    Re: [PATCHv2 1/3] x86/mm: Provide pmdp_establish() helper Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com> - 2017-06-21 13:30 +0200
      Re: [PATCHv2 1/3] x86/mm: Provide pmdp_establish() helper "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name> - 2017-06-21 14:10 +0200
      Re: [PATCHv2 1/3] x86/mm: Provide pmdp_establish() helper Vineet Gupta <Vineet.Gupta1@synopsys.com> - 2017-06-21 18:30 +0200
        Re: [PATCHv2 1/3] x86/mm: Provide pmdp_establish() helper "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name> - 2017-06-21 19:20 +0200
          Re: [PATCHv2 1/3] x86/mm: Provide pmdp_establish() helper Vineet Gupta <Vineet.Gupta1@synopsys.com> - 2017-06-21 19:30 +0200
            Re: [PATCHv2 1/3] x86/mm: Provide pmdp_establish() helper "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name> - 2017-06-21 20:00 +0200

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