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Re: [PATCH] proc/sysctl: drop unregistered stale dentries as soon as possible

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On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 6:53 AM, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 08, 2017 at 01:48:04PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
>
>> > This patch detects stale dentry in proc_sys_compare and pretends that
>> > it has matching name - revalidation will kill it and lookup restarts.
>> > As a result each stale dentry will be seen only once and will not
>> > contaminate hash endlessly.
>> >
>>
>> What are "stale" dentries?  Unused dentries?  If so, why doesn't the
>> creation of a new dentry immediately invalidate the old dentry with a
>> matching path?  What do other filesystems do to prevent this issue?
>
> The whole point is that it's *NOT* a matching path.  Currently ->d_compare()
> for /proc/sys tries to make sure that sysctl getting unregistered means
> that no extra references will be added to dentries of the stuff we are
> trying to kick out.  If it's getting unregistered, ->d_compare() won't be
> seeing them and from that point on dentry refcount can only go down -
> no new lookups will increase it.
>
> This kludge tries to have _any_ lookup in the same hash chain pick the
> first dentry of such stuff, no matter what name/parent it has.  Then
> it relies upon ->d_revalidate() refusing to accept that sucker, so that
> it gets unhashed and we (hopefully) repeat the lookup.
>
> This is complete garbage.  Lookups won't be repeated indefinitely -
> if there are several such dentries in the hash chain we search, syscall
> will end up failing with ESTALE on thus buggered ->d_compare(), even though
> none of those dentries are anywhere near the path we are trying to resolve.
> No other filesystem attempts that kind of insanity, and for a good reason.
>
> The problem it tries to address is that sysctl unregistration doesn't
> unhash the now-stale dentries.  Before the unregistration we kept them
> even with refcount 0, until memory pressure evicts the suckers.  After
> unregistration we make sure that refcount reaching 0 will cause the
> instant eviction.  The problem is with the case when they had refcount 0
> to start with.  Then the eviction rule does not get triggered - it would have
> happened when dropping the last reference, but we don't have any.
>
> The kludge proposed in that patch is nowhere near being a sane way to deal
> with that.  Having ->d_compare() notice such dentries and quietly kick
> them out would be borderline saner, but
>         * it's a potentially blocking operation and ->d_compare() is called
> in non-blocking contexts, including deep under rcu_read_lock().
>         * it's done when walking a hash chain; having that chain modified
> by ->d_compare() itself would require some modifications of callers and
> those are very hot codepaths.
>
> I agree that the problem is real, but this is no way to deal with it.
> What we want is something along the lines of d_prune_aliases() done for all
> inodes corresponding to given sysctl.  Done just before erase_header()
> in start_unregistering().  That would require maintaining the list of
> inodes in question (e.g. anchored in ctl_table_header) and a bit of care
> in traversing it (use of igrab(), etc.)
>
> In the current form - NAK.  Sorry.

Ok, Thank you. I've expected that this fix isn't sane,

Maybe we could minimize changes for now. For example: keep these
stale dentries in memory but silently unhash them in ->d_compare().
Memory processure and reclaimer will kill them later.

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[PATCH] proc/sysctl: drop unregistered stale dentries as soon as  possible Konstantin Khlebnikov <khlebnikov@yandex-team.ru> - 2017-02-08 12:00 +0100
  Re: [PATCH] proc/sysctl: drop unregistered stale dentries as soon  as possible Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> - 2017-02-08 22:50 +0100
    Re: [PATCH] proc/sysctl: drop unregistered stale dentries as soon as  possible Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> - 2017-02-09 05:00 +0100
      Re: [PATCH] proc/sysctl: drop unregistered stale dentries as soon as possible Konstantin Khlebnikov <koct9i@gmail.com> - 2017-02-09 08:40 +0100
        Re: [PATCH] proc/sysctl: drop unregistered stale dentries as soon as  possible Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> - 2017-02-09 10:10 +0100
          [PATCH] proc/sysctl: prune stale dentries during unregistering Konstantin Khlebnikov <khlebnikov@yandex-team.ru> - 2017-02-10 08:40 +0100
            Re: [PATCH] proc/sysctl: prune stale dentries during unregistering Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> - 2017-02-10 08:50 +0100
              Re: [PATCH] proc/sysctl: prune stale dentries during unregistering Konstantin Khlebnikov <khlebnikov@yandex-team.ru> - 2017-02-10 09:00 +0100
                Re: [PATCH] proc/sysctl: prune stale dentries during unregistering ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman) - 2017-02-13 11:00 +0100

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