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Re: NVMe vs DMA addressing limitations

From Arnd Bergmann <arnd@linaro.org>
Newsgroups linux.kernel
Subject Re: NVMe vs DMA addressing limitations
Date 2017-01-10 16:10 +0100
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On Tuesday, January 10, 2017 3:48:39 PM CET Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 12:01:05PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > Another workaround me might need is to limit amount of concurrent DMA
> > in the NVMe driver based on some platform quirk. The way that NVMe works,
> > it can have very large amounts of data that is concurrently mapped into
> > the device.
> 
> That's not really just NVMe - other storage and network controllers also
> can DMA map giant amounts of memory.  There are a couple aspects to it:
> 
>  - dma coherent memoery - right now NVMe doesn't use too much of it,
>    but upcoming low-end NVMe controllers will soon start to require
>    fairl large amounts of it for the host memory buffer feature that
>    allows for DRAM-less controller designs.  As an interesting quirk
>    that is memory only used by the PCIe devices, and never accessed
>    by the Linux host at all.

Right, that is going to become interesting, as some platforms are
very limited with their coherent allocations.

>  - size vs number of the dynamic mapping.  We probably want the dma_ops
>    specify a maximum mapping size for a given device.  As long as we
>    can make progress with a few mappings swiotlb / the iommu can just
>    fail mapping and the driver will propagate that to the block layer
>    that throttles I/O.

Good idea.

	Arnd

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Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dma_mapping: allow PCI host driver to limit  DMA mask Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com> - 2017-01-03 19:50 +0100
  Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dma_mapping: allow PCI host driver to limit  DMA mask Nikita Yushchenko <nikita.yoush@cogentembedded.com> - 2017-01-03 20:10 +0100
    Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dma_mapping: allow PCI host driver to limit  DMA mask Grygorii Strashko <grygorii.strashko@ti.com> - 2017-01-03 21:20 +0100
      Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dma_mapping: allow PCI host driver to limit  DMA mask Nikita Yushchenko <nikita.yoush@cogentembedded.com> - 2017-01-03 21:40 +0100
  Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dma_mapping: allow PCI host driver to limit DMA mask Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> - 2017-01-04 00:20 +0100
    Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dma_mapping: allow PCI host driver to limit  DMA mask Nikita Yushchenko <nikita.yoush@cogentembedded.com> - 2017-01-04 07:40 +0100
      Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dma_mapping: allow PCI host driver to limit DMA mask Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> - 2017-01-04 14:30 +0100
        Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dma_mapping: allow PCI host driver to limit  DMA mask Nikita Yushchenko <nikita.yoush@cogentembedded.com> - 2017-01-04 15:40 +0100
          Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dma_mapping: allow PCI host driver to limit DMA mask Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> - 2017-01-04 15:50 +0100
            Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dma_mapping: allow PCI host driver to limit  DMA mask Nikita Yushchenko <nikita.yoush@cogentembedded.com> - 2017-01-04 16:40 +0100
              Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dma_mapping: allow PCI host driver to limit DMA mask Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> - 2017-01-06 12:20 +0100
                Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dma_mapping: allow PCI host driver to limit  DMA mask Nikita Yushchenko <nikita.yoush@cogentembedded.com> - 2017-01-06 14:50 +0100
                [PATCH] arm64: do not set dma masks that device connection can't handle Nikita Yushchenko <nikita.yoush@cogentembedded.com> - 2017-01-06 15:40 +0100
                [PATCH] arm64: do not set dma masks that device connection can't handle Nikita Yushchenko <nikita.yoush@cogentembedded.com> - 2017-01-06 16:00 +0100
                Re: [PATCH] arm64: do not set dma masks that device connection can't  handle Sergei Shtylyov <sergei.shtylyov@cogentembedded.com> - 2017-01-08 08:20 +0100
                Re: [PATCH] arm64: do not set dma masks that device connection can't  handle Nikita Yushchenko <nikita.yoush@cogentembedded.com> - 2017-01-09 08:00 +0100
                Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dma_mapping: allow PCI host driver to limit DMA mask Arnd Bergmann <arnd@linaro.org> - 2017-01-09 15:10 +0100
                Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dma_mapping: allow PCI host driver to limit  DMA mask Nikita Yushchenko <nikita.yoush@cogentembedded.com> - 2017-01-09 21:40 +0100
                Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dma_mapping: allow PCI host driver to limit         DMA mask Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> - 2017-01-09 22:00 +0100
                NVMe vs DMA addressing limitations Nikita Yushchenko <nikita.yoush@cogentembedded.com> - 2017-01-10 07:50 +0100
                Re: NVMe vs DMA addressing limitations Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> - 2017-01-10 08:10 +0100
                Re: NVMe vs DMA addressing limitations Nikita Yushchenko <nikita.yoush@cogentembedded.com> - 2017-01-10 08:40 +0100
                Re: NVMe vs DMA addressing limitations Arnd Bergmann <arnd@linaro.org> - 2017-01-10 12:10 +0100
                Re: NVMe vs DMA addressing limitations Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> - 2017-01-10 15:50 +0100
                Re: NVMe vs DMA addressing limitations Arnd Bergmann <arnd@linaro.org> - 2017-01-10 16:10 +0100
                Re: NVMe vs DMA addressing limitations Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me> - 2017-01-12 11:10 +0100
                Re: NVMe vs DMA addressing limitations Arnd Bergmann <arnd@linaro.org> - 2017-01-12 13:00 +0100
                Re: NVMe vs DMA addressing limitations Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> - 2017-01-12 14:20 +0100
                Re: NVMe vs DMA addressing limitations Arnd Bergmann <arnd@linaro.org> - 2017-01-10 12:00 +0100
                Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dma_mapping: allow PCI host driver to limit DMA mask Arnd Bergmann <arnd@linaro.org> - 2017-01-10 11:50 +0100
                Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dma_mapping: allow PCI host driver to limit         DMA mask Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> - 2017-01-10 15:50 +0100
                Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dma_mapping: allow PCI host driver to limit DMA mask Arnd Bergmann <arnd@linaro.org> - 2017-01-10 16:10 +0100

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