Re: NVMe vs DMA addressing limitations

From	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@linaro.org>
Newsgroups	linux.kernel
Subject	Re: NVMe vs DMA addressing limitations
Date	2017-01-10 12:00 +0100
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On Tuesday, January 10, 2017 8:07:20 AM CET Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 09:47:21AM +0300, Nikita Yushchenko wrote:
> > I'm now working with HW that:
> > - is now way "low end" or "obsolete", it has 4G of RAM and 8 CPU cores,
> > and is being manufactured and developed,
> > - has 75% of it's RAM located beyond first 4G of address space,
> > - can't physically handle incoming PCIe transactions addressed to memory
> > beyond 4G.
> 
> It might not be low end or obselete, but it's absolutely braindead.
> Your I/O performance will suffer badly for the life of the platform
> because someone tries to save 2 cents, and there is not much we can do
> about it.

Unfortunately it is a common problem for arm64 chips that were designed
by taking a 32-bit SoC and replacing the CPU core. The swiotlb is the
right workaround for this, and I think we all agree that we should
just make it work correctly.

	Arnd

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Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dma_mapping: allow PCI host driver to limit  DMA mask Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com> - 2017-01-03 19:50 +0100
  Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dma_mapping: allow PCI host driver to limit  DMA mask Nikita Yushchenko <nikita.yoush@cogentembedded.com> - 2017-01-03 20:10 +0100
    Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dma_mapping: allow PCI host driver to limit  DMA mask Grygorii Strashko <grygorii.strashko@ti.com> - 2017-01-03 21:20 +0100
      Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dma_mapping: allow PCI host driver to limit  DMA mask Nikita Yushchenko <nikita.yoush@cogentembedded.com> - 2017-01-03 21:40 +0100
  Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dma_mapping: allow PCI host driver to limit DMA mask Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> - 2017-01-04 00:20 +0100
    Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dma_mapping: allow PCI host driver to limit  DMA mask Nikita Yushchenko <nikita.yoush@cogentembedded.com> - 2017-01-04 07:40 +0100
      Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dma_mapping: allow PCI host driver to limit DMA mask Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> - 2017-01-04 14:30 +0100
        Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dma_mapping: allow PCI host driver to limit  DMA mask Nikita Yushchenko <nikita.yoush@cogentembedded.com> - 2017-01-04 15:40 +0100
          Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dma_mapping: allow PCI host driver to limit DMA mask Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> - 2017-01-04 15:50 +0100
            Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dma_mapping: allow PCI host driver to limit  DMA mask Nikita Yushchenko <nikita.yoush@cogentembedded.com> - 2017-01-04 16:40 +0100
              Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dma_mapping: allow PCI host driver to limit DMA mask Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> - 2017-01-06 12:20 +0100
                Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dma_mapping: allow PCI host driver to limit  DMA mask Nikita Yushchenko <nikita.yoush@cogentembedded.com> - 2017-01-06 14:50 +0100
                [PATCH] arm64: do not set dma masks that device connection can't handle Nikita Yushchenko <nikita.yoush@cogentembedded.com> - 2017-01-06 15:40 +0100
                [PATCH] arm64: do not set dma masks that device connection can't handle Nikita Yushchenko <nikita.yoush@cogentembedded.com> - 2017-01-06 16:00 +0100
                Re: [PATCH] arm64: do not set dma masks that device connection can't  handle Sergei Shtylyov <sergei.shtylyov@cogentembedded.com> - 2017-01-08 08:20 +0100
                Re: [PATCH] arm64: do not set dma masks that device connection can't  handle Nikita Yushchenko <nikita.yoush@cogentembedded.com> - 2017-01-09 08:00 +0100
                Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dma_mapping: allow PCI host driver to limit DMA mask Arnd Bergmann <arnd@linaro.org> - 2017-01-09 15:10 +0100
                Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dma_mapping: allow PCI host driver to limit  DMA mask Nikita Yushchenko <nikita.yoush@cogentembedded.com> - 2017-01-09 21:40 +0100
                Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dma_mapping: allow PCI host driver to limit         DMA mask Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> - 2017-01-09 22:00 +0100
                NVMe vs DMA addressing limitations Nikita Yushchenko <nikita.yoush@cogentembedded.com> - 2017-01-10 07:50 +0100
                Re: NVMe vs DMA addressing limitations Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> - 2017-01-10 08:10 +0100
                Re: NVMe vs DMA addressing limitations Nikita Yushchenko <nikita.yoush@cogentembedded.com> - 2017-01-10 08:40 +0100
                Re: NVMe vs DMA addressing limitations Arnd Bergmann <arnd@linaro.org> - 2017-01-10 12:10 +0100
                Re: NVMe vs DMA addressing limitations Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> - 2017-01-10 15:50 +0100
                Re: NVMe vs DMA addressing limitations Arnd Bergmann <arnd@linaro.org> - 2017-01-10 16:10 +0100
                Re: NVMe vs DMA addressing limitations Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me> - 2017-01-12 11:10 +0100
                Re: NVMe vs DMA addressing limitations Arnd Bergmann <arnd@linaro.org> - 2017-01-12 13:00 +0100
                Re: NVMe vs DMA addressing limitations Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> - 2017-01-12 14:20 +0100
                Re: NVMe vs DMA addressing limitations Arnd Bergmann <arnd@linaro.org> - 2017-01-10 12:00 +0100
                Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dma_mapping: allow PCI host driver to limit DMA mask Arnd Bergmann <arnd@linaro.org> - 2017-01-10 11:50 +0100
                Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dma_mapping: allow PCI host driver to limit         DMA mask Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> - 2017-01-10 15:50 +0100
                Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dma_mapping: allow PCI host driver to limit DMA mask Arnd Bergmann <arnd@linaro.org> - 2017-01-10 16:10 +0100

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