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Re: [PATCH v2] printk: Add kernel parameter to disable writes to /dev/kmsg

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On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 12:28:30 -0700
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> >
> > Again, please default enable and use an easier name to toggle this.
> > Userspace flooding this with junk is really insane.  
> 
> I think it should be a tristate with "yes/no/ratelimit", and let's
> default to ratelimit.

Hmm, as this is currently decided on opening, it would be an
interesting task, and more complex. But I could look into it.

> 
> And I also suspect that we would be better off not returning an error
> (which could make user space decide to break, either intentionally or
> just because some people think that "error handling is important"
> means that you should abort on all errors you don't recognize), but
> just silently drop the write. IOW, the "no" would just be a rather
> extreme form of rate-limiting, while "yes" would just be the other
> extreme.
> 

Actually, systemd currently does the right thing when this errors on
opening. It finds another way to do logging. At least on my boxes that
I tested (Debian testing and Fedora 18). If it doesn't error out,
systemd may decided to continue to use this as its means for general
purpose logging, and now I lose out on the logging of userspace, as
everything that systemd does is silently dropped.

-- Steve

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[PATCH v2] printk: Add kernel parameter to disable writes to  /dev/kmsg Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> - 2016-04-25 21:00 +0200
  Re: [PATCH v2] printk: Add kernel parameter to disable writes to  /dev/kmsg Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2016-04-25 21:10 +0200
    Re: [PATCH v2] printk: Add kernel parameter to disable writes to  /dev/kmsg Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> - 2016-04-25 21:20 +0200
      Re: [PATCH v2] printk: Add kernel parameter to disable writes to  /dev/kmsg Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2016-04-25 21:30 +0200
        Re: [PATCH v2] printk: Add kernel parameter to disable writes to  /dev/kmsg Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> - 2016-04-25 21:50 +0200
        Re: [PATCH v2] printk: Add kernel parameter to disable writes to  /dev/kmsg Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> - 2016-04-25 22:00 +0200
          Re: [PATCH v2] printk: Add kernel parameter to disable writes to  /dev/kmsg Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> - 2016-04-25 22:10 +0200
            Re: [PATCH v2] printk: Add kernel parameter to disable writes to /dev/kmsg Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> - 2016-04-25 22:30 +0200
              Re: [PATCH v2] printk: Add kernel parameter to disable writes to  /dev/kmsg Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> - 2016-04-25 22:40 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v2] printk: Add kernel parameter to disable writes to /dev/kmsg Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> - 2016-04-25 22:50 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v2] printk: Add kernel parameter to disable writes to  /dev/kmsg Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> - 2016-04-25 23:30 +0200
              Re: [PATCH v2] printk: Add kernel parameter to disable writes to  /dev/kmsg Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de> - 2016-04-26 13:10 +0200
          Re: [PATCH v2] printk: Add kernel parameter to disable writes to  /dev/kmsg Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2016-04-26 13:20 +0200
      Re: [PATCH v2] printk: Add kernel parameter to disable writes to  /dev/kmsg Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> - 2016-04-25 21:40 +0200
    Re: [PATCH v2] printk: Add kernel parameter to disable writes to /dev/kmsg Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> - 2016-04-25 21:30 +0200
      Re: [PATCH v2] printk: Add kernel parameter to disable writes to  /dev/kmsg Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> - 2016-04-25 21:40 +0200
      Re: [PATCH v2] printk: Add kernel parameter to disable writes to /dev/kmsg Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> - 2016-04-25 21:40 +0200
      Re: [PATCH v2] printk: Add kernel parameter to disable writes to  /dev/kmsg Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> - 2016-04-25 21:50 +0200
        Re: [PATCH v2] printk: Add kernel parameter to disable writes to  /dev/kmsg Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> - 2016-04-26 07:40 +0200
          Re: [PATCH v2] printk: Add kernel parameter to disable writes to /dev/kmsg Bjørn Mork <bjorn@mork.no> - 2016-04-26 12:50 +0200
            Re: [PATCH v2] printk: Add kernel parameter to disable writes to  /dev/kmsg Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> - 2016-04-26 13:10 +0200
  Re: [PATCH v2] printk: Add kernel parameter to disable writes to /dev/kmsg Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org> - 2016-04-25 21:50 +0200

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