Re: [PATCH v1 3/3] cgroup: relax common ancestor restriction for direct descendants

From	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Newsgroups	linux.kernel
Subject	Re: [PATCH v1 3/3] cgroup: relax common ancestor restriction for direct descendants
Date	2016-07-21 23:10 +0200
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Hello,

On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 11:16:42AM -0700, James Bottomley wrote:
> OK so a theoretical (not saying it's implementable, we'll have to
> explore that) way of fixing all of this is to have separate views of
> the tree.  If the admin always saw everything in A, even if the
> cgroupns had created subdirectories in its own namespace.  That way
> there'd be no race ever in the admin's view (because it's the view they
> created and would expect to see).  All sub cgroup activity would only
> be visible to tasks in the new cgroupns (we'd probably have to have
> them make this visible by mounting a new cgroup tree).

Yeah, something like that.  The two domains of operation need to be
transparent to each other so that things taking place at system level
doesn't interfere with user level operations and vice-versa.  It's
likely that implementing something like that within filesystem based
interface won't work out too well.  There are too many expected
behaviors from being a filesystem which don't quite agree with such
abstraction.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

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[PATCH v1 0/3] cgroup: allow for unprivileged management Aleksa Sarai <asarai@suse.de> - 2016-07-18 18:20 +0200
  [PATCH v1 3/3] cgroup: relax common ancestor restriction for direct descendants Aleksa Sarai <asarai@suse.de> - 2016-07-18 18:20 +0200
    Re: [PATCH v1 3/3] cgroup: relax common ancestor restriction for  direct descendants Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org> - 2016-07-20 18:00 +0200
      Re: [PATCH v1 3/3] cgroup: relax common ancestor restriction for  direct descendants Aleksa Sarai <asarai@suse.de> - 2016-07-21 01:00 +0200
        Re: [PATCH v1 3/3] cgroup: relax common ancestor restriction for  direct descendants Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org> - 2016-07-21 01:10 +0200
          Re: [PATCH v1 3/3] cgroup: relax common ancestor restriction for  direct descendants Aleksa Sarai <asarai@suse.de> - 2016-07-21 01:20 +0200
            Re: [PATCH v1 3/3] cgroup: relax common ancestor restriction for  direct descendants Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org> - 2016-07-21 01:20 +0200
              Re: [PATCH v1 3/3] cgroup: relax common ancestor restriction for  direct descendants Aleksa Sarai <asarai@suse.de> - 2016-07-21 09:50 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v1 3/3] cgroup: relax common ancestor restriction for  direct descendants Aleksa Sarai <asarai@suse.de> - 2016-07-21 16:40 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v1 3/3] cgroup: relax common ancestor restriction for  direct descendants Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org> - 2016-07-21 17:10 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v1 3/3] cgroup: relax common ancestor restriction for  direct descendants "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com> - 2016-07-21 17:10 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v1 3/3] cgroup: relax common ancestor restriction for  direct descendants "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com> - 2016-07-21 16:40 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v1 3/3] cgroup: relax common ancestor restriction for  direct descendants James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com> - 2016-07-21 17:00 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v1 3/3] cgroup: relax common ancestor restriction for  direct descendants Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org> - 2016-07-21 17:00 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v1 3/3] cgroup: relax common ancestor restriction for  direct descendants Aleksa Sarai <asarai@suse.de> - 2016-07-21 17:10 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v1 3/3] cgroup: relax common ancestor restriction for  direct descendants Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org> - 2016-07-21 17:10 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v1 3/3] cgroup: relax common ancestor restriction for  direct descendants Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org> - 2016-07-21 17:00 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v1 3/3] cgroup: relax common ancestor restriction for  direct descendants James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com> - 2016-07-21 17:10 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v1 3/3] cgroup: relax common ancestor restriction for  direct descendants Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org> - 2016-07-21 17:10 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v1 3/3] cgroup: relax common ancestor restriction for  direct descendants James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com> - 2016-07-21 17:20 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v1 3/3] cgroup: relax common ancestor restriction for  direct descendants Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org> - 2016-07-21 17:30 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v1 3/3] cgroup: relax common ancestor restriction for  direct descendants James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com> - 2016-07-21 17:40 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v1 3/3] cgroup: relax common ancestor restriction for  direct descendants Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org> - 2016-07-21 18:00 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v1 3/3] cgroup: relax common ancestor restriction for  direct descendants James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com> - 2016-07-21 20:20 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v1 3/3] cgroup: relax common ancestor restriction for  direct descendants Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org> - 2016-07-21 23:10 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v1 3/3] cgroup: relax common ancestor restriction for  direct descendants Aleksa Sarai <asarai@suse.de> - 2016-07-22 10:30 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v1 3/3] cgroup: relax common ancestor restriction for  direct descendants Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org> - 2016-07-25 20:40 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v1 3/3] cgroup: relax common ancestor restriction for  direct descendants Aleksa Sarai <asarai@suse.de> - 2016-07-22 10:20 +0200
                Re: [PATCH v1 3/3] cgroup: relax common ancestor restriction for  direct descendants Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org> - 2016-07-25 20:50 +0200

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