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| From | Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | linux.kernel |
| Subject | Re: [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 0/2] introduce post-init read-only memory |
| Date | 2015-11-25 18:30 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <qyM3h-RQ-9@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink) |
| References | <qyttF-59Z-27@gated-at.bofh.it> <qyEp4-4c9-15@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| Organization | linux.* mail to news gateway |
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 1:13 AM, Mathias Krause <minipli@googlemail.com> wrote: > On 24 November 2015 at 22:38, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> wrote: >> Many things are written to only during __init, and never changed >> again. These cannot be made "const" since the compiler will do the wrong >> thing (we do actually need to write to them). Instead, move these items >> into a memory region that will be made read-only during mark_rodata_ro() >> which happens after all kernel __init code has finished. >> >> This introduces __read_only as a way to mark such memory, and uses it on >> the x86 vDSO to kill an extant kernel exploitation method. > > ...just some random notes on the experience with kernels implementing > such a feature for quite a lot of locations, not just the vDSO. > > While having that annotation makes perfect sense, not only from a > security perspective but also from a micro-optimization point of view > (much like the already existing __read_mostly annotation), it has its > drawbacks. Violating the "r/o after init" rule by writing to such > annotated variables from non-init code goes unnoticed as far as it > concerns the toolchain. Neither the compiler nor the linker will flag > that incorrect use. It'll just trap at runtime and that's bad. Well, or, it's good: that's the point of it. Either from the perspective of robustness or from that of security. > I myself had some educating experience seeing my machine triple fault > when resuming from a S3 sleep. The root cause was a variable that was > annotated __read_only but that was (unnecessarily) modified during CPU > bring-up phase. Debugging that kind of problems is sort of a PITA, you > could imagine. As PaX Team mentions, it should be easy to catch these traps and report them. That could certainly be a nice addition. > So, prior extending the usage of the __read_only annotation some > toolchain support is needed. Maybe a gcc plugin that'll warn/error on > code that writes to such a variable but is not __init itself. The > initify and checker plugins from the PaX patch might be worth to look > at for that purpose, as they're doing similar things already. Adding > such a check to sparse might be worth it, too. > A modpost check probably won't work as it's unable to tell if it's a > legitimate access (r/o) or a violation (/w access). So the gcc plugin > is the way to go, IMHO. There are many more pieces to add to the annotation use, but I don't want to risk getting us into a Catch-22. Emese's work on the plugin side will see this usage and utility grow, and I think getting these basic building blocks in place is the right place to start. -Kees -- Kees Cook Chrome OS & Brillo Security -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
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[PATCH 0/2] introduce post-init read-only memory Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> - 2015-11-24 22:40 +0100
[PATCH 1/2] x86: introduce post-init read-only memory Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> - 2015-11-24 22:40 +0100
Re: [PATCH 1/2] x86: introduce post-init read-only memory Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2015-11-25 01:40 +0100
Re: [PATCH 1/2] x86: introduce post-init read-only memory Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> - 2015-11-25 01:50 +0100
Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 1/2] x86: introduce post-init read-only memory Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au> - 2015-11-25 02:00 +0100
Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 1/2] x86: introduce post-init read-only memory Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> - 2015-11-25 16:10 +0100
Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 1/2] x86: introduce post-init read-only memory Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au> - 2015-11-26 00:10 +0100
Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 1/2] x86: introduce post-init read-only memory Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> - 2015-11-26 00:40 +0100
[PATCH 2/2] x86, vdso: mark vDSO read-only after init Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> - 2015-11-24 22:50 +0100
Re: [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 0/2] introduce post-init read-only memory Mathias Krause <minipli@googlemail.com> - 2015-11-25 10:20 +0100
Re: [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 0/2] introduce post-init read-only memory Clemens Ladisch <clemens@ladisch.de> - 2015-11-25 11:10 +0100
Re: [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 0/2] introduce post-init read-only memory "PaX Team" <pageexec@freemail.hu> - 2015-11-25 12:20 +0100
Re: [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 0/2] introduce post-init read-only memory "PaX Team" <pageexec@freemail.hu> - 2015-11-25 12:10 +0100
Re: [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 0/2] introduce post-init read-only memory Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> - 2015-11-26 10:00 +0100
Re: [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 0/2] introduce post-init read-only memory "PaX Team" <pageexec@freemail.hu> - 2015-11-26 11:00 +0100
Re: [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 0/2] introduce post-init read-only memory Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> - 2015-11-26 11:50 +0100
Re: [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 0/2] introduce post-init read-only memory "PaX Team" <pageexec@freemail.hu> - 2015-11-26 13:20 +0100
Re: [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 0/2] introduce post-init read-only memory Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> - 2015-11-27 09:10 +0100
Re: [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 0/2] introduce post-init read-only memory "PaX Team" <pageexec@freemail.hu> - 2015-11-27 16:40 +0100
Re: [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 0/2] introduce post-init read-only memory Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2015-11-27 17:40 +0100
Re: [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 0/2] introduce post-init read-only memory Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> - 2015-11-29 09:10 +0100
Re: [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 0/2] introduce post-init read-only memory "PaX Team" <pageexec@freemail.hu> - 2015-11-29 12:20 +0100
Re: [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 0/2] introduce post-init read-only memory Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> - 2015-11-29 16:40 +0100
Re: [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 0/2] introduce post-init read-only memory Mathias Krause <minipli@googlemail.com> - 2015-11-29 19:10 +0100
Re: [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 0/2] introduce post-init read-only memory Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> - 2015-11-30 09:10 +0100
Re: [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 0/2] introduce post-init read-only memory Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2015-11-26 17:20 +0100
Re: [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 0/2] introduce post-init read-only memory Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> - 2015-11-27 09:10 +0100
Re: [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 0/2] introduce post-init read-only memory Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> - 2015-11-27 19:10 +0100
Re: [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 0/2] introduce post-init read-only memory Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> - 2015-11-27 19:10 +0100
Re: [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 0/2] introduce post-init read-only memory Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> - 2015-11-27 21:10 +0100
Re: [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 0/2] introduce post-init read-only memory Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> - 2015-11-27 21:10 +0100
Re: [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 0/2] introduce post-init read-only memory Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> - 2015-11-29 09:10 +0100
Re: [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 0/2] introduce post-init read-only memory Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> - 2015-11-25 18:30 +0100
Re: [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 0/2] introduce post-init read-only memory "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com> - 2015-11-25 18:40 +0100
Re: [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 0/2] introduce post-init read-only memory Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> - 2015-11-25 20:00 +0100
Re: [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 0/2] introduce post-init read-only memory "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com> - 2015-11-25 20:10 +0100
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