Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing

From	Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Newsgroups	linux.kernel
Subject	Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing
Date	2015-10-20 16:50 +0200
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On Tue, 20 Oct 2015, Rob Herring wrote:

> > The probe ordering is not the entire picture, though.
> >
> > Even if you get the probe ordering right, the problem is going to show up in
> > multiple other places: system suspend/resume, runtime PM, system shutdown,
> > unbinding of drivers.  In all of those cases it is necessary to handle things
> > in a specific order if there is a dependency.
> 
> My understanding was with deferred probe that it also solves suspend
> ordering problems because things are suspended in reverse order of
> probing.

Devices are suspended in reverse order of _registration_.  Not of 
probing.

Furthermore, that applies only to devices that use synchronous suspend.  
Async suspend is becoming common, and there the only restrictions are 
parent-child relations plus whatever explicit requirements that drivers 
impose by calling device_pm_wait_for_dev().

Alan Stern

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Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org> - 2015-10-18 21:40 +0200
  Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> - 2015-10-18 21:40 +0200
    Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org> - 2015-10-18 22:00 +0200
      Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org> - 2015-10-19 11:50 +0200
        Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> - 2015-10-19 12:00 +0200
        Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org> - 2015-10-19 13:10 +0200
        Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org> - 2015-10-19 14:40 +0200
          Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org> - 2015-10-19 14:50 +0200
            Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org> - 2015-10-19 17:00 +0200
              Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org> - 2015-10-19 17:40 +0200
                Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> - 2015-10-19 17:50 +0200
                Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Uwe Kleine-König   <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de> - 2015-10-19 20:30 +0200
                Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> - 2015-10-19 20:50 +0200
                Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Alexandre Courbot <gnurou@gmail.com> - 2015-10-20 01:50 +0200
                Re: gpiod API considerations [Was: [GIT PULL] On-demand device  probing] Uwe Kleine-König   <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de> - 2015-10-20 09:20 +0200
                Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org> - 2015-10-20 13:20 +0200
                Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org> - 2015-10-19 18:00 +0200
                Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net> - 2015-10-19 23:20 +0200
                Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org> - 2015-10-20 01:00 +0200
                Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net> - 2015-10-20 09:30 +0200
                Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org> - 2015-10-20 16:20 +0200
                Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2015-10-20 16:50 +0200
                Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org> - 2015-10-20 17:40 +0200
                Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2015-10-20 18:10 +0200
                Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu.vizoso@collabora.com> - 2015-10-20 18:30 +0200
                Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2015-10-20 19:20 +0200
                Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org> - 2015-10-20 21:40 +0200
                Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net> - 2015-10-21 01:10 +0200
                Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Jean-Francois Moine <moinejf@free.fr> - 2015-10-21 08:20 +0200
                Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net> - 2015-10-22 02:30 +0200
                Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu.vizoso@collabora.com> - 2015-10-22 11:20 +0200
                Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net> - 2015-10-27 05:40 +0100
                Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net> - 2015-10-21 01:10 +0200
                Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org> - 2015-10-21 11:00 +0200
                Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net> - 2015-10-22 01:20 +0200
                Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org> - 2015-10-19 18:10 +0200
      Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu.vizoso@collabora.com> - 2015-10-19 14:40 +0200
        Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> - 2015-10-19 15:20 +0200
          Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu.vizoso@collabora.com> - 2015-10-19 16:20 +0200
            Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> - 2015-10-19 16:40 +0200
              Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu.vizoso@collabora.com> - 2015-10-19 17:10 +0200
                Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> - 2015-10-19 17:40 +0200
                Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org> - 2015-10-19 18:30 +0200
                Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> - 2015-10-19 18:50 +0200
                Re: Alternative approach to solve the deferred probe (was: [GIT  PULL] On-demand device probing) Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> - 2015-10-20 17:50 +0200
                Re: Alternative approach to solve the deferred probe Frank Rowand <frowand.list@gmail.com> - 2015-10-21 06:00 +0200
                Re: Alternative approach to solve the deferred probe Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> - 2015-10-21 10:20 +0200
                Re: Alternative approach to solve the deferred probe Frank Rowand <frowand.list@gmail.com> - 2015-10-21 17:40 +0200
                Re: Alternative approach to solve the deferred probe Grygorii Strashko <grygorii.strashko@ti.com> - 2015-10-21 19:00 +0200
                Re: Alternative approach to solve the deferred probe Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> - 2015-10-21 19:30 +0200
                Re: Alternative approach to solve the deferred probe Grygorii Strashko <grygorii.strashko@ti.com> - 2015-10-21 20:20 +0200
                Re: Alternative approach to solve the deferred probe Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> - 2015-10-21 20:30 +0200
                Re: Alternative approach to solve the deferred probe Grygorii Strashko <grygorii.strashko@ti.com> - 2015-10-22 17:20 +0200
                Re: Alternative approach to solve the deferred probe Frank Rowand <frowand.list@gmail.com> - 2015-10-21 20:10 +0200
                Re: Alternative approach to solve the deferred probe Grygorii Strashko <grygorii.strashko@ti.com> - 2015-10-21 20:40 +0200
                Re: Alternative approach to solve the deferred probe Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> - 2015-10-21 22:40 +0200
                Re: Alternative approach to solve the deferred probe Frank Rowand <frowand.list@gmail.com> - 2015-10-22 02:10 +0200
                Re: Alternative approach to solve the deferred probe (was: [GIT  PULL] On-demand device probing) Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org> - 2015-10-23 01:40 +0200
        Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Frank Rowand <frowand.list@gmail.com> - 2015-10-21 18:10 +0200
          Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org> - 2015-10-21 18:30 +0200
            Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Frank Rowand <frowand.list@gmail.com> - 2015-10-21 20:30 +0200
              Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org> - 2015-10-21 23:10 +0200
              Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org> - 2015-10-21 23:20 +0200
                Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Frank Rowand <frowand.list@gmail.com> - 2015-10-22 00:00 +0200
                Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu.vizoso@collabora.com> - 2015-10-22 11:10 +0200
                Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> - 2015-10-22 16:40 +0200
                Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> - 2015-10-22 16:50 +0200
                Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> - 2015-10-22 17:10 +0200
                Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org> - 2015-10-23 01:40 +0200
                Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Frank Rowand <frowand.list@gmail.com> - 2015-10-22 21:00 +0200
                Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> - 2015-10-22 21:30 +0200
                Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Tim Bird <tim.bird@sonymobile.com> - 2015-10-23 17:50 +0200
                Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org> - 2015-10-23 18:40 +0200
                Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net> - 2015-10-24 15:50 +0200
                Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org> - 2015-10-25 00:10 +0200
                Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org> - 2015-10-25 15:00 +0100
                Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org> - 2015-10-26 02:20 +0100
                Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Michael Turquette <mturquette@baylibre.com> - 2015-10-26 12:00 +0100
                Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu.vizoso@collabora.com> - 2015-10-26 14:00 +0100
                Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org> - 2015-10-27 00:40 +0100
                Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing "Andrew F. Davis" <afd@ti.com> - 2015-10-25 20:50 +0100
                Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org> - 2015-10-24 20:00 +0200

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