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The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal authentication. What alternatives to it exist?

Started byStella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com>
First post2024-01-03 18:40 +0100
Last post2024-01-04 01:30 +0100
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  The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal  authentication. What alternatives to it exist? Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2024-01-03 18:40 +0100
    Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal authentication. What alternatives to it exist? Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@debian-user.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2024-01-03 22:20 +0100
      Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal  authentication. What alternatives to it exist? Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2024-01-03 22:50 +0100
        Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal  authentication. What alternatives to it exist? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-01-03 23:20 +0100
          Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal  authentication. What alternatives to it exist? Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2024-01-04 00:10 +0100
            Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal  authentication. What alternatives to it exist? Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2024-01-04 00:20 +0100
              Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal  authentication. What alternatives to it exist? Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2024-01-04 00:30 +0100
                Name calling? [WAS: Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't  support WPA3-Personal authentication. What alternatives to it exist?] "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2024-01-04 00:50 +0100
              Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal  authentication. What alternatives to it exist? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-01-04 12:00 +0100
            Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal  authentication. What alternatives to it exist? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-01-04 00:20 +0100
              Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal  authentication. What alternatives to it exist? debian-user@howorth.org.uk - 2024-01-04 14:00 +0100
          Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal  authentication. What alternatives to it exist? Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2024-01-04 00:10 +0100
            Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal  authentication. What alternatives to it exist? Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2024-01-04 00:20 +0100
        Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal  authentication. What alternatives to it exist? Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2024-01-04 00:00 +0100
          Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal  authentication. What alternatives to it exist? Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2024-01-04 00:20 +0100
            Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal  authentication. What alternatives to it exist? Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2024-01-04 00:30 +0100
              Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal   authentication. What alternatives to it exist? Charles Kroeger <mbone@gmx.co.uk> - 2024-01-12 08:40 +0100
                Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal  authentication. What alternatives to it exist? Henning Follmann <hfollmann@itcfollmann.com> - 2024-01-12 14:20 +0100
          Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal  authentication. What alternatives to it exist? Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2024-01-04 00:20 +0100
            Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal  authentication. What alternatives to it exist? Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2024-01-04 00:30 +0100
              Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal  authentication. What alternatives to it exist? Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2024-01-04 00:40 +0100
            Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal  authentication. What alternatives to it exist? Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2024-01-04 00:30 +0100
          Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal  authentication. What alternatives to it exist? Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2024-01-04 00:20 +0100
        Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal  authentication. What alternatives to it exist? Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2024-01-04 00:50 +0100
        Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal authentication. What alternatives to it exist? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2024-01-04 01:00 +0100
          Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal  authentication. What alternatives to it exist? Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2024-01-04 01:20 +0100
    Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal  authentication. What alternatives to it exist? Kushal Kumaran <kushal@locationd.net> - 2024-01-04 01:30 +0100

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#265446 — The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal authentication. What alternatives to it exist?

FromStella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com>
Date2024-01-03 18:40 +0100
SubjectThe current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal authentication. What alternatives to it exist?
Message-ID<HSdnH-y5e-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
Hi guys

My Debian distro has a kernel version of 6.1.69-1 and the installed wpasupplicant's version for Debian Bookworm is 2:2.10-12.

I don't use Network Manager; instead I rely solely on the ifup and ifdown scripts to bring up my network interfaces.

My wireless router in my BFF's residence is capable of performing WPA3-Personal authentication and so is my device.

Unfortunately, the current package wpasupplicant is unable to do WPA3-Personal authentication.

What alternatives to it exist?

Thank you for your tips.

Best regards.

Stella

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#265453 — Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal authentication. What alternatives to it exist?

FromAnssi Saari <anssi.saari@debian-user.mail.kapsi.fi>
Date2024-01-03 22:20 +0100
SubjectRe: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal authentication. What alternatives to it exist?
Message-ID<HSgOB-Ak1-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#265446
Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> writes:

> Unfortunately, the current package wpasupplicant is unable to do WPA3-Personal authentication.

Are you sure? WPA3-Personal is hardly new so Bookworm should have the
support. Even the package description says that.

> What alternatives to it exist?

I don't think there are any. Or maybe you could do WPA2-enterprise
instead like I do but it's a little involved.

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#265456

FromStella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com>
Date2024-01-03 22:50 +0100
Message-ID<HShhD-Ati-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#265453
> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2024 at 5:16 AM
> From: "Anssi Saari" <anssi.saari@debian-user.mail.kapsi.fi>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal authentication. What alternatives to it exist?
>
>
> Are you sure? WPA3-Personal is hardly new so Bookworm should have the
> support. Even the package description says that.
>
Could you provide me the URL to the package description please?

Thanks.

Stella

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#265457

From<tomas@tuxteam.de>
Date2024-01-03 23:20 +0100
Message-ID<HShKF-ATc-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#265456

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On Wed, Jan 03, 2024 at 10:40:33PM +0100, Stella Ashburne wrote:
> 
> > Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2024 at 5:16 AM
> > From: "Anssi Saari" <anssi.saari@debian-user.mail.kapsi.fi>
> > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > Subject: Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal authentication. What alternatives to it exist?
> >
> >
> > Are you sure? WPA3-Personal is hardly new so Bookworm should have the
> > support. Even the package description says that.
> >
> Could you provide me the URL to the package description please?

This one?

  https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/wpasupplicant

Cheers
-- 
t

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#265460

FromStella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com>
Date2024-01-04 00:10 +0100
Message-ID<HSix3-Brn-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#265457
Hi Tomas

Thanks for your reply.

> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2024 at 6:18 AM
> From: tomas@tuxteam.de
> To: "Stella Ashburne" <rewefie@gmx.com>
> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal authentication. What alternatives to it exist?
>
>
> This one?
>
>   https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/wpasupplicant
>
The main heading of that web page is Package: wpasupplicant (2:2.10-12)

Immediately below it is the sub-heading that states

client support for WPA and WPA2 (IEEE 802.11i)

I fail to see WPA3 mentioned therein.

Best regards.

Stella

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#265465

FromBret Busby <bret@busby.net>
Date2024-01-04 00:20 +0100
Message-ID<HSiGJ-BuJ-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#265460
On 4/1/24 07:04, Stella Ashburne wrote:
> Hi Tomas
> 
> Thanks for your reply.
> 
>> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2024 at 6:18 AM
>> From: tomas@tuxteam.de
>> To: "Stella Ashburne" <rewefie@gmx.com>
>> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>> Subject: Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal authentication. What alternatives to it exist?
>>
>>
>> This one?
>>
>>    https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/wpasupplicant
>>
> The main heading of that web page is Package: wpasupplicant (2:2.10-12)
> 
> Immediately below it is the sub-heading that states
> 
> client support for WPA and WPA2 (IEEE 802.11i)
> 
> I fail to see WPA3 mentioned therein.
> 
> Best regards.
> 
> Stella
> 

Then "fail" seems to be the appropriate word.

 From the text that I quoted from that web page,

"wpa-supplicant is a userspace daemon handling connection and 
authentication in wireless and wired networks, primarily secured with 
the WPA/WPA2/WPA3 protocols"

If all else fails, read the words in front of you.

....
Bret Busby
Armadale
Western Australia
(UTC+0800)
.................

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#265471

FromStella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com>
Date2024-01-04 00:30 +0100
Message-ID<HSiQp-BxU-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#265465

> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2024 at 7:13 AM
> From: "Bret Busby" <bret@busby.net>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal authentication. What alternatives to it exist?
>
>
> Then "fail" seems to be the appropriate word.
>
>
And you fail to see that the sub-heading contradicts the contents of the package's description.

>  From the text that I quoted from that web page,
>
> "wpa-supplicant is a userspace daemon handling connection and
> authentication in wireless and wired networks, primarily secured with
> the WPA/WPA2/WPA3 protocols"
>
> If all else fails, read the words in front of you.

Being at least three decades younger than you, my eye sight is far superior to yours. You most probably are suffering from presbyopia but that's OK because it's normal for senior citizens.

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#265474 — Name calling? [WAS: Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal authentication. What alternatives to it exist?]

From"Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com>
Date2024-01-04 00:50 +0100
SubjectName calling? [WAS: Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal authentication. What alternatives to it exist?]
Message-ID<HSj9L-BEa-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#265471
On Thu, Jan 04, 2024 at 12:28:56AM +0100, Stella Ashburne wrote:
> 
> 
> > Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2024 at 7:13 AM
> > From: "Bret Busby" <bret@busby.net>
> > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > Subject: Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal authentication. What alternatives to it exist?
> >
<snip>
> >
> And you fail to see that the sub-heading contradicts the contents of the package's description.
> 
> >  From the text that I quoted from that web page,
> >
> > "wpa-supplicant is a userspace daemon handling connection and
> > authentication in wireless and wired networks, primarily secured with
> > the WPA/WPA2/WPA3 protocols"
> >
> > If all else fails, read the words in front of you.
> 
> Being at least three decades younger than you, my eye sight is far superior to yours. You most probably are suffering from presbyopia but that's OK because it's normal for senior citizens.
> 
> 
> 

Possibly being older than you, Stella - and wearing varifocals now - there's
still no good justification for being sarcastic about folk who are trying 
to be helpful on this list.

Was it really only _yesterday_ that I posted a refactored FAQ document
asking people to be constructive and considerate? 

My old man's sense of time must be defective (I'll be 62 in a couple of
weeks and I've only worn corrective vision glasses for the last 58 years)
> 

Please don't jump to conclusions about people's physical or mental
capabilities unless it's germane - it's unhelpful and doesn't contribute
either helpfully or meaningfully to discussion.

All the very best, as ever,

Andy
(amacater@debian.org)
> 

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#265498

From<tomas@tuxteam.de>
Date2024-01-04 12:00 +0100
Message-ID<HStC9-HX1-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#265465

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On Thu, Jan 04, 2024 at 07:13:01AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote:

[...]

> Then "fail" seems to be the appropriate word.

[...]

> If all else fails, read the words in front of you.

Folks, please, no need to be snarky.

Everyone of us overlooks something at times; something obvious to
someone may escape someone else and vice versa [0].

In this case it's honestly difficult to thoroughly understand those
marketing monikers which encompas a thicket of encryption primitives,
key lengths, key exchange protocols, key management strategies, authen
protocols and the whole sh*t pie up to the top.

I don't, and I admit it.

Here's one link to the source (which I found in Debian's package page
which seems to suggest that they actually "do" WPA3 [1]. The next step
would be to find out what "to do WPA3" actually means, since there
will be probably lots of things which are optional and both parties
have to negotiate, and there's possibly a policy part where one party
can say "ah, no, if you can't do thingmajig-2 with at least 193 bits
I'm out" or something.

The next step would be to contact their mailing list and ask.

Cheers

[0] And yes, please, remind me if I fail this standard,
   which I'm sure I do at times.

[1] https://w1.fi/wpa_supplicant/

-- 
t

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#265467

FromGreg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org>
Date2024-01-04 00:20 +0100
Message-ID<HSiGJ-BuJ-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#265460
On Thu, Jan 04, 2024 at 12:04:52AM +0100, Stella Ashburne wrote:
> >   https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/wpasupplicant
> >
> The main heading of that web page is Package: wpasupplicant (2:2.10-12)
> 
> Immediately below it is the sub-heading that states
> 
> client support for WPA and WPA2 (IEEE 802.11i)
> 
> I fail to see WPA3 mentioned therein.

Read more.

  client support for WPA and WPA2 (IEEE 802.11i)

     wpa-supplicant is a userspace daemon handling connection and
     authentication in wireless and wired networks, primarily secured with
     the WPA/WPA2/WPA3 protocols. This software provides key negotiation
     with the access point (WPA Authenticator), and controls association
     with IEEE 802.11i networks.

By the way, you don't need a web site to tell you the description of this
package in Debian.  You can simply run

    apt show wpasupplicant

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#265501

Fromdebian-user@howorth.org.uk
Date2024-01-04 14:00 +0100
Message-ID<HSvuh-JzH-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#265467
Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 04, 2024 at 12:04:52AM +0100, Stella Ashburne wrote:
> > >   https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/wpasupplicant
> > >  
> > The main heading of that web page is Package: wpasupplicant
> > (2:2.10-12)
> > 
> > Immediately below it is the sub-heading that states
> > 
> > client support for WPA and WPA2 (IEEE 802.11i)
> > 
> > I fail to see WPA3 mentioned therein.  
> 
> Read more.
> 
>   client support for WPA and WPA2 (IEEE 802.11i)
> 
>      wpa-supplicant is a userspace daemon handling connection and
>      authentication in wireless and wired networks, primarily secured
> with the WPA/WPA2/WPA3 protocols. This software provides key
> negotiation with the access point (WPA Authenticator), and controls
> association with IEEE 802.11i networks.

I do think Stella has a point in that the description page has a bug -
the sub-heading and the following text are not consistent. She should
raise an issue/bug report/whatever IMHO.

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#265461

FromBret Busby <bret@busby.net>
Date2024-01-04 00:10 +0100
Message-ID<HSix3-Brn-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#265457
On 4/1/24 06:18, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 03, 2024 at 10:40:33PM +0100, Stella Ashburne wrote:
>>
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2024 at 5:16 AM
>>> From: "Anssi Saari" <anssi.saari@debian-user.mail.kapsi.fi>
>>> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>>> Subject: Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal authentication. What alternatives to it exist?
>>>
>>>
>>> Are you sure? WPA3-Personal is hardly new so Bookworm should have the
>>> support. Even the package description says that.
>>>
>> Could you provide me the URL to the package description please?
> 
> This one?
> 
>    https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/wpasupplicant
> 
> Cheers

And, from the link that Tomas posted;

"
-- Package: wpasupplicant (2:2.10-12)
Links for wpasupplicant
Screenshot
Debian Resources:

     Bug Reports
     Developer Information
     Debian Changelog
     Copyright File
     Debian Patch Tracker

Download Source Package wpa:

     [wpa_2.10-12.dsc]
     [wpa_2.10.orig.tar.xz]
     [wpa_2.10-12.debian.tar.xz]

Maintainers:

     Debian wpasupplicant Maintainers (QA Page)
     Andrej Shadura (QA Page)

External Resources:

     Homepage [w1.fi]

Similar packages:

     wpasupplicant-udeb
     libwpa-client-dev
     hostapd
     wicd-daemon
     wicd-cli
     wicd-curses
     wicd-gtk
     python3-wicd
     python-wicd

client support for WPA and WPA2 (IEEE 802.11i)

wpa-supplicant is a userspace daemon handling connection and 
authentication in wireless and wired networks, primarily secured with 
the WPA/WPA2/WPA3 protocols. "


Which can no doubt be found via
https://www.google.com/search?q=debiaqn+package+wpasupplicant&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

....
Bret Busby
Armadale
Western Australia
(UTC+0800)
.................

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#265462

FromStella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com>
Date2024-01-04 00:20 +0100
Message-ID<HSiGJ-BuJ-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#265461

> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2024 at 7:03 AM
> From: "Bret Busby" <bret@busby.net>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal authentication. What alternatives to it exist?
>
> On 4/1/24 06:18, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 03, 2024 at 10:40:33PM +0100, Stella Ashburne wrote:
> >
> > This one?
> >
> >    https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/wpasupplicant
> >
> > Cheers
>
> And, from the link that Tomas posted;
>
> "
> -- Package: wpasupplicant (2:2.10-12)

About that web page referenced by Tomas' URL:

The main heading is

Package: wpasupplicant (2:2.10-12)

Immediately below it is the sub-heading that states

client support for WPA and WPA2 (IEEE 802.11i)

I fail to see WPA3 mentioned in said sub-heading.

Stella

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#265458

FromBret Busby <bret@busby.net>
Date2024-01-04 00:00 +0100
Message-ID<HSino-B8j-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#265456
On 4/1/24 05:40, Stella Ashburne wrote:
> 
>> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2024 at 5:16 AM
>> From: "Anssi Saari" <anssi.saari@debian-user.mail.kapsi.fi>
>> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>> Subject: Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal authentication. What alternatives to it exist?
>>
>>
>> Are you sure? WPA3-Personal is hardly new so Bookworm should have the
>> support. Even the package description says that.
>>
> Could you provide me the URL to the package description please?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Stella
I do not know whether you have heard of the search engine named google, 
but, from doing a search of the World Wide Web, using google, the 
following are some of the first results displayed.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/wpa_supplicant
- "wpa_supplicant is a cross-platform supplicant with support for WPA, 
WPA2 and WPA3 (IEEE 802.11i). It is suitable for desktops, laptops and 
embedded systems. It is the IEEE 802.1X/WPA component that is used in 
the client stations. It implements key negotiation with a WPA 
authenticator and it controls the roaming and IEEE 802.11 
authentication/association of the wireless driver."

https://w1.fi/wpa_supplicant/
- "Linux WPA/WPA2/WPA3/IEEE 802.1X Supplicant

wpa_supplicant is a WPA Supplicant for Linux, BSD, Mac OS X, and Windows 
with support for WPA, WPA2 (IEEE 802.11i / RSN), and WPA3. It is 
suitable for both desktop/laptop computers and embedded systems. 
Supplicant is the IEEE 802.1X/WPA component that is used in the client 
stations. It implements key negotiation with a WPA Authenticator and it 
controls the roaming and IEEE 802.11 authentication/association of the 
wlan driver.

wpa_supplicant is designed to be a "daemon" program that runs in the 
background and acts as the backend component controlling the wireless 
connection. wpa_supplicant supports separate frontend programs and a 
text-based frontend (wpa_cli) and a GUI (wpa_gui) are included with 
wpa_supplicant."

and, of course, ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wpa_supplicant
- "wpa_supplicant is a free software implementation of an IEEE 802.11i 
supplicant for Linux, FreeBSD, NetBSD, QNX, AROS, Microsoft Windows, 
Solaris, OS/2 (including ArcaOS and eComStation)[2] and Haiku.[3] In 
addition to being a WPA3 and WPA2 supplicant, it also implements WPA and 
older wireless LAN security protocols.
Features

Features include:[4]

     WPA-PSK and WPA2-PSK ("WPA-Personal", pre-shared key)
     WPA3[5]
     WPA with EAP ("WPA-Enterprise", for example with RADIUS 
authentication server)
     RSN: PMKSA caching, pre-authentication
     IEEE 802.11r
     IEEE 802.11w
     Wi-Fi Protected Setup (WPS)

Included with the supplicant are a GUI and a command-line utility for 
interacting with the running supplicant. From either of these interfaces 
it is possible to review a list of currently visible networks, select 
one of them, provide any additional security information needed to 
authenticate with the network (for example, a passphrase, or username 
and password) and add it to the preference list to enable automatic 
reconnection in the future."


....
Bret Busby
Armadale
Western Australia
(UTC+0800)
.................

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#265463

FromBret Busby <bret@busby.net>
Date2024-01-04 00:20 +0100
Message-ID<HSiGJ-BuJ-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#265458
On 4/1/24 07:11, Stella Ashburne wrote:
> 
> 
>> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2024 at 6:57 AM
>> From: "Bret Busby" <bret@busby.net>
>> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>> Subject: Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal authentication. What alternatives to it exist?
>>
>>
>> I do not know whether you have heard of the search engine named google,
>> but, from doing a search of the World Wide Web, using google, the
>> following are some of the first results displayed.
>>
>> https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/wpa_supplicant
>> - "wpa_supplicant is a cross-platform supplicant with support for WPA,
>> WPA2 and WPA3 (IEEE 802.11i). It is suitable for desktops, laptops and
>> embedded systems. It is the IEEE 802.1X/WPA component that is used in
>> the client stations. It implements key negotiation with a WPA
>> authenticator and it controls the roaming and IEEE 802.11
>> authentication/association of the wireless driver."
>>
> As stated in my original post, I am using Debian, not ArchLinux.
> 
> So your quote from ArchLinux's wiki is irrevelant to Debian's version of wpasupplicant.
> 

It is unfortunate that you refused to read the Debian package 
description to which you were referred.

-- 
....
Bret Busby
Armadale
Western Australia
(UTC+0800)
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#265470

FromStella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com>
Date2024-01-04 00:30 +0100
Message-ID<HSiQp-BxU-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#265463

> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2024 at 7:16 AM
> From: "Bret Busby" <bret@busby.net>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal authentication. What alternatives to it exist?
>
>
> It is unfortunate that you refused to read the Debian package
> description to which you were referred.
>
Rather it's unfortunate that you refused to recognize that the sub-heading contradicts with the so-called package's description.

I may be at least three decades younger than you but you don't have to sound patronizing or condescending.

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#265816 — Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal authentication. What alternatives to it exist?

FromCharles Kroeger <mbone@gmx.co.uk>
Date2024-01-12 08:40 +0100
SubjectRe: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal authentication. What alternatives to it exist?
Message-ID<HVkiZ-2x2K-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#265470
> you refused to recognize that the sub-heading contradicts with the
> so-called package's description

Yes yes, so file a bug report as recommended.

> three decades younger than you but you don't have to sound patronizing or
> condescending.

You started the war.

What's wrong with being old?

You established you're three decades younger but what's your BMI?

-- 
CK

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#265824

FromHenning Follmann <hfollmann@itcfollmann.com>
Date2024-01-12 14:20 +0100
Message-ID<HVpC1-2ArA-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#265816
On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 02:16:50AM -0500, Charles Kroeger wrote:
> > you refused to recognize that the sub-heading contradicts with the
> > so-called package's description
> 
> Yes yes, so file a bug report as recommended.
> 
> > three decades younger than you but you don't have to sound patronizing or
> > condescending.
> 
> You started the war.

That is debatable. But that will not solve anything.


> 
> What's wrong with being old?
> 
> You established you're three decades younger but what's your BMI?

What is wrong with you?

-H

-- 
Henning Follmann           | hfollmann@itcfollmann.com

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#265464

FromPocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com>
Date2024-01-04 00:20 +0100
Message-ID<HSiGJ-BuJ-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#265458
On 1/3/24 17:57, Bret Busby wrote:
> On 4/1/24 05:40, Stella Ashburne wrote:
>>
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2024 at 5:16 AM
>>> From: "Anssi Saari" <anssi.saari@debian-user.mail.kapsi.fi>
>>> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>>> Subject: Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support 
>>> WPA3-Personal authentication. What alternatives to it exist?
>>>
>>>
>>> Are you sure? WPA3-Personal is hardly new so Bookworm should have the
>>> support. Even the package description says that.
>>>
>> Could you provide me the URL to the package description please?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Stella
> I do not know whether you have heard of the search engine named google, 
> but, from doing a search of the World Wide Web, using google, the 
> following are some of the first results displayed.
> 
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/wpa_supplicant
> - "wpa_supplicant is a cross-platform supplicant with support for WPA, 
> WPA2 and WPA3 (IEEE 802.11i). It is suitable for desktops, laptops and 
> embedded systems. It is the IEEE 802.1X/WPA component that is used in 
> the client stations. It implements key negotiation with a WPA 
> authenticator and it controls the roaming and IEEE 802.11 
> authentication/association of the wireless driver."
> 
> https://w1.fi/wpa_supplicant/
> - "Linux WPA/WPA2/WPA3/IEEE 802.1X Supplicant
> 
> wpa_supplicant is a WPA Supplicant for Linux, BSD, Mac OS X, and Windows 
> with support for WPA, WPA2 (IEEE 802.11i / RSN), and WPA3. It is 
> suitable for both desktop/laptop computers and embedded systems. 
> Supplicant is the IEEE 802.1X/WPA component that is used in the client 
> stations. It implements key negotiation with a WPA Authenticator and it 
> controls the roaming and IEEE 802.11 authentication/association of the 
> wlan driver.
> 
> wpa_supplicant is designed to be a "daemon" program that runs in the 
> background and acts as the backend component controlling the wireless 
> connection. wpa_supplicant supports separate frontend programs and a 
> text-based frontend (wpa_cli) and a GUI (wpa_gui) are included with 
> wpa_supplicant."
> 
> and, of course, ...
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wpa_supplicant
> - "wpa_supplicant is a free software implementation of an IEEE 802.11i 
> supplicant for Linux, FreeBSD, NetBSD, QNX, AROS, Microsoft Windows, 
> Solaris, OS/2 (including ArcaOS and eComStation)[2] and Haiku.[3] In 
> addition to being a WPA3 and WPA2 supplicant, it also implements WPA and 
> older wireless LAN security protocols.
> Features
> 
> Features include:[4]
> 
>      WPA-PSK and WPA2-PSK ("WPA-Personal", pre-shared key)
>      WPA3[5]
>      WPA with EAP ("WPA-Enterprise", for example with RADIUS 
> authentication server)
>      RSN: PMKSA caching, pre-authentication
>      IEEE 802.11r
>      IEEE 802.11w
>      Wi-Fi Protected Setup (WPS)
> 
> Included with the supplicant are a GUI and a command-line utility for 
> interacting with the running supplicant. From either of these interfaces 
> it is possible to review a list of currently visible networks, select 
> one of them, provide any additional security information needed to 
> authenticate with the network (for example, a passphrase, or username 
> and password) and add it to the preference list to enable automatic 
> reconnection in the future."
> 
> 


Are you comparing the same package/version arch to debian?  The debian 
one may not be the latest and the arch is almost always the latest.


-- 
Hindi madali ang maging ako

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#265469

FromBret Busby <bret@busby.net>
Date2024-01-04 00:30 +0100
Message-ID<HSiQp-BxU-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#265464
On 4/1/24 07:20, Stella Ashburne wrote:
> 
> 
>> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2024 at 7:14 AM
>> From: "Pocket" <pocket@columbus.rr.com>
>> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>> Subject: Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal authentication. What alternatives to it exist?
>>
>>
>>
>> Are you comparing the same package/version arch to debian?  The debian
>> one may not be the latest and the arch is almost always the latest.
>>
> I totally agree with you on this point.
> 
> He quoted ArchLinux's version of wpasupplicant when I am using Debian's version.
> 
> He's like comparing apples to oranges.
> 

And, if you had bothered to make the effort to search, using the terms

debian package wpasupplicant bookworm

the first result is

"Debian -- Details of package wpasupplicant in bookworm
packages.debian.org › bookworm › wpasupplicant
wpa-supplicant is a userspace daemon handling connection and 
authentication in wireless and wired networks, primarily secured with 
the WPA/WPA2/WPA3 protocols.
"

but, as you insist on whining, rather than making an effort, then, you 
will never be satisfied until you have caused sufficient (for you) 
gratuitous irritation...

....
Bret Busby
Armadale
Western Australia
(UTC+0800)
.................

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