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Re: pointless systemd dependencies

From	Andrew McGlashan <andrew.mcglashan@affinityvision.com.au>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: pointless systemd dependencies
Date	2018-05-08 05:30 +0200
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On 08/05/18 04:52, songbird wrote:
> David Griffith wrote:
> ...
>> I found someone who has already done most if not all of this analysis and =
>> has set up a repo containing non-systemd-using packages=2E  Perhaps this ca=
>> n be used as a foundation for something official=2E
> 
>   devuan is already there (is it not?)...

Devuan is great, but if upstream packages rely unnecessarily on systemd
for any reason, then those packages may or may not have a port that is
sans systemd.  An alternative competing option may be necessary if the
"bad" package cannot be used sans systemd as required.

What we are looking at here [at a minimum] is to remove dependencies
that are actually there due to laziness rather than actually being
required; which is quite different.  If there is a "real" dependency,
then that needs to be coded around to fix it, if it, in fact, can be
coded around... which would take more work (possibly much more work).

Kind Regards
AndrewM

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pointless systemd dependencies David Griffith <dave@661.org> - 2018-05-07 04:10 +0200
  Re: pointless systemd dependencies Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2018-05-07 06:00 +0200
  Re: pointless systemd dependencies <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-05-07 08:10 +0200
    Re: pointless systemd dependencies David Griffith <dave@661.org> - 2018-05-07 08:50 +0200
      Re: pointless systemd dependencies tomas@tuxteam.de - 2018-05-07 09:20 +0200
      Re: pointless systemd dependencies Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2018-05-07 10:00 +0200
        Re: pointless systemd dependencies David Griffith <dave@661.org> - 2018-05-07 10:40 +0200
          Re: pointless systemd dependencies <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-05-07 12:30 +0200
    Re: pointless systemd dependencies "Michelle Konzack" <linux4michelle@tamay-dogan.net> - 2018-05-07 20:10 +0200
      Re: pointless systemd dependencies <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-05-07 20:50 +0200
        Re: pointless systemd dependencies "Michelle Konzack" <linux4michelle@tamay-dogan.net> - 2018-05-08 11:50 +0200
  Re: pointless systemd dependencies The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2018-05-07 14:00 +0200
    Re: pointless systemd dependencies David Griffith <dave@661.org> - 2018-05-07 15:10 +0200
      Re: pointless systemd dependencies songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2018-05-07 21:20 +0200
        Re: pointless systemd dependencies Andrew McGlashan <andrew.mcglashan@affinityvision.com.au> - 2018-05-08 05:30 +0200
      Re: pointless systemd dependencies Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-05-07 21:20 +0200
        Re: pointless systemd dependencies David Griffith <dave@661.org> - 2018-05-08 00:30 +0200
    Re: pointless systemd dependencies Abdullah Ramazanoğlu <ar018@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-07 21:00 +0200
      Re: pointless systemd dependencies The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2018-05-08 05:20 +0200
        Re: pointless systemd dependencies Abdullah Ramazanoğlu <ar018@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-08 11:10 +0200

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