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Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it.

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On Monday, January 3, 2022 4:42:56 PM EST David Wright wrote:
> On Mon 03 Jan 2022 at 04:33:53 (-0500), gene heskett wrote:
> > On Sunday, January 2, 2022 10:47:08 PM EST David Wright wrote:
> > > On Sun 02 Jan 2022 at 22:31:27 (-0500), gene heskett wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, January 2, 2022 9:54:29 PM EST David Wright wrote:
> > > > > On Sun 02 Jan 2022 at 17:53:19 (-0500), gene heskett wrote:
> > > > > > Without any conscious prompting by me, te debian 11.1 netinstall
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > x86-64 systems installed and setup whatever was needed to bring
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > screen reader to life.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I think it's happened to you before, in May 2019. Was something
> > > > > plugged in when you installed your OS, that was misidentified?
> > > > 
> > > > That is a possibility I suppose as there are, and were then too at
> > > > least
> > > > 10 usb devices plugged in 100% of the time, keyboard & mouse both
> > > > wireless, 2 printers then, 1 left is an MFC so its a scanner too, a
> > > > ups, a CM11a, two cameras (one is a movie w/firewire) and 7 other
> > > > machines on net cables. That lis is incomplete so who knows what
> > > > might
> > > > be miss-id'd.
> > > 
> > > ISTR there was some sort of fast serial device involved, and the
> > > log you posted showed that it was fighting brltty, so that would
> > > appear to be the most likely candidate.
> > 
> > Hmmm, that triggers old memories, as it might be a 10 meter usb2 cable
> > with booster hubs in both ends, which formerly connected the minicom
> > program to a trs-80 color computer 3 in the basement via an rs232 card
> > plugged into its multipack interface expander. But it wasn't very fast,
> > the uart chip in it was all tapped out at 9600 baud, and rzsz was
> > limited to about 7200 baud due to its loop size being one byte, I was
> > always going to rewrite it to fully use the table lookup version of the
> > crc calcs but never found a round tuit. it was highly dependent on flow
> > control working, something that early uart chip did not do well.
> > Prolific who made the rs232<>usb convertor on the end of that cable,
> > never did quite get that right.
> > 
> > But that 2 megs of ram "coco" has now died, 35 yo electroytics
> > developing
> > high ESR so its dead now, and despite my being a CET, I'm too lazy in my
> > dotage to shotgun all the caps it it, but I believe that cable is still
> > plugged in to one of several multiport usb 2 or 3 hubs on this machine.
> > 
> > Do we still have a working usbtree like utility that might discover
> > this?
> > Such useful stuff seems to be falling off the edge in later versions of
> > linux.
> 
> I hadn't noticed that. I got a tree from   lsusb -t   and   lsusb -v
> gave me ~1000 lines despite saying that there were several devices
> it couldn't open, so information would be missing.

And I hadn't noticed it had all been merged into one util that could do it 
all so a -t gets me 21  devices and 21 errors. a -v gets me 1480 lines, but 
no culprit seems to be waving its hand at me if piped to less. Two sio 
adapter's show up but s/b two as the cm11a needs one also. heyu does its 
thing for Christmas lights and such.

> Cheers,
> David.
> 
> .


Cheers David, Gene Heskett.
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brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2022-01-03 00:00 +0100
  Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2022-01-03 00:10 +0100
    Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2022-01-03 02:30 +0100
      Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2022-01-03 03:00 +0100
        Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2022-01-03 03:20 +0100
      Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2022-01-04 11:30 +0100
        Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. rhkramer@gmail.com - 2022-01-04 15:00 +0100
          Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2022-01-04 15:20 +0100
          Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2022-01-04 19:30 +0100
  Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2022-01-03 04:00 +0100
    Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2022-01-03 04:40 +0100
      Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2022-01-03 04:50 +0100
        Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2022-01-03 10:40 +0100
          Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2022-01-03 17:00 +0100
          Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2022-01-03 22:50 +0100
            Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2022-01-04 01:30 +0100
  Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. Jean-Philippe MENGUAL <jpmengual@debian.org> - 2022-01-03 04:00 +0100
    [FIXED] Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2022-01-03 04:50 +0100
      Re: [FIXED] Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> - 2022-01-03 08:10 +0100
        Re: [FIXED] Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2022-01-03 10:50 +0100
          Re: [FIXED] Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. Tom Dial <tddial@comcast.net> - 2022-01-04 08:10 +0100

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