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| From | Jelmer Vernooij <jelmer@jelmer.uk> |
| Newsgroups | linux.debian.maint.python |
| Subject | Re: Packages depending on python-testtools are now RC: is bzr still a thing? |
| Date | Sun, 15 Sep 2019 17:40:02 +0200 |
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It's not just bzr, it's also a bunch of plugins for bzr that we'd have to disable the testsuite for - as well as a bunch of other non-bzr-related packages - python-subunit, python-fixtures, python-testscenarios, python-daemon, python-fastimport. Jelmer On 15 September 2019 14:26:35 CEST, Mattia Rizzolo <mattia@debian.org> wrote: >Considering that this is bzr we are talking about, a package that is >already entering the graveyard, I think it would be easiest to just >disable >the test suite and move on. > >But I would be happier it Thomas at least checked the rdeps before >dropping >packages, at least evaluating if breaking things is alrightif he really >likes to break packages :/ > > >On Sun, 15 Sep 2019, 11:09 am Jelmer Vernooij, <jelmer@jelmer.uk> >wrote: > >> >> >> On 15 September 2019 01:15:11 CEST, Scott Kitterman ><debian@kitterman.com> >> wrote: >> >On Saturday, September 14, 2019 6:43:13 PM EDT Thomas Goirand wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> As I wrongly thought python-extras was used only by OpenStack >stuff, >> >I >> >> removed Python 2 support for it. Then someone filed a bug against >> >> python-testtools (ScottK, I believe) saying that it became RC. >> >> Therefore, I went ahead and removed Python 2 support for >testtools, >> >but >> >> now, this implies that a few packages which I didn't wish to >impact >> >are >> >> also RC: >> >> >> >> * bzr-builddeb >> >> * bzr-email >> >> * bzr-fastimport >> >> * bzr-git >> >> * bzr-stats >> >> * bzr-upload >> >> * loggerhead >> >> >> >> So, basically, unfortunately, Bazaar has lost some of its build >> >> dependencies. >> >> >> >> So, I went ahead, and looked what I could do for Bazaar. >> >Unfortunately, >> >> when looking at: >> >> https://launchpad.net/bzr >> >> >> >> I can see no release since January 2016, no daily archive. The >last >> >> commit in the bzr repository of bzr is from 2017-03-17. >> >> >> >> Then I went to see how much Python 3 effort would be needed, and I >> >> quickly gave up. It'd be A LOT of work, but nobody seems doing ANY >> >work >> >> on bzr anymore. >> >> >> >> So I wonder: is it time to remove bazaar from Debian? Or is there >any >> >> vague plan to make it work with Python 3? If we are to remove it >from >> >> Debian, then we'd better do it ASAP. >> > >> >As I understand it, bazaar (bzr) is dead and being replaced by >breezy >> >(brz), >> >which is python3 compatible. >> > >> >https://www.breezy-vcs.org/ >> > >> >My inference is that anything bzr specific can go, but I'm not >involved >> >in >> >either project. >> >> Bzr maintainer / breezy upstream here. >> >> I'm planning to upload transitional packages to trigger upgrades from >bzr >> to Breezy. >> >> The packages for that are not ready yet though. Can we undo the >dropping >> of python-testtools in the meantime? >> >> Jelmer >> >>
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Re: Packages depending on python-testtools are now RC: is bzr still a thing? Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2019-09-15 01:20 +0200
Re: Packages depending on python-testtools are now RC: is bzr still a thing? Jelmer Vernooij <jelmer@jelmer.uk> - 2019-09-15 11:10 +0200
Re: Packages depending on python-testtools are now RC: is bzr still a thing? Mattia Rizzolo <mattia@debian.org> - 2019-09-15 14:30 +0200
Re: Packages depending on python-testtools are now RC: is bzr still a thing? Jelmer Vernooij <jelmer@jelmer.uk> - 2019-09-15 17:40 +0200
Re: Packages depending on python-testtools are now RC: is bzr still a thing? Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2019-09-16 00:40 +0200
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