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Subject: Re: Packages depending on python-testtools are now RC: is bzr still a thing?
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It's not just bzr, it's also a bunch of plugins for bzr that we'd have to d=
isable the testsuite for - as well as a bunch of other non-bzr-related pack=
ages - python-subunit, python-fixtures, python-testscenarios, python-daemon=
, python-fastimport=2E

Jelmer

On 15 September 2019 14:26:35 CEST, Mattia Rizzolo <mattia@debian=2Eorg> w=
rote:
>Considering that this is bzr we are talking about, a package that is
>already entering the graveyard, I think it would be easiest to just
>disable
>the test suite and move on=2E
>
>But I would be happier it Thomas at least checked the rdeps before
>dropping
>packages, at least evaluating if breaking things is alrightif he really
>likes to break packages :/
>
>
>On Sun, 15 Sep 2019, 11:09 am Jelmer Vernooij, <jelmer@jelmer=2Euk>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 15 September 2019 01:15:11 CEST, Scott Kitterman
><debian@kitterman=2Ecom>
>> wrote:
>> >On Saturday, September 14, 2019 6:43:13 PM EDT Thomas Goirand wrote:
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> As I wrongly thought python-extras was used only by OpenStack
>stuff,
>> >I
>> >> removed Python 2 support for it=2E Then someone filed a bug against
>> >> python-testtools (ScottK, I believe) saying that it became RC=2E
>> >> Therefore, I went ahead and removed Python 2 support for
>testtools,
>> >but
>> >> now, this implies that a few packages which I didn't wish to
>impact
>> >are
>> >> also RC:
>> >>
>> >> * bzr-builddeb
>> >> * bzr-email
>> >> * bzr-fastimport
>> >> * bzr-git
>> >> * bzr-stats
>> >> * bzr-upload
>> >> * loggerhead
>> >>
>> >> So, basically, unfortunately, Bazaar has lost some of its build
>> >> dependencies=2E
>> >>
>> >> So, I went ahead, and looked what I could do for Bazaar=2E
>> >Unfortunately,
>> >> when looking at:
>> >> https://launchpad=2Enet/bzr
>> >>
>> >> I can see no release since January 2016, no daily archive=2E The
>last
>> >> commit in the bzr repository of bzr is from 2017-03-17=2E
>> >>
>> >> Then I went to see how much Python 3 effort would be needed, and I
>> >> quickly gave up=2E It'd be A LOT of work, but nobody seems doing ANY
>> >work
>> >> on bzr anymore=2E
>> >>
>> >> So I wonder: is it time to remove bazaar from Debian? Or is there
>any
>> >> vague plan to make it work with Python 3? If we are to remove it
>from
>> >> Debian, then we'd better do it ASAP=2E
>> >
>> >As I understand it, bazaar (bzr) is dead and being replaced by
>breezy
>> >(brz),
>> >which is python3 compatible=2E
>> >
>> >https://www=2Ebreezy-vcs=2Eorg/
>> >
>> >My inference is that anything bzr specific can go, but I'm not
>involved
>> >in
>> >either project=2E
>>
>> Bzr maintainer / breezy upstream here=2E
>>
>> I'm planning to upload transitional packages to trigger upgrades from
>bzr
>> to Breezy=2E
>>
>> The packages for that are not ready yet though=2E Can we undo the
>dropping
>> of python-testtools in the meantime?
>>
>> Jelmer
>>
>>