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Re: Python 3.11, bytecode and new internals

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From	Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org>
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Subject	Re: Python 3.11, bytecode and new internals
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On 11/22/22 17:59, Julian Gilbey wrote:
>>> Or should we mark them as X-Python3-Version: << 3.11 so they can stay in
>>> testing as long as Python 3.10 is the default?
>>
>> I don't think this is the way.
> 
> I'm sorry, I don't understand - which is not the way?

I don't think you should "mark them as X-Python3-Version: << 3.11", 
because either we use 3.10 or 3.11 in Bookworm, I don't think that 
there's a plan for having both interpreters available.

> But I still don't know what to do in the meantime with the spyder
> ecosystem besides either wait for upstream to sort bytecode and pydevd
> and Piotr (and possibly upstream) to sort parso, or to mark them as
> Python 3.10 only.

Well, hopefully for you, you'll get it fixed before next January, or we 
go back to 3.10 only (or both?).

Cheers,

Thomas Goirand (zigo)

Thread

Python 3.11, bytecode and new internals Julian Gilbey <julian@d-and-j.net> - 2022-11-21 08:30 +0100
  Re: Python 3.11, bytecode and new internals Louis-Philippe Véronneau <pollo@debian.org> - 2022-11-21 18:10 +0100
    Re: Python 3.11, bytecode and new internals Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2022-11-21 18:30 +0100
      Re: Python 3.11, bytecode and new internals Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2022-11-22 15:20 +0100
    Re: Python 3.11, bytecode and new internals Sandro Tosi <morph@debian.org> - 2022-11-21 18:40 +0100
      Re: Python 3.11, bytecode and new internals Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2022-11-22 09:30 +0100
        Re: Python 3.11, bytecode and new internals Julian Gilbey <julian@d-and-j.net> - 2022-11-22 11:00 +0100
          Re: Python 3.11, bytecode and new internals Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2022-11-22 17:10 +0100
            Re: Python 3.11, bytecode and new internals Julian Gilbey <julian@d-and-j.net> - 2022-11-22 18:00 +0100
              Re: Python 3.11, bytecode and new internals Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2022-11-23 00:30 +0100
                Re: Python 3.11, bytecode and new internals Julian Gilbey <julian@d-and-j.net> - 2022-11-23 08:40 +0100

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