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Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm?

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Subject	Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm?
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It seems I was a little bit out of date. Diane Trout has tried
with an unreleased snapshot which looks good with llvm-14
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1024795
Will work on it soon.

On Thu, 2022-12-22 at 18:04 -0500, M. Zhou wrote:
> I'm the regular uploader of python3-llvmlite.
> 
> Please give up with numba. Its core dependency llvmlite is not even
> ready for llvm != 11, while Sid had already get llvm-11 removed.
> I have tried to cherry-pick an upstream fix to bump llvmlite's
> llvm dependency to 12/14, but the autopkgtest shows numba would
> be vastly broken.
> 
> Unless they bump LLVM dependency to a newer version:
> https://github.com/numba/llvmlite/issues/897
> https://github.com/numba/llvmlite/pull/830
> there is zero chance to get numba in stable. I do not want to
> bump LLVM by force and leave a broken package in stable.
> 
> llvmlite's python 3.11 support is still on the way:
> https://github.com/numba/llvmlite/issues/885
> 
> One possibility is that we may apply for freeze exception
> and wait for the llvmlite v0.40.0 release and see whether
> they will bump llvm dependency.
> 
> 
> On Thu, 2022-12-22 at 18:46 +0000, Stefano Rivera wrote:
> > Hi Timo (2022.12.22_12:56:20_+0000)
> > > > There have been rebuilds in Ubuntu that give us some idea of how much
> > > > work remains. I think it's tractable, but also will have some package
> > > > casualties.
> > > I have some spare time right now, and I am happy to help
> > > work on problematic cases, so hopefully nobody will feel left out in
> > > the cold with their favorite packages.
> > 
> > Offhand, the one I most expect trouble with is numba. We were reliant on
> > upstream for the 3.10 transition, and probably will be for 3.11.
> > 
> > Thanks for your help with pony ORM, Timo. I didn't think we'd be able to
> > port that without upstream, but it did end up being tractable.
> > 
> > I'm expecting to have more time in the upcoming weeks, too.
> > 
> > So, release team, I still think we should go ahead!
> > 
> > SR
> > 
>

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Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? Matthias Klose <doko@ubuntu.com> - 2022-12-21 19:30 +0100
  Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? Sandro Tosi <morph@debian.org> - 2022-12-22 01:20 +0100
    Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? Nicholas D Steeves <sten@debian.org> - 2022-12-22 02:30 +0100
      Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? "M. Zhou" <lumin@debian.org> - 2022-12-22 06:10 +0100
      Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2022-12-28 02:00 +0100
        Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2022-12-30 10:30 +0100
          Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2023-01-05 14:00 +0100
            Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2023-01-07 09:10 +0100
              Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? Andrius Merkys <merkys@debian.org> - 2023-01-07 09:30 +0100
                Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? Andrius Merkys <merkys@debian.org> - 2023-01-09 16:50 +0100
              Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2023-01-16 17:30 +0100
                Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2023-01-17 01:10 +0100
                Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? Andreas Tille <tille@debian.org> - 2023-01-17 07:50 +0100
            Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? Étienne Mollier <emollier@emlwks999.eu> - 2023-01-10 22:50 +0100
    Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? Stefano Rivera <stefanor@debian.org> - 2022-12-22 13:50 +0100
      Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? Timo Röhling <roehling@debian.org> - 2022-12-22 14:00 +0100
        Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? Stefano Rivera <stefanor@debian.org> - 2022-12-22 19:50 +0100
          Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? "M. Zhou" <lumin@debian.org> - 2022-12-23 00:30 +0100
            Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? "M. Zhou" <lumin@debian.org> - 2022-12-23 00:40 +0100
          Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? Graham Inggs <ginggs@debian.org> - 2022-12-26 21:30 +0100
  Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? Graham Inggs <ginggs@debian.org> - 2022-12-26 21:50 +0100

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