Path: csiph.com!aioe.org!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: "M. Zhou" Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.python,linux.debian.devel.release Subject: Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2022 00:40:01 +0100 Message-ID: References: X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-python-request@lists.debian.org Thu Dec 22 23:33:11 2022 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.961 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, FOURLA=0.1, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SARE_MSGID_LONG40=0.637] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate: -4.6 X-Riseup-User-ID: 2F438306DCBA5959D52BC8009D0EBBC193CBB743B95BDF7C347ED2C5FE466EB2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/20645 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/6028e06caa490b3dd7004c7ae4f9111fc2202239.camel@riseup.net Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 54 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2022 18:17:42 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: <6028e06caa490b3dd7004c7ae4f9111fc2202239.camel@riseup.net> X-Original-References: <1fc30086-582e-36e1-f530-39323e85cd8d@ubuntu.com> <20221222124417.xgorgtkfhyqyof53@satie.tumbleweed.org.za> <20221222125620.54pr4bqoi3fuww6e@mail.gaussglocke.de> <20221222184627.ej4of62ugpq3xlbw@satie.tumbleweed.org.za> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:14777 linux.debian.devel.release:112540 It seems I was a little bit out of date. Diane Trout has tried with an unreleased snapshot which looks good with llvm-14 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D1024795 Will work on it soon. On Thu, 2022-12-22 at 18:04 -0500, M. Zhou wrote: > I'm the regular uploader of python3-llvmlite. >=20 > Please give up with numba. Its core dependency llvmlite is not even > ready for llvm !=3D 11, while Sid had already get llvm-11 removed. > I have tried to cherry-pick an upstream fix to bump llvmlite's > llvm dependency to 12/14, but the autopkgtest shows numba would > be vastly broken. >=20 > Unless they bump LLVM dependency to a newer version: > https://github.com/numba/llvmlite/issues/897 > https://github.com/numba/llvmlite/pull/830 > there is zero chance to get numba in stable. I do not want to > bump LLVM by force and leave a broken package in stable. >=20 > llvmlite's python 3.11 support is still on the way: > https://github.com/numba/llvmlite/issues/885 >=20 > One possibility is that we may apply for freeze exception > and wait for the llvmlite v0.40.0 release and see whether > they will bump llvm dependency. >=20 >=20 > On Thu, 2022-12-22 at 18:46 +0000, Stefano Rivera wrote: > > Hi Timo (2022.12.22_12:56:20_+0000) > > > > There have been rebuilds in Ubuntu that give us some idea of how mu= ch > > > > work remains. I think it's tractable, but also will have some packa= ge > > > > casualties. > > > I have some spare time right now, and I am happy to help > > > work on problematic cases, so hopefully nobody will feel left out in > > > the cold with their favorite packages. > >=20 > > Offhand, the one I most expect trouble with is numba. We were reliant o= n > > upstream for the 3.10 transition, and probably will be for 3.11. > >=20 > > Thanks for your help with pony ORM, Timo. I didn't think we'd be able t= o > > port that without upstream, but it did end up being tractable. > >=20 > > I'm expecting to have more time in the upcoming weeks, too. > >=20 > > So, release team, I still think we should go ahead! > >=20 > > SR > >=20 >=20