Re: Usage of real m68k hardware

From	Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.devel
Subject	Re: Usage of real m68k hardware
Date	2018-03-28 13:40 +0200
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Andreas Tille writes ("Re: Usage of real m68k hardware"):
> Just to not make that mistake again:  Is it the
> 
>   "I'm wondering when it might be time to fully drop a hardware
>    port instead of draining developer time for ethernity"
> 
> in my mail you stumbled upon.  May be its the language barrier but I do
> not think that if a random developer is wondering about something this
> is equivalent to "asking for the ultima ratio".  I was honestly thinking
> about whether we are keeping alive an architecture by everybody using
> emulators.  I try to be more careful in my wording in the future when
> asking questions about ports (and hope I will manage).

I read your the part you quote above as a rhetorical question[1], and
I also found it very aggressive.

I don't think that there is a way to "ask the question" about whether
someone's work should be destroyed which would not be perceived as
very hostile and aggressive.

I would recommend completely avoiding questions like "should we drop
port X" unless you actually mean that you think the port should be
dropped.  Since that is the way everyone will read it.

Thanks,
Ian.
(who has fond memories of m68k from 1993 and earlier)

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhetorical_question

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Usage of real m68k hardware Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2018-03-28 08:40 +0200
  Re: Usage of real m68k hardware John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> - 2018-03-28 09:00 +0200
    Re: Usage of real m68k hardware Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2018-03-28 10:00 +0200
      Re: Usage of real m68k hardware Carsten Strotmann <cas@strotmann.de> - 2018-03-28 10:20 +0200
      Re: Usage of real m68k hardware John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> - 2018-03-28 10:20 +0200
        Re: Usage of real m68k hardware Laurent Vivier <laurent@vivier.eu> - 2018-03-28 10:20 +0200
        Re: Usage of real m68k hardware Ole Streicher <olebole@debian.org> - 2018-03-28 11:50 +0200
      Re: Usage of real m68k hardware Chris Lamb <lamby@debian.org> - 2018-03-28 11:10 +0200
        Re: Usage of real m68k hardware John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> - 2018-03-28 11:40 +0200
          Re: Usage of real m68k hardware Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2018-03-28 12:10 +0200
            Re: Usage of real m68k hardware Emilio Pozuelo Monfort <pochu@debian.org> - 2018-03-28 12:30 +0200
            Re: Usage of real m68k hardware Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2018-03-28 13:40 +0200
          Re: Usage of real m68k hardware Thorsten Glaser <t.glaser@tarent.de> - 2018-04-17 19:30 +0200
            Re: Usage of real m68k hardware Ingo Jürgensmann <ij@2018.bluespice.org> - 2018-04-17 21:40 +0200
  Re: Usage of real m68k hardware Ingo Jürgensmann <ij@2018.bluespice.org> - 2018-03-28 09:30 +0200
  Re: Usage of real m68k hardware Carsten Strotmann <carsten@strotmann.de> - 2018-03-28 10:50 +0200
  Re: Usage of real m68k hardware Finn Thain <fthain@telegraphics.com.au> - 2018-03-28 11:20 +0200
    Re: Usage of real m68k hardware Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2018-03-28 12:20 +0200
      Re: Usage of real m68k hardware Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org> - 2018-03-28 13:00 +0200
      Re: interpretation of wontfix Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2018-03-28 13:10 +0200
        Re: interpretation of wontfix Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2018-03-28 14:00 +0200
          Re: interpretation of wontfix Marvin Renich <mrvn@renich.org> - 2018-03-28 14:30 +0200
        Re: interpretation of wontfix Marco d'Itri <md@Linux.IT> - 2018-03-28 14:50 +0200
          Re: interpretation of wontfix Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2018-03-28 17:30 +0200
        Re: interpretation of wontfix Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2018-03-28 15:40 +0200
        Re: interpretation of wontfix Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2018-03-28 19:10 +0200
          Re: interpretation of wontfix Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2018-03-29 15:00 +0200
            Re: interpretation of wontfix Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2018-03-29 17:20 +0200
            Re: interpretation of wontfix Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2018-03-29 20:30 +0200
        Re: interpretation of wontfix Don Armstrong <don@debian.org> - 2018-03-28 20:10 +0200
          Re: interpretation of wontfix Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2018-03-29 00:10 +0200
            Re: interpretation of wontfix Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2018-03-29 08:30 +0200
          Re: interpretation of wontfix Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2018-03-29 15:10 +0200
            Re: interpretation of wontfix Ian Campbell <ijc@debian.org> - 2018-03-29 15:20 +0200
              Re: interpretation of wontfix Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2018-03-29 16:20 +0200
              Re: interpretation of wontfix Wouter Verhelst <wouter@debian.org> - 2018-03-29 16:30 +0200
                Re: interpretation of wontfix Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2018-03-29 20:20 +0200
  Re: Usage of real m68k hardware Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2018-03-28 14:00 +0200
    Re: Usage of real m68k hardware Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2018-03-28 19:30 +0200
      Enhanced syntax for Architecture field (Was: Usage of real m68k  hardware) Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2018-03-28 20:30 +0200
        Re: Enhanced syntax for Architecture field (Was: Usage of real m68k  hardware) Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl> - 2018-03-28 22:30 +0200
          Re: Enhanced syntax for Architecture field Ole Streicher <olebole@debian.org> - 2018-03-29 09:50 +0200
            Re: Enhanced syntax for Architecture field Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl> - 2018-03-29 19:30 +0200
      Re: Usage of real m68k hardware Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2018-03-28 20:30 +0200
        Re: Usage of real m68k hardware Michael Gilbert <mgilbert@debian.org> - 2018-04-01 01:50 +0200
      Re: Usage of real m68k hardware Philipp Kern <pkern@debian.org> - 2018-03-28 22:00 +0200
        Re: Usage of real m68k hardware Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2018-03-28 22:30 +0200
  Re: Usage of real m68k hardware Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2018-03-28 19:10 +0200
  Re: Usage of real m68k hardware Wouter Verhelst <wouter@debian.org> - 2018-03-29 14:10 +0200
    Re: Usage of real m68k hardware Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2018-03-29 14:20 +0200

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