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| From | John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | linux.debian.devel, linux.debian.ports.68k |
| Subject | Re: Usage of real m68k hardware |
| Date | 2018-03-28 10:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <vyetj-DI-1@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink) |
| References | <vycUx-809-5@gated-at.bofh.it> <vyddT-87z-7@gated-at.bofh.it> <vye9X-ia-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
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Cross-posted to 2 groups.
On 03/28/2018 04:59 PM, Andreas Tille wrote: > I see no point in your repeated "to be honest" and blame others about > low quality. If in doubt read these three bug logs: > > #882555, #887680, #887682 > > All say > > this failure turned out to stem from a problem with the build > setup (specifically, a qemu bug); sorry for the noise. I did not report any of those issues as I am aware of some QEMU bugs that can occur from time to time. QEMU bugs still deserve to be fixed. > Getting fake bugs of severity important due to the fact that no real > hardware is used since it is to weak is not really convincing for > maintainers to spent time on it. How is it a fake bug if the bug was actually in QEMU? Also, again, I did not report any of those bugs and I wouldn't have reported them as I usually start looking at QEMU myself first. > Besides the fact that you went totally off topic with blaming scientific > software about its quality: Yes, there is some share of low quality > software in science as in every other field. We are working hard to get > it fixed. If there are real bugs in the code these will occure not only > on m68k but also on other less used architectures and we try to sort > this out with upstream. I have worked as a physicist myself for a long time and also did numerical physics and have dealt with a lot of software written by scientists. The quality of scientific software is usually of exceptional low quality because 90% of those scientists are neither programmers nor do they care of adhering to any common quality standards when developing software. Furthermore, from my own experience, most people compile scientific software from source anyway due to performance reasons, especially when it comes to using them for large calculations. So I don't see a point for having to package all of that in Debian. > Your mail was quite convincing to me to simply do what I said (severity > minor + wontfix) since receiving agressive responses is one more reason > for me not to spent my time on this. Honestly, what kind of response did you expect when your first suggestion to address these issues is to completely destroy the work of others? Do you actually think this is acceptable? You weren't asking for a compromise or a constructive discussion, you right away wanted to use the most radical solution and now you tell me that I am aggressive. Great. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaubitz@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de `- GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913
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Usage of real m68k hardware Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2018-03-28 08:40 +0200
Re: Usage of real m68k hardware John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> - 2018-03-28 09:00 +0200
Re: Usage of real m68k hardware Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2018-03-28 10:00 +0200
Re: Usage of real m68k hardware Carsten Strotmann <cas@strotmann.de> - 2018-03-28 10:20 +0200
Re: Usage of real m68k hardware John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> - 2018-03-28 10:20 +0200
Re: Usage of real m68k hardware Laurent Vivier <laurent@vivier.eu> - 2018-03-28 10:20 +0200
Re: Usage of real m68k hardware Ole Streicher <olebole@debian.org> - 2018-03-28 11:50 +0200
Re: Usage of real m68k hardware Chris Lamb <lamby@debian.org> - 2018-03-28 11:10 +0200
Re: Usage of real m68k hardware John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> - 2018-03-28 11:40 +0200
Re: Usage of real m68k hardware Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2018-03-28 12:10 +0200
Re: Usage of real m68k hardware Emilio Pozuelo Monfort <pochu@debian.org> - 2018-03-28 12:30 +0200
Re: Usage of real m68k hardware Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2018-03-28 13:40 +0200
Re: Usage of real m68k hardware Thorsten Glaser <t.glaser@tarent.de> - 2018-04-17 19:30 +0200
Re: Usage of real m68k hardware Ingo Jürgensmann <ij@2018.bluespice.org> - 2018-04-17 21:40 +0200
Re: Usage of real m68k hardware Ingo Jürgensmann <ij@2018.bluespice.org> - 2018-03-28 09:30 +0200
Re: Usage of real m68k hardware Carsten Strotmann <carsten@strotmann.de> - 2018-03-28 10:50 +0200
Re: Usage of real m68k hardware Finn Thain <fthain@telegraphics.com.au> - 2018-03-28 11:20 +0200
Re: Usage of real m68k hardware Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2018-03-28 12:20 +0200
Re: Usage of real m68k hardware Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org> - 2018-03-28 13:00 +0200
Re: interpretation of wontfix Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2018-03-28 13:10 +0200
Re: interpretation of wontfix Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2018-03-28 14:00 +0200
Re: interpretation of wontfix Marvin Renich <mrvn@renich.org> - 2018-03-28 14:30 +0200
Re: interpretation of wontfix Marco d'Itri <md@Linux.IT> - 2018-03-28 14:50 +0200
Re: interpretation of wontfix Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2018-03-28 17:30 +0200
Re: interpretation of wontfix Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2018-03-28 15:40 +0200
Re: interpretation of wontfix Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2018-03-28 19:10 +0200
Re: interpretation of wontfix Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2018-03-29 15:00 +0200
Re: interpretation of wontfix Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2018-03-29 17:20 +0200
Re: interpretation of wontfix Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2018-03-29 20:30 +0200
Re: interpretation of wontfix Don Armstrong <don@debian.org> - 2018-03-28 20:10 +0200
Re: interpretation of wontfix Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2018-03-29 00:10 +0200
Re: interpretation of wontfix Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2018-03-29 08:30 +0200
Re: interpretation of wontfix Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2018-03-29 15:10 +0200
Re: interpretation of wontfix Ian Campbell <ijc@debian.org> - 2018-03-29 15:20 +0200
Re: interpretation of wontfix Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2018-03-29 16:20 +0200
Re: interpretation of wontfix Wouter Verhelst <wouter@debian.org> - 2018-03-29 16:30 +0200
Re: interpretation of wontfix Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2018-03-29 20:20 +0200
Re: Usage of real m68k hardware Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2018-03-28 14:00 +0200
Re: Usage of real m68k hardware Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2018-03-28 19:30 +0200
Enhanced syntax for Architecture field (Was: Usage of real m68k hardware) Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2018-03-28 20:30 +0200
Re: Enhanced syntax for Architecture field (Was: Usage of real m68k hardware) Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl> - 2018-03-28 22:30 +0200
Re: Enhanced syntax for Architecture field Ole Streicher <olebole@debian.org> - 2018-03-29 09:50 +0200
Re: Enhanced syntax for Architecture field Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl> - 2018-03-29 19:30 +0200
Re: Usage of real m68k hardware Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2018-03-28 20:30 +0200
Re: Usage of real m68k hardware Michael Gilbert <mgilbert@debian.org> - 2018-04-01 01:50 +0200
Re: Usage of real m68k hardware Philipp Kern <pkern@debian.org> - 2018-03-28 22:00 +0200
Re: Usage of real m68k hardware Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2018-03-28 22:30 +0200
Re: Usage of real m68k hardware Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2018-03-28 19:10 +0200
Re: Usage of real m68k hardware Wouter Verhelst <wouter@debian.org> - 2018-03-29 14:10 +0200
Re: Usage of real m68k hardware Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2018-03-29 14:20 +0200
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