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| From | "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> |
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| Newsgroups | ger.ct |
| Subject | Re: Lettuce vs Liz |
| Date | 2022-10-21 06:41 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <tit7tn$htn$1@solani.org> (permalink) |
| References | <tirfj0$gk3q$1@solani.org> <tirila$aeat$2@dont-email.me> <tirj59$gklt$1@solani.org> <1t63518512i1e6e13n3e8%sfroehli@Froehlich.Priv.at> |
Am 20.10.22 um 19:28 schrieb Stefan Froehlich: > On Thu, 20 Oct 2022 15:40:57 Dr. Joachim Neudert wrote: >> P.S. Ich habe Boris sofort vermisst. Der nahm den PM Job nicht >> ernst, und sonst auch nichts. Ich glaube in diesen Zeiten ist das >> eine Voraussetzung der Überlebensfähigkeit und Handlungsfähigkit. > > Nun, selbst wenn es eine notwendige Bedingung sein mag ist sie ja > ganz offensichtlich nicht hinreichend, denn auch Boris ist im ersten > Versuch krachend gescheitert. > > Servus, > Stefan > Was wichtiger ist: Es ist ja nicht so sehr die Frau Liz Truss gescheitert. Sondern die Grundidee der Brexiteers ist krachend genau an der "Wirtschaft" zerschellt. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/oct/20/liz-truss-resignation-brexit-brexitism Die Idee, man muss nur alles freigeben, und die Steuern lösen, und die stärksten und reichsten Teilnehmer der Wirtschaft werden dann noch reicher und stärker und ziehen allezwangsläufig mit sich nach oben. Das war die Idee des Brexit. Sie hat diese Ideologie 1:1 unverdünnt umgesetzt. Und "die Märkte" wandten sich ab... "For one thing, in those short few weeks, Truss may well have killed off an ideological project that has animated sections of the right, in Britain and across the democratic world, for the best part of half a century. The vision was of a low tax, low regulation society where the richest are freed to unleash their awesome talents and make themselves even richer. According to this vision – whether you call it Hayekism, ultra-Thatcherism, Reaganism or economic libertarianism – when the fortunate few at the top soar ever upwards, some of their wealth trickles down to those at the bottom. Versions of it have held sway at different periods in Britain, the United States and beyond. Now, though, such dreams will be branded as Trussonomics – and that label will be the kiss of death. In six short weeks Truss has discredited high-octane, free-market economics, perhaps for ever. She tried it, undiluted, as her ideological soulmate and chancellor Kwasi Kwarteng delivered a mini-budget on 23 September that was a magnum of full-strength trickle-down served neat, a plan that read less like a fiscal programme for government than a provocatively extreme pamphlet drawn up by the Institute of Economic Affairs (IEA) (or any of the other outrider organisations headquartered at Truss’s spiritual home, 55 Tufton Street). The mini-budget that broke Britain – and Liz Truss Read more Trussonomics removed the cap on bankers’ bonuses and slashed the taxes of the wealthiest, handing an average £10,000 to the highest-earning 600,000 people in the country: literally the 1%. It reversed a planned rise in corporation tax, just in case the boardroom was not feeling sufficiently loved. And it did all that in the name of unleashing the animal spirits of the free market, so they might be released to create “growth”. Except the animal spirits wanted nothing to do with it. The financial markets recoiled from a plan that would have seen the government borrow to pay not only for tax cuts but for Truss’s already announced £150bn spend on energy bills. They could see what Truss wanted to spend, but could detect no sign of how she hoped to pay for it. The price of government borrowing rose in real time, while Kwarteng was still on his feet. Money talked – and what it said to Truss and her chancellor was: “You don’t know what you’re doing.” "
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Lettuce vs Liz Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-20 12:40 +0000
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Herwig <herwig.huener@t-online.de> - 2022-10-20 05:47 -0700
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Frank Hucklenbroich <hucklenbroich@gmx.net> - 2022-10-20 15:25 +0200
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Goetz Schultz <news.expire1225@goetz.co.uk> - 2022-10-20 14:32 +0100
Re: Lettuce vs Liz "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-20 15:40 +0200
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2022-10-20 17:02 +0200
Re: Lettuce vs Liz "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-20 17:14 +0200
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2022-10-20 18:00 +0200
Re: Lettuce vs Liz spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2022-10-23 17:32 +0200
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-23 17:20 +0000
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-24 07:47 +0200
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-23 23:27 -0700
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-24 11:35 +0200
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Goetz Schultz <news.expire1225@goetz.co.uk> - 2022-10-24 09:08 +0100
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-24 01:14 -0700
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-24 08:22 -0700
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Goetz Schultz <news.expire1225@goetz.co.uk> - 2022-10-24 17:54 +0100
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-24 23:15 -0700
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-24 08:22 -0700
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Goetz Schultz <news.expire1225@goetz.co.uk> - 2022-10-24 17:57 +0100
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-24 23:16 -0700
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Dietz Proepper <dietz-usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2022-10-20 17:24 +0200
Re: Lettuce vs Liz "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-20 17:31 +0200
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-20 17:50 +0200
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-20 23:23 -0700
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Goetz Schultz <news.expire1225@goetz.co.uk> - 2022-10-20 16:37 +0100
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2022-10-20 12:24 -0400
Re: Lettuce vs Liz "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-20 20:44 +0200
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2022-10-20 21:10 +0200
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-20 23:17 -0700
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2022-10-21 11:37 +0200
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-21 03:12 -0700
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-22 11:33 +0000
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-22 06:36 -0700
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Goetz Schultz <news.expire1225@goetz.co.uk> - 2022-10-22 14:46 +0100
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-22 07:43 -0700
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-24 00:23 -0700
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2022-10-25 19:57 +0000
Re: Lettuce vs Liz "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-21 06:41 +0200
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2022-10-21 08:15 +0200
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2022-10-21 13:36 -0400
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-21 18:03 +0000
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Goetz Schultz <news.expire1225@goetz.co.uk> - 2022-10-21 19:17 +0100
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-21 18:24 +0000
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Goetz Schultz <news.expire1225@goetz.co.uk> - 2022-10-21 20:15 +0100
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-21 23:35 -0700
Re: Lettuce vs Liz hc.ahlmann@gmx.de (HC Ahlmann) - 2022-10-21 23:14 +0200
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2022-10-21 23:35 +0200
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Goetz Schultz <news.expire1225@goetz.co.uk> - 2022-10-22 11:42 +0100
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2022-10-22 13:40 +0200
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Goetz Schultz <news.expire1225@goetz.co.uk> - 2022-10-22 13:07 +0100
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2022-10-22 14:47 +0200
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Goetz Schultz <news.expire1225@goetz.co.uk> - 2022-10-22 14:05 +0100
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-22 08:29 -0700
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2022-10-22 16:17 +0200
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Goetz Schultz <news.expire1225@goetz.co.uk> - 2022-10-22 15:43 +0100
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2022-10-21 16:08 -0400
Re: Lettuce vs Liz "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-22 08:53 +0200
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Hartmut Ott <hottm@arcor.de> - 2022-10-22 14:45 +0200
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-21 23:31 -0700
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-20 23:06 -0700
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2022-10-20 23:21 -0700
Re: Lettuce vs Liz "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-20 17:34 +0200
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Mike Grantz <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2022-10-21 08:05 +0200
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Frank Hucklenbroich <hucklenbroich@gmx.net> - 2022-10-21 09:46 +0200
Re: Lettuce vs Liz "F. W." <me@home.com> - 2022-10-21 10:13 +0200
Re: Lettuce vs Liz "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2022-10-21 10:26 +0200
Re: Lettuce vs Liz Frank Hucklenbroich <hucklenbroich@gmx.net> - 2022-10-21 13:19 +0200
Re: Lettuce vs Liz "F. W." <me@home.com> - 2022-10-24 09:34 +0200
Re: Lettuce vs Liz "F. W." <me@home.com> - 2022-10-24 09:40 +0200
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