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| From | Lumin Etherlight <lumin+usenet@etherlight.link> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.unix.shell |
| Subject | Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. |
| Date | 2026-06-09 03:25 +0300 |
| Organization | Etherlight Systems - https://etherlight.link |
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| References | <slrn112c9fb.2pa2.zaydm@new.localdomain> <1105ae4$1naub$1@dont-email.me> |
Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com>
writes:
> 'ed' is _a_ standard text editor; on Unixes.
> Though a very primitive one.
It is indeed primitive, in the way a chisel is.
> (I wonder why one would make ones life harder than
> necessary.)
It is not harder with ed. As a user of ed,
who also used emacs and vim for over a decade,
(and many others) I don't view ed as a lesser tool
that is "behind" "modern" editors, I think ed is a
different mindset for editing, in the same vain as
vim being different from Visual Studio. If a user
of Visual Studio says in relation to learning vim:
"Why make one's life harder than necessary", the
answer would be very similar. It is harder only
because it didn't "click" for you yet.
> Is that the reason why the formatting of your post
> is corrupt? (Or is it your newsreader settings?)
Unlikely. I'm also writing this in ed, and
I don't think my formatting will be corrupt :)
> Vim is not based on the Vi code base. But
> functionally yes, mostly. And you won't gain
> anything if trying to somehow relate Vim to
> Ed; these are functionally completely different
> things.
Vim, perhaps not. As the culture around vim
is no longer similar at all to what ed was.
People installing a 120 plugins to turn their vim
into an IDE is exactly not what ed is. But, the
original vi editors, I would say they were very
close to ed indeed. Screen editing is a big
difference of course, but with vi, you were still
meant to integrate your editor into the rest of
your UNIX environment using the vi command mode,
you don't install a plugin to wrap lines in vim,
but you pass the text to fmt from vi. With ed, it
is a very similar approach. The power of ed is
that it is open to the rest of UNIX, and through
that integration, you gain great productivity.
>> reply here if you use ed and would like to talk
>> about it, or if your nam e is ed!
>
> I suggest to talk about editors in comp.editors
> (not primarily here).
Perhaps, better yes. But if one editor is
worthy of being discussed in comp.unix.shell, it's
ed, because ed is almost completely useless if not
for the shell. I spell check in ed by calling to
a shell program !aspell %, I format the post by
doing the same !par, when I want a calendar in my
task file I !cal, etc. etc. Personally, I think
ed is the only editor that follows the UNIX
philosophy closely, it applies edits to text, and
it does so very well.
When I want to edit text, ed is my shell.
Best Regards,
Lumin Etherlight
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ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Zayd Mohammed <zaydm@172.24.208.1> - 2026-06-08 02:16 +0000
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-06-08 04:46 +0200
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-06-08 13:44 +0000
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-06-08 14:12 +0000
Re: ed. cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-06-08 19:30 +0000
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-06-08 14:40 -0700
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. groenveld@acm.org (John D Groenveld) - 2026-06-09 00:04 +0000
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Adam Sampson <ats@offog.org> - 2026-06-09 01:50 +0100
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-06-09 16:47 +0200
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-06-09 16:41 -0700
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Ben Collver <bencollver@tilde.pink> - 2026-06-09 14:27 +0000
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Eric Pozharski <apple.universe@posteo.net> - 2026-06-08 22:28 +0000
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Lumin Etherlight <lumin+usenet@etherlight.link> - 2026-06-09 03:25 +0300
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Daniel Cerqueira <dan.list@lispclub.com> - 2026-06-09 09:47 +0100
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Joerg Mertens <joerg-mertens@t-online.de> - 2026-06-09 15:53 +0200
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Daniel Cerqueira <dan.list@lispclub.com> - 2026-06-09 21:00 +0100
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-06-09 16:29 -0700
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-06-11 08:39 +0200
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-06-11 13:40 -0700
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-06-12 16:56 +0200
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-06-12 15:22 -0700
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-06-13 00:58 +0200
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-06-09 17:57 +0200
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. John McCue <jmclnx@gmail.com.invalid> - 2026-06-08 22:57 +0000
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Lumin Etherlight <lumin+usenet@etherlight.link> - 2026-06-09 03:02 +0300
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. gmc@metro.cx (Koen Martens) - 2026-06-09 06:17 +0000
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-09 06:55 +0000
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. John McCue <jmclnx@gmail.com.invalid> - 2026-06-09 19:44 +0000
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Top Dead Ctr <tdc@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-09 14:09 -0600
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> - 2026-06-09 23:52 +0000
Re: ed Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-10 00:40 +0000
Re: ed Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-10 00:38 +0000
Re: ed John McCue <jmclnx@gmail.com.invalid> - 2026-06-10 22:01 +0000
Re: ed Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-06-10 16:43 -0700
Re: ed Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-06-10 16:50 -0700
Re: ed cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-06-10 23:53 +0000
Re: ed Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2026-06-11 00:12 +0000
Re: ed Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-11 00:55 +0000
Re: ed cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-06-11 02:00 +0000
Re: ed Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-06-10 19:30 -0700
Re: ed cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-06-11 11:31 +0000
Re: ed Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> - 2026-06-11 15:02 +0000
Re: ed Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-06-11 08:46 +0200
Re: ed John McCue <jmclnx@gmail.com.invalid> - 2026-06-11 14:28 +0000
Re: ed cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-06-10 23:48 +0000
Re: ed Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2026-06-11 00:24 +0000
Re: ed John McCue <jmclnx@gmail.com.invalid> - 2026-06-11 14:11 +0000
Re: ed Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-12 00:22 +0000
Re: ed Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-11 00:53 +0000
Re: ed Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-06-11 09:02 +0200
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-10 11:03 +0100
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-06-11 09:12 +0200
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-12 09:44 +0100
Android editor (Was: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______.) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-06-12 09:03 +0000
Re: Android editor Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-12 12:01 +0100
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