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| From | Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.unix.shell |
| Subject | Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. |
| Date | 2026-06-11 08:39 +0200 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <110dl7a$1nauc$4@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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On 2026-06-10 01:29, Keith Thompson wrote: > Joerg Mertens <joerg-mertens@t-online.de> writes: >> Daniel Cerqueira <dan.list@lispclub.com> writes: >>> Lumin Etherlight <lumin+usenet@etherlight.link> writes: >>> >>>> Perhaps, better yes. But if one editor is >>>> worthy of being discussed in comp.unix.shell, it's >>>> ed, because ed is almost completely useless if not >>>> for the shell. I spell check in ed by calling to >>>> a shell program !aspell %, I format the post by >>>> doing the same !par, when I want a calendar in my >>>> task file I !cal, etc. etc. Personally, I think >>>> ed is the only editor that follows the UNIX >>>> philosophy closely, it applies edits to text, and >>>> it does so very well. >>>> >>>> When I want to edit text, ed is my shell. >>> >>> I love the way your text is formatted. Lumin, how have you formatted >>> the text above? :-) . >>> [...] >> Daniel wrote that he uses a program called "par" to format his texts. >> [...] > > The par program by default does not format text the way > Lumin Etherlight does. They might be using par with options. > "par -j" formats paragraphs by inserting spaces so the text is > right-justified. "par -j -w50" does the same, but with 50-character > lines. I don't see an option to insert two leading spaces on > each line. (I'm a bit astonished that Vim doesn't natively support that. - Or does it, and I just don't know about it?) > > Personally, I find Lumin's formatting distracting. For fixed-width > characters, right-justifying text by inserting blanks makes the text > more difficult to read, IMHO with no real benefit. (It tends to work > better with variable-width fonts.) Leading spaces typically denote > quoted text; adding using them on original text is unconventional, > and therefore distracting. 50 or 52 columns is much narrower than > most articles, which I also find distracting. (I use 70 or so, > typically via "fmt -w 70" or the equivalant "fmt -70".) > > Lumin's formatting is clever. Clever is not always good. I agree with most of what you say. And especially concerning the right-alignment with spurious spaces. (The indent I think is only mildly annoying; usually you can identify the indent-level by the number of '>'.) Narrower line-lengths (50-76) is okay for me; I find the (widespread!) use of using no line-length limits at all to be the much more annoying formatting habit. Janis
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ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Zayd Mohammed <zaydm@172.24.208.1> - 2026-06-08 02:16 +0000
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-06-08 04:46 +0200
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-06-08 13:44 +0000
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-06-08 14:12 +0000
Re: ed. cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-06-08 19:30 +0000
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-06-08 14:40 -0700
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. groenveld@acm.org (John D Groenveld) - 2026-06-09 00:04 +0000
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Adam Sampson <ats@offog.org> - 2026-06-09 01:50 +0100
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-06-09 16:47 +0200
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-06-09 16:41 -0700
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Ben Collver <bencollver@tilde.pink> - 2026-06-09 14:27 +0000
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Eric Pozharski <apple.universe@posteo.net> - 2026-06-08 22:28 +0000
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Lumin Etherlight <lumin+usenet@etherlight.link> - 2026-06-09 03:25 +0300
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Daniel Cerqueira <dan.list@lispclub.com> - 2026-06-09 09:47 +0100
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Joerg Mertens <joerg-mertens@t-online.de> - 2026-06-09 15:53 +0200
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Daniel Cerqueira <dan.list@lispclub.com> - 2026-06-09 21:00 +0100
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-06-09 16:29 -0700
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-06-11 08:39 +0200
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-06-11 13:40 -0700
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-06-12 16:56 +0200
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-06-12 15:22 -0700
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-06-13 00:58 +0200
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-06-09 17:57 +0200
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. John McCue <jmclnx@gmail.com.invalid> - 2026-06-08 22:57 +0000
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Lumin Etherlight <lumin+usenet@etherlight.link> - 2026-06-09 03:02 +0300
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. gmc@metro.cx (Koen Martens) - 2026-06-09 06:17 +0000
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-09 06:55 +0000
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. John McCue <jmclnx@gmail.com.invalid> - 2026-06-09 19:44 +0000
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Top Dead Ctr <tdc@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-09 14:09 -0600
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> - 2026-06-09 23:52 +0000
Re: ed Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-10 00:40 +0000
Re: ed Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-10 00:38 +0000
Re: ed John McCue <jmclnx@gmail.com.invalid> - 2026-06-10 22:01 +0000
Re: ed Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-06-10 16:43 -0700
Re: ed Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-06-10 16:50 -0700
Re: ed cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-06-10 23:53 +0000
Re: ed Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2026-06-11 00:12 +0000
Re: ed Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-11 00:55 +0000
Re: ed cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-06-11 02:00 +0000
Re: ed Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-06-10 19:30 -0700
Re: ed cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-06-11 11:31 +0000
Re: ed Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> - 2026-06-11 15:02 +0000
Re: ed Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-06-11 08:46 +0200
Re: ed John McCue <jmclnx@gmail.com.invalid> - 2026-06-11 14:28 +0000
Re: ed cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-06-10 23:48 +0000
Re: ed Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2026-06-11 00:24 +0000
Re: ed John McCue <jmclnx@gmail.com.invalid> - 2026-06-11 14:11 +0000
Re: ed Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-12 00:22 +0000
Re: ed Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-11 00:53 +0000
Re: ed Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-06-11 09:02 +0200
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-10 11:03 +0100
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-06-11 09:12 +0200
Re: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______. Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-12 09:44 +0100
Android editor (Was: ed __ ___ ________ ____ ______.) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-06-12 09:03 +0000
Re: Android editor Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-12 12:01 +0100
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