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Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable

Started byolcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
First post2025-05-04 21:23 -0500
Last post2025-05-06 22:07 -0400
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  Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-04 21:23 -0500
    Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2025-05-05 10:01 +0300
    Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2025-05-05 10:47 +0000
      Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-05 10:33 -0500
        Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2025-05-05 16:05 +0000
          Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-05 12:30 -0500
            Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2025-05-05 18:19 +0000
              Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-05 13:44 -0500
                Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2025-05-05 18:52 +0000
                  Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-05 14:22 -0500
                    Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2025-05-05 19:34 +0000
                      Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-05 14:52 -0500
                        Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2025-05-05 20:12 +0000
                          Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-05 16:03 -0500
                            Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2025-05-06 08:30 +0000
                              Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-06 09:43 -0500
                                Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-06 21:57 -0400
                    Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable joes <noreply@example.org> - 2025-05-06 10:04 +0000
                      Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-06 12:14 -0500
                        Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-06 22:01 -0400
                        Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2025-05-07 10:52 +0300
    Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-05 07:04 -0400
      Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Mr Flibble <flibble@red-dwarf.jmc.corp> - 2025-05-05 14:46 +0000
        Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-05 16:51 +0100
          Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Mr Flibble <flibble@red-dwarf.jmc.corp> - 2025-05-05 16:10 +0000
            Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-05 17:59 +0100
        Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-05 21:08 -0400
      Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-05 10:31 -0500
        Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-05 21:11 -0400
          Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-05 21:26 -0500
            Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-06 07:16 -0400
        Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-05 23:27 -0500
          Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2025-05-06 08:17 +0000
            Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-06 09:36 -0500
              Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2025-05-06 15:38 +0000
                Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-06 17:16 +0100
                  Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Ben Bacarisse <ben@bsb.me.uk> - 2025-05-07 17:01 +0100
                    Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-07 17:22 +0100
                      Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Mr Flibble <flibble@red-dwarf.jmc.corp> - 2025-05-07 17:11 +0000
                        Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-07 18:51 +0100
                      Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-07 18:59 +0100
                      Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Ben Bacarisse <ben@bsb.me.uk> - 2025-05-09 01:58 +0100
                        Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-09 05:43 +0100
                  Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 12:55 -0500
                    Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-07 19:14 +0100
                      Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Mr Flibble <flibble@red-dwarf.jmc.corp> - 2025-05-07 18:17 +0000
                        Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-07 19:32 +0100
                          Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Mr Flibble <flibble@red-dwarf.jmc.corp> - 2025-05-07 19:11 +0000
                            Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-07 22:23 +0100
                      Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 13:31 -0500
                        Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 14:32 -0400
                        Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-07 19:59 +0100
                          Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 14:35 -0500
                            Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-07 22:30 +0100
                              Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 16:46 -0500
                                Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 17:47 -0400
                                  Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 16:56 -0500
                                    Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 18:05 -0400
                                      Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 18:05 -0500
                                        Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 19:10 -0400
                                          Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 18:16 -0500
                                            Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 19:18 -0400
                                              Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 18:26 -0500
                                                Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 19:31 -0400
                                                  Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 18:39 -0500
                                                    Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 20:14 -0400
                                                  Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 18:40 -0500
                                                    Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 20:15 -0400
                                                      Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 19:19 -0500
                                                        Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 20:44 -0400
                                                          Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 20:20 -0500
                                                            Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 21:30 -0400
                                                              Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 20:48 -0500
                                                                Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 21:59 -0400
                                                            Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-08 05:09 +0100
                                                              Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-08 00:22 -0500
                                                                Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-08 06:33 +0100
                                                                  Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> - 2025-05-08 17:14 +0100
                                                                    Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-08 12:00 -0500
                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-08 21:04 +0200
                                                                        Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-08 14:42 -0500
                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-08 21:01 +0100
                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Mr Flibble <flibble@red-dwarf.jmc.corp> - 2025-05-08 21:35 +0000
                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-08 23:12 +0100
                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-05-08 15:26 -0700
                                                                                Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-05-08 15:31 -0700
                                                                                Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-08 17:47 -0500
                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-05-08 16:45 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-08 18:53 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-05-08 17:00 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-08 19:14 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-08 21:07 -0400
                                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-08 20:33 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-08 22:11 -0400
                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-05-08 18:54 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-09 05:50 +0100
                                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 00:01 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-09 06:23 +0100
                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-09 06:52 -0400
                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-09 10:41 +0200
                                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 10:39 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-09 12:50 -0400
                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-10 09:39 +0200
                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-08 21:02 -0400
                                                                                        Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-05-08 19:23 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-08 21:28 -0500
                                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-05-08 21:18 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <news.x.richarddamon@xoxy.net> - 2025-05-08 23:01 -0400
                                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-05-08 21:22 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-08 23:56 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-09 07:00 -0400
                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-09 06:59 -0400
                                                                                                Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 10:16 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-09 12:52 -0400
                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 09:52 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-09 12:57 -0400
                                                                                                Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-10 09:59 +0200
                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-09 10:47 +0200
                                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 10:48 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-09 13:00 -0400
                                                                                                Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 14:46 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-09 21:07 +0100
                                                                                                    Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 15:15 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-09 17:35 -0400
                                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-09 22:40 +0100
                                                                                                        Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 17:18 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 18:31 -0400
                                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-09 19:34 -0400
                                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-10 01:26 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 20:14 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 19:40 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 11:13 +0800
                                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 22:24 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 11:43 +0800
                                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 23:18 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 12:32 +0800
                                                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 23:44 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 12:51 +0800
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                                                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 00:19 -0500
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                                                                                                                                    Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 14:00 +0800
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                                                                                                                                        Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 14:19 +0800
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                                                                                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 11:01 -0400
                                                                                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-10 17:14 +0200
                                                                                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 23:14 +0800
                                                                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 10:43 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 11:44 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                    Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-10 17:34 +0100
                                                                                                                                                Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-10 18:05 +0200
                                                                                                                                                Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-10 17:07 +0100
                                                                                                                                    Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-10 10:30 +0200
                                                                                                                                    Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 08:39 -0400
                                                                                                                                Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 08:37 -0400
                                                                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 08:36 -0400
                                                                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-10 15:16 -0400
                                                                                                                        Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-10 08:54 -0400
                                                                                                                    Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-10 08:53 -0400
                                                                                                                Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-09 23:53 -0400
                                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 23:13 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 00:18 -0400
                                                                                                                    Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-10 10:25 +0200
                                                                                                                    Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-10 08:59 -0400
                                                                                                                Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-10 10:22 +0200
                                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-09 23:31 -0400
                                                                                                                Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 23:21 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-10 10:34 +0200
                                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-10 09:42 +0100
                                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-10 09:09 -0400
                                                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 22:13 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-09 23:45 -0400
                                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-10 10:18 +0200
                                                                                                                Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-10 11:24 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-09 17:34 -0400
                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-10 10:05 +0200
                                                                                                Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-10 11:18 +0100
                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <news.x.richarddamon@xoxy.net> - 2025-05-09 13:59 -0400
                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> - 2025-05-10 01:23 +0100
                                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 19:48 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-09 22:20 -0400
                                                                                                Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 21:41 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-10 03:59 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-09 23:06 -0400
                                                                                                  Repetitive posting [ Was: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD)] Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2025-05-10 10:21 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Repetitive posting [ Was: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD)] olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 09:30 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Repetitive posting [ Was: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD)] dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 10:57 -0400
                                                                                                      Re: Repetitive posting [ Was: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD)] "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-10 16:57 +0200
                                                                                                      Re: Repetitive posting [ Was: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD)] Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-10 15:21 -0400
                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-10 10:38 +0200
                                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 20:12 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 22:17 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-09 23:29 -0400
                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 23:27 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-10 10:44 +0200
                                                                                                    Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-10 09:15 -0400
                                                                                                    Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-10 15:23 -0400
                                                                                                Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-10 10:42 +0200
                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-09 05:35 +0100
                                                                                        Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-05-08 22:18 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-09 06:41 +0100
                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-09 10:39 +0200
                                                                                        Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 10:33 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) joes <noreply@example.org> - 2025-05-09 15:42 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 10:53 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-09 14:06 -0400
                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-09 13:58 -0400
                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-10 10:46 +0200
                                                                                        Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 10:41 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-09 14:08 -0400
                                                                                Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-08 17:50 -0500
                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-09 00:30 +0100
                                                                                    Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-08 18:41 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-09 00:46 +0100
                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-05-08 16:54 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-08 19:05 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-08 21:13 -0400
                                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-08 20:35 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-05-08 19:14 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-09 06:10 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-05-08 22:37 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-08 22:13 -0400
                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-09 11:03 +0200
                                                                                                Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 11:02 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-09 14:09 -0400
                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-10 10:49 +0200
                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-05-08 19:02 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-08 21:22 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-08 22:30 -0400
                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 14:37 +0200
                                                                                                Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 09:33 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-10 16:54 +0200
                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 23:28 +0800
                                                                                                    Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 10:45 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 00:06 +0800
                                                                                                        Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 11:19 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 12:21 -0400
                                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 00:29 +0800
                                                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 11:47 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 01:01 +0800
                                                                                                                Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 12:17 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 13:19 -0400
                                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 02:09 +0800
                                                                                                                    Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 13:17 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 14:24 -0400
                                                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 02:37 +0800
                                                                                                                        Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 13:47 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 03:02 +0800
                                                                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 14:29 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 05:44 +0800
                                                                                                                                Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 17:03 -0500
                                                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 18:39 -0400
                                                                                                                                    Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Mr Flibble <flibble@red-dwarf.jmc.corp> - 2025-05-10 22:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 19:03 -0400
                                                                                                                                        Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Mr Flibble <flibble@red-dwarf.jmc.corp> - 2025-05-10 23:35 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-10 18:57 -0400
                                                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 09:17 +0800
                                                                                                                                    Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 20:26 -0500
                                                                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-11 02:43 +0100
                                                                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 09:44 +0800
                                                                                                                                        Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 20:56 -0500
                                                                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 10:09 +0800
                                                                                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 21:19 -0500
                                                                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-11 07:03 -0400
                                                                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 22:34 +0800
                                                                                                                                                Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 10:38 -0500
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 00:28 +0800
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 12:00 -0500
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 01:21 +0800
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 12:40 -0500
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 13:44 -0400
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 02:38 +0800
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 15:19 -0500
                                                                                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 16:21 -0400
                                                                                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 04:23 +0800
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 15:50 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 15:53 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 17:01 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 05:48 +0800
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 17:00 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 17:05 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 06:11 +0800
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 17:30 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 06:50 +0800
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 18:08 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 08:33 +0800
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 19:51 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-11 21:15 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 20:51 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 21:56 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-12 22:30 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) joes <noreply@example.org> - 2025-05-16 15:38 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-16 10:50 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-16 12:04 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2025-05-17 11:09 +0300
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 19:59 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) --- DOS detector olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 19:57 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) --- DOS detector dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 21:01 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) --- DOS detector joes <noreply@example.org> - 2025-05-12 09:22 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) --- DOS detector olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 10:58 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-11 19:34 -0400
                                                                                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-11 17:06 -0400
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2025-05-12 11:03 +0300
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 10:04 -0500
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 11:06 -0400
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 11:19 -0500
                                                                                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 12:41 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 11:54 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 13:07 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 12:16 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 13:30 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 12:58 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 14:19 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-13 13:23 +0200
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2025-05-13 13:19 +0300
                                                                                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) joes <noreply@example.org> - 2025-05-12 21:29 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2025-05-12 23:10 -0400
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-11 16:25 -0400
                                                                                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Ben Bacarisse <ben@bsb.me.uk> - 2025-05-12 17:46 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 12:23 -0500
                                                                                                                                                Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-12 22:38 -0400
                                                                                                                                                Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2025-05-12 23:11 -0400
                                                                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-10 22:12 -0400
                                                                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-10 21:54 -0400
                                                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) joes <noreply@example.org> - 2025-05-11 11:07 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 11:37 -0500
                                                                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-11 16:36 -0400
                                                                                                                                        Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 16:13 -0500
                                                                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-11 19:36 -0400
                                                                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-13 13:20 +0200
                                                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-10 18:52 -0400
                                                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-10 15:32 -0400
                                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-10 15:25 -0400
                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2025-05-10 18:48 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 13:56 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 15:03 -0400
                                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-10 15:33 -0400
                                                                                                    Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Mr Flibble <flibble@red-dwarf.jmc.corp> - 2025-05-10 18:58 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2025-05-10 20:07 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Mr Flibble <flibble@red-dwarf.jmc.corp> - 2025-05-10 20:17 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 15:29 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-10 18:58 -0400
                                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2025-05-11 10:34 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Mr Flibble <flibble@red-dwarf.jmc.corp> - 2025-05-11 11:48 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-11 12:57 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Mr Flibble <flibble@red-dwarf.jmc.corp> - 2025-05-11 12:09 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-11 13:12 +0100
                                                                                                                    Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Mr Flibble <flibble@red-dwarf.jmc.corp> - 2025-05-11 12:17 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-11 13:36 +0100
                                                                                                                        Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Mr Flibble <flibble@red-dwarf.jmc.corp> - 2025-05-11 12:41 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-11 14:58 +0100
                                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 10:44 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-11 16:49 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-11 16:50 -0400
                                                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 10:14 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-11 16:27 +0100
                                                                                                        Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 15:26 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2025-05-10 20:45 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 15:58 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 17:01 -0400
                                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-10 19:23 -0400
                                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-10 19:04 -0400
                                                                                                        Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-10 21:27 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2025-05-10 20:22 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 15:42 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 16:50 -0400
                                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-10 19:27 -0400
                                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) joes <noreply@example.org> - 2025-05-11 11:13 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 11:44 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 12:52 -0400
                                                                                                                Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 12:35 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 13:43 -0400
                                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-13 13:10 +0200
                                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-11 18:11 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> - 2025-05-12 01:38 +0100
                                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 19:48 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 20:58 -0400
                                                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 20:05 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 21:07 -0400
                                                                                                                        Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-11 21:40 -0400
                                                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 21:11 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-12 22:39 -0400
                                                                                                                    Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-11 21:27 -0400
                                                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 20:56 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 21:59 -0400
                                                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 21:14 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 22:28 -0400
                                                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 21:36 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 22:38 -0400
                                                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 21:46 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 22:49 -0400
                                                                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 21:56 -0500
                                                                                                                                        Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 22:57 -0400
                                                                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 22:00 -0500
                                                                                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 23:03 -0400
                                                                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 22:36 -0500
                                                                                                                                                Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 23:39 -0400
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 22:50 -0500
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 23:54 -0400
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 23:11 -0500
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 07:46 -0400
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 11:32 -0500
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 12:45 -0400
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) joes <noreply@example.org> - 2025-05-12 21:27 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-13 13:01 +0200
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-13 13:05 +0200
                                                                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-12 22:44 -0400
                                                                                                                        Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-12 22:42 -0400
                                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-12 02:25 +0100
                                                                                                                    Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Ben Bacarisse <ben@bsb.me.uk> - 2025-05-12 18:03 +0100
                                                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Ben Bacarisse <ben@bsb.me.uk> - 2025-05-12 18:05 +0100
                                                                                                                        Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-12 19:13 +0100
                                                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Ben Bacarisse <ben@bsb.me.uk> - 2025-05-13 01:18 +0100
                                                                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-13 03:38 +0100
                                                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-12 19:06 +0100
                                                                                                                    Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> - 2025-05-13 03:17 +0100
                                                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 21:32 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-12 22:59 -0400
                                                                                                                        Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-13 12:58 +0200
                                                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-13 03:41 +0100
                                                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) joes <noreply@example.org> - 2025-05-13 09:01 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> - 2025-05-13 18:46 +0100
                                                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 16:04 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-13 18:45 -0400
                                                                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 20:58 -0400
                                                                                                                              How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 20:07 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 21:19 -0400
                                                                                                                                  Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 20:40 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 21:45 -0400
                                                                                                                                      Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 20:55 -0500
                                                                                                                                        Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 21:58 -0400
                                                                                                                                          Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 21:43 -0500
                                                                                                                                            Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 22:44 -0400
                                                                                                                                              Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 22:18 -0500
                                                                                                                                                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 23:35 -0400
                                                                                                                                            Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met joes <noreply@example.org> - 2025-05-14 08:17 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 10:06 -0500
                                                                                                                                                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met joes <noreply@example.org> - 2025-05-14 18:37 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 13:42 -0500
                                                                                                                                                    Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-14 19:56 +0100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 14:02 -0500
                                                                                                                                                        Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-14 20:17 +0100
                                                                                                                                                          Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 14:21 -0500
                                                                                                                                                            Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-14 20:49 +0100
                                                                                                                                                              Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 15:00 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-14 21:18 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 15:25 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-14 21:26 +0100
                                                                                                                                                            Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met joes <noreply@example.org> - 2025-05-14 20:28 +0000
                                                                                                                                                              Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 15:40 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-14 21:54 +0100
                                                                                                                                                              Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-14 21:51 +0100
                                                                                                                                                  Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met Ben Bacarisse <ben@bsb.me.uk> - 2025-05-14 20:20 +0100
                                                                                                                                                    Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 14:46 -0500
                                                                                                                                                      Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 17:18 -0400
                                                                                                                                                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-14 21:51 -0400
                                                                                                                                              Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> - 2025-05-15 00:02 +0100
                                                                                                                                                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 18:17 -0500
                                                                                                                                                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 18:27 -0500
                                                                                                                                                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met Ben Bacarisse <ben@bsb.me.uk> - 2025-05-15 01:02 +0100
                                                                                                                                                  Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 19:09 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-14 07:46 -0400
                                                                                                                                  Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 10:23 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) joes <noreply@example.org> - 2025-05-11 19:54 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-11 17:02 -0400
                                                                                                                Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 16:15 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-11 19:39 -0400
                                                                                                                    Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 19:29 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-11 21:31 -0400
                                                                                                                        Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 21:03 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 22:05 -0400
                                                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-12 22:49 -0400
                                                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-13 12:46 +0200
                                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-13 12:48 +0200
                                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-13 13:16 +0200
                                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2025-05-11 12:26 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Mr Flibble <flibble@red-dwarf.jmc.corp> - 2025-05-11 12:34 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2025-05-11 14:38 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 10:26 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-11 16:38 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 11:58 -0400
                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-10 15:25 -0400
                                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 09:45 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-09 14:13 -0400
                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-09 11:00 +0200
                                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 10:59 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-09 14:15 -0400
                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-10 10:52 +0200
                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-05-08 16:49 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-08 18:59 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-08 21:15 -0400
                                                                                        Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-08 20:41 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-08 22:18 -0400
                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-05-08 18:30 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-08 21:13 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-08 22:35 -0400
                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> - 2025-05-09 04:14 +0100
                                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-08 22:34 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) joes <noreply@example.org> - 2025-05-09 09:48 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 10:08 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) joes <noreply@example.org> - 2025-05-09 15:47 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 10:57 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-09 14:22 -0400
                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-09 07:12 -0400
                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-05-08 21:11 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-08 23:49 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-05-08 22:31 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 00:49 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-05-08 23:17 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 10:03 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-09 14:24 -0400
                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-09 07:21 -0400
                                                                                                Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-09 07:18 -0400
                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-09 07:15 -0400
                                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 18:02 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-09 19:36 -0400
                                                                                                Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 18:43 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-09 20:37 -0400
                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-10 15:28 +0200
                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-10 01:29 +0100
                                                                                                Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-09 20:38 -0400
                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-10 01:48 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 19:54 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-09 22:25 -0400
                                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 21:43 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-09 23:08 -0400
                                                                                                Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 19:51 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-10 02:15 +0100
                                                                                                    Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 20:29 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-10 02:32 +0100
                                                                                                        Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 20:50 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 20:48 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-10 03:15 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 21:20 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-09 22:39 -0400
                                                                                                                Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 21:47 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-09 23:12 -0400
                                                                                                                    Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 23:46 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-10 11:03 +0100
                                                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-10 14:57 +0200
                                                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-10 09:17 -0400
                                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-09 23:10 -0400
                                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-10 14:59 +0200
                                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-09 22:34 -0400
                                                                                                        Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 20:50 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-10 03:19 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 21:27 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-09 23:17 -0400
                                                                                                                Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) --- DOUBLE DOG DARE YOU olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 22:29 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) --- DOUBLE DOG DARE YOU Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-09 23:50 -0400
                                                                                                                    Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) --- DOUBLE DOG DARE YOU olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 23:05 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) --- DOUBLE DOG DARE YOU Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-10 09:20 -0400
                                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-10 14:55 +0200
                                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-09 22:32 -0400
                                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-09 22:30 -0400
                                                                                                    Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 21:45 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-09 23:22 -0400
                                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-09 11:14 +0200
                                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 11:04 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-09 14:25 -0400
                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-08 16:41 -0500
                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-08 23:13 +0100
                                                                                Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-08 17:20 -0500
                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-09 07:25 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 10:55 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-09 14:29 -0400
                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-09 10:33 +0200
                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 10:29 -0500
                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-09 14:32 -0400
                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-10 09:37 +0200
                                                                      Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-08 19:35 -0400
                                                                        Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-08 18:48 -0500
                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-08 21:18 -0400
                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-08 20:55 -0500
                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-08 22:26 -0400
                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-09 11:28 +0200
                                                                                Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 11:13 -0500
                                                                                  Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-09 14:33 -0400
                                                                          Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-09 11:25 +0200
                                                                            Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 11:11 -0500
                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-09 14:34 -0400
                                                                              Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2025-05-10 09:53 +0200
                                                                    Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-08 18:45 +0100
                                                                Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-08 07:21 -0400
                                                  Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 18:41 -0500
                                Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-07 22:52 +0100
                                  Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 16:59 -0500
                                    Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-07 23:16 +0100
                                      Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Mr Flibble <flibble@red-dwarf.jmc.corp> - 2025-05-07 22:26 +0000
                                        Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-07 23:29 +0100
                                      Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 18:09 -0500
                                        Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-08 03:24 +0100
                                          Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 21:41 -0500
                                            Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-08 05:12 +0100
                                            Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 21:33 -0700
                                              Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 23:54 -0500
                                                Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-08 06:02 +0100
                                Re: faithful simulations [was: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable] joes <noreply@example.org> - 2025-05-08 11:07 +0000
                    Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 14:18 -0400
                      Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 13:35 -0500
                        Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 14:38 -0400
                          Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 15:03 -0500
                            Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 16:07 -0400
                              Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 15:39 -0500
                                Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 16:53 -0400
                                  Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 15:58 -0500
                                    Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 17:03 -0400
                                      Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 16:24 -0500
                                        Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 17:29 -0400
                  Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 13:03 -0500
                    Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2025-05-08 11:38 +0300
                Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-06 12:06 -0500
                Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2025-05-07 11:02 +0300
                  Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-07 09:19 +0100
              Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-06 22:04 -0400
              Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2025-05-07 10:57 +0300
              Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-07 09:05 +0100
          Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-06 07:20 -0400
            Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable ---ELABORATED olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-05-06 12:46 -0500
              Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable ---ELABORATED Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-05-06 22:07 -0400

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#117472 — Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable

Fromolcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Date2025-05-04 21:23 -0500
SubjectFormal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable
Message-ID<vv97ft$3fg66$1@dont-email.me>
When we define formal systems as a finite list of basic facts and allow 
semantic logical entailment as the only rule of inference we have 
systems that can express any truth that can be expressed in language.

Also with such systems Undecidability is impossible. The only 
incompleteness are things that are unknown or unknowable.

The language of such a formal system is an extended form of the Montague 
Grammar of natural language semantics. I came up with this mostly in the 
last two years. I have been working on it for 22 years.

The Montague Grammar Rudolf Carnap Meaning postulates are organized in a 
knowledge ontology inheritance hierarchy. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontology_(information_science)
-- 
Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer

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#117496

FromMikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi>
Date2025-05-05 10:01 +0300
Message-ID<vv9not$3ugj2$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#117472
On 2025-05-05 02:23:56 +0000, olcott said:

> When we define formal systems as a finite list of basic facts and allow 
> semantic logical entailment as the only rule of inference we have 
> systems that can express any truth that can be expressed in language.

Semantic logical entailment is not a formal rule of inference. Consequently
a system unsing it is not a formal system.

-- 
Mikko

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#117515

FromAlan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Date2025-05-05 10:47 +0000
Message-ID<vva50q$24vr$1@news.muc.de>
In reply to#117472
[ Followup-To: set ]

In comp.theory olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
> When we define formal systems as a finite list of basic facts and allow 
> semantic logical entailment as the only rule of inference we have 
> systems that can express any truth that can be expressed in language.

> Also with such systems Undecidability is impossible. The only 
> incompleteness are things that are unknown or unknowable.

Do you believe in the tooth fairy, too?

[ .... ]

> -- 
> Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
> hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).

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#117531

Fromolcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Date2025-05-05 10:33 -0500
Message-ID<vvalp5$o6v5$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#117515
On 5/5/2025 5:47 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> [ Followup-To: set ]
> 
> In comp.theory olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>> When we define formal systems as a finite list of basic facts and allow
>> semantic logical entailment as the only rule of inference we have
>> systems that can express any truth that can be expressed in language.
> 
>> Also with such systems Undecidability is impossible. The only
>> incompleteness are things that are unknown or unknowable.
> 
> Do you believe in the tooth fairy, too?
> 

Counter-examples to my claim seem to be categorically impossible.
That you could not find one seems to prove my point.

> [ .... ]
> 
>> -- 
>> Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
>> hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer
> 


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Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer

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#117536

FromAlan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Date2025-05-05 16:05 +0000
Message-ID<vvanjf$1fho$1@news.muc.de>
In reply to#117531
olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/5/2025 5:47 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>> In comp.theory olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> When we define formal systems as a finite list of basic facts and allow
>>> semantic logical entailment as the only rule of inference we have
>>> systems that can express any truth that can be expressed in language.

>>> Also with such systems Undecidability is impossible. The only
>>> incompleteness are things that are unknown or unknowable.

>> Do you believe in the tooth fairy, too?

> Counter-examples to my claim seem to be categorically impossible.

Arrogantly wrong in the extreme.

> That you could not find one seems to prove my point.

Follow the details of the proof of Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem, and
apply them to your "system".  That will give you your counter example.

And don't come back with the arrogantly ignorant falsehood that somehow
Gödel's theorem doesn't apply to your "system".  He proved it applies to
any system that you can do anything at all non-trivial with.

[ .... ]

> -- 
> Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
> hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).

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#117544

Fromolcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Date2025-05-05 12:30 -0500
Message-ID<vvaske$vta4$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#117536
On 5/5/2025 11:05 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 5/5/2025 5:47 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>> In comp.theory olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> When we define formal systems as a finite list of basic facts and allow
>>>> semantic logical entailment as the only rule of inference we have
>>>> systems that can express any truth that can be expressed in language.
> 
>>>> Also with such systems Undecidability is impossible. The only
>>>> incompleteness are things that are unknown or unknowable.
> 
>>> Do you believe in the tooth fairy, too?
> 
>> Counter-examples to my claim seem to be categorically impossible.
> 
> Arrogantly wrong in the extreme.
> 
>> That you could not find one seems to prove my point.
> 
> Follow the details of the proof of Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem, and
> apply them to your "system".  That will give you your counter example.
> 

My system does not do "provable"
instead it does "provably true".

Any sentence that is not "provably true"
is construed as untrue. When its negation
is also not "provably true" then the sentence
is rejected as a semantically unsound proposition.

The system that I propose can handle full natural
language semantics as well all of the notations of
the formal languages.

> And don't come back with the arrogantly ignorant falsehood that somehow
> Gödel's theorem doesn't apply to your "system".  He proved it applies to
> any system that you can do anything at all non-trivial with.
>

Within the way that formal system are currently defined
the full semantics of an expression are strictly segregated
from its syntax.

When semantics is formalized syntactically  (with extended
Montague Grammar) such that semantics and syntax are fully
integrated into a single formal language then the notion
of semantically unsound can be directly measured.

"What time is it?" // Is not a semantically sound proposition.
"This sentence is not true" // Is not a semantically sound proposition.

Every expression and its negation that are not provably true
are rejected as not a semantically sound proposition.

> [ .... ]
> 
>> -- 
>> Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
>> hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer
> 


-- 
Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer

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#117553

FromAlan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Date2025-05-05 18:19 +0000
Message-ID<vvavfg$1fho$2@news.muc.de>
In reply to#117544
olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/5/2025 11:05 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>> olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 5/5/2025 5:47 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>>> In comp.theory olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> When we define formal systems as a finite list of basic facts and allow
>>>>> semantic logical entailment as the only rule of inference we have
>>>>> systems that can express any truth that can be expressed in language.

>>>>> Also with such systems Undecidability is impossible. The only
>>>>> incompleteness are things that are unknown or unknowable.

>>>> Do you believe in the tooth fairy, too?

>>> Counter-examples to my claim seem to be categorically impossible.

>> Arrogantly wrong in the extreme.

>>> That you could not find one seems to prove my point.

>> Follow the details of the proof of Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem, and
>> apply them to your "system".  That will give you your counter example.


> My system does not do "provable" instead it does "provably true".

I don't know anything about your "system" and I don't care.  If it's a
formal system with anything above minimal capabilities, Gödel's Theorem
applies to it, and the "system" will be incomplete (in Gödel's sense).

[ Irrelevant nonsense snipped. ]

> -- 
> Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
> hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).

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#117556

Fromolcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Date2025-05-05 13:44 -0500
Message-ID<vvb0un$vtiu$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#117553
On 5/5/2025 1:19 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 5/5/2025 11:05 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>> olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 5/5/2025 5:47 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>>>> In comp.theory olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> When we define formal systems as a finite list of basic facts and allow
>>>>>> semantic logical entailment as the only rule of inference we have
>>>>>> systems that can express any truth that can be expressed in language.
> 
>>>>>> Also with such systems Undecidability is impossible. The only
>>>>>> incompleteness are things that are unknown or unknowable.
> 
>>>>> Do you believe in the tooth fairy, too?
> 
>>>> Counter-examples to my claim seem to be categorically impossible.
> 
>>> Arrogantly wrong in the extreme.
> 
>>>> That you could not find one seems to prove my point.
> 
>>> Follow the details of the proof of Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem, and
>>> apply them to your "system".  That will give you your counter example.
> 
> 
>> My system does not do "provable" instead it does "provably true".
> 
> I don't know anything about your "system" and I don't care.  If it's a
> formal system with anything above minimal capabilities, Gödel's Theorem
> applies to it, and the "system" will be incomplete (in Gödel's sense).
> 

I reformulate the entire notion of "formal system"
so that undecidability ceases to be possible.

When True(x) means semantic logical entailment
from basic facts (stipulated to be true) then
there is no place for undecidability to exist.

True("This sentence is true") == FALSE
True("This sentence is not true") == FALSE
True("This sentence can be proven") == FALSE
True("This sentence has five words") == TRUE

> [ Irrelevant nonsense snipped. ]
> 
>> -- 
>> Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
>> hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer
> 


-- 
Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer

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#117558

FromAlan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Date2025-05-05 18:52 +0000
Message-ID<vvb1dd$1fho$3@news.muc.de>
In reply to#117556
olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/5/2025 1:19 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>> olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 5/5/2025 11:05 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:

[ .... ]

>>>> Follow the details of the proof of Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem, and
>>>> apply them to your "system".  That will give you your counter example.


>>> My system does not do "provable" instead it does "provably true".

>> I don't know anything about your "system" and I don't care.  If it's a
>> formal system with anything above minimal capabilities, Gödel's Theorem
>> applies to it, and the "system" will be incomplete (in Gödel's sense).


> I reformulate the entire notion of "formal system"
> so that undecidability ceases to be possible.

Liar.  That is impossible.

[ Irrelevant nonsense snipped. ]

> -- 
> Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
> hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).

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#117561

Fromolcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Date2025-05-05 14:22 -0500
Message-ID<vvb36j$15u5b$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#117558
On 5/5/2025 1:52 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 5/5/2025 1:19 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>> olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 5/5/2025 11:05 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> 
> [ .... ]
> 
>>>>> Follow the details of the proof of Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem, and
>>>>> apply them to your "system".  That will give you your counter example.
> 
> 
>>>> My system does not do "provable" instead it does "provably true".
> 
>>> I don't know anything about your "system" and I don't care.  If it's a
>>> formal system with anything above minimal capabilities, Gödel's Theorem
>>> applies to it, and the "system" will be incomplete (in Gödel's sense).
> 
> 
>> I reformulate the entire notion of "formal system"
>> so that undecidability ceases to be possible.
> 
> Liar.  That is impossible.
> 
> [ Irrelevant nonsense snipped. ]
> 

When you start with truth and only apply truth preserving
operations then you necessarily end up with truth.
Is that too difficult for you?

>> -- 
>> Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
>> hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer
> 


-- 
Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer

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#117566

FromAlan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Date2025-05-05 19:34 +0000
Message-ID<vvb3rj$1fho$4@news.muc.de>
In reply to#117561
olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/5/2025 1:52 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>> olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 5/5/2025 1:19 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>>> olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 5/5/2025 11:05 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:

>> [ .... ]

>>>>>> Follow the details of the proof of Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem, and
>>>>>> apply them to your "system".  That will give you your counter example.

>>>>> My system does not do "provable" instead it does "provably true".

>>>> I don't know anything about your "system" and I don't care.  If it's a
>>>> formal system with anything above minimal capabilities, Gödel's Theorem
>>>> applies to it, and the "system" will be incomplete (in Gödel's sense).

>>> I reformulate the entire notion of "formal system"
>>> so that undecidability ceases to be possible.

>> Liar.  That is impossible.

>> [ Irrelevant nonsense snipped. ]

> When you start with truth and only apply truth preserving
> operations then you necessarily end up with truth.
> Is that too difficult for you?

Not at all.  One of the truths you inescapably end up with is Gödel's
Theorem.  Either that, or the system is self-contradictory or too weak to
do anything at all.

That would appear to be well beyond your level of understanding.  You
ought to show some respect towards those who do understand these things.

> -- 
> Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
> hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).

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#117569

Fromolcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Date2025-05-05 14:52 -0500
Message-ID<vvb4u2$15u5b$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#117566
On 5/5/2025 2:34 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 5/5/2025 1:52 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>> olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 5/5/2025 1:19 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>>>> olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/5/2025 11:05 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> 
>>> [ .... ]
> 
>>>>>>> Follow the details of the proof of Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem, and
>>>>>>> apply them to your "system".  That will give you your counter example.
> 
>>>>>> My system does not do "provable" instead it does "provably true".
> 
>>>>> I don't know anything about your "system" and I don't care.  If it's a
>>>>> formal system with anything above minimal capabilities, Gödel's Theorem
>>>>> applies to it, and the "system" will be incomplete (in Gödel's sense).
> 
>>>> I reformulate the entire notion of "formal system"
>>>> so that undecidability ceases to be possible.
> 
>>> Liar.  That is impossible.
> 
>>> [ Irrelevant nonsense snipped. ]
> 
>> When you start with truth and only apply truth preserving
>> operations then you necessarily end up with truth.
>> Is that too difficult for you?
> 
> Not at all.  One of the truths you inescapably end up with is Gödel's
> Theorem.  Either that, or the system is self-contradictory or too weak to
> do anything at all.
> 

Gödel's theorem cannot possibly be recreated when
True(x) is defined to apply truth preserving
operations to basic facts.

LP = "This sentence is not true"
is unreachable by applying truth preserving
operations to basic facts thus:

True(LP) == FALSE
True(~LP) == FALSE.
Everything is decidable as True(x) or ~True(x).

Every expression e such that True(e) == FALSE
and True(~e) == FALSE is rejected as not a
semantically sound proposition.

> That would appear to be well beyond your level of understanding.  You
> ought to show some respect towards those who do understand these things.
> 

I have spent 22 years focusing on pathological self-reference.
My understanding really is deeper.

>> -- 
>> Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
>> hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer
> 


-- 
Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer

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#117574

FromAlan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Date2025-05-05 20:12 +0000
Message-ID<vvb62p$1fho$5@news.muc.de>
In reply to#117569
olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/5/2025 2:34 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>> olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 5/5/2025 1:52 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>>> olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 5/5/2025 1:19 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>>>>> olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/5/2025 11:05 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:

>>>> [ .... ]

>>>>>>>> Follow the details of the proof of Gödel's Incompleteness
>>>>>>>> Theorem, and apply them to your "system".  That will give you
>>>>>>>> your counter example.

>>>>>>> My system does not do "provable" instead it does "provably true".

>>>>>> I don't know anything about your "system" and I don't care.  If
>>>>>> it's a formal system with anything above minimal capabilities,
>>>>>> Gödel's Theorem applies to it, and the "system" will be incomplete
>>>>>> (in Gödel's sense).

>>>>> I reformulate the entire notion of "formal system"
>>>>> so that undecidability ceases to be possible.

>>>> Liar.  That is impossible.

>>>> [ Irrelevant nonsense snipped. ]

>>> When you start with truth and only apply truth preserving
>>> operations then you necessarily end up with truth.
>>> Is that too difficult for you?

>> Not at all.  One of the truths you inescapably end up with is Gödel's
>> Theorem.  Either that, or the system is self-contradictory or too weak
>> to do anything at all.

> Gödel's theorem cannot possibly be recreated when
> True(x) is defined to apply truth preserving
> operations to basic facts.

On the contrary, whether or not True(x) can be so defined, Gödel's
theorem cannot be avoided.

[ .... ]

>> That would appear to be well beyond your level of understanding.  You
>> ought to show some respect towards those who do understand these things.

> I have spent 22 years focusing on pathological self-reference.
> My understanding really is deeper.

It might be a little deeper than it was, but that's not saying very much.
The concept of proof by contradiction, for example, is way beyond you.
Even the very idea of a mathematical proof, its status, its significance
is beyond you.  You don't even understand what it is you're lacking.

Those 22 years have been suboptimally spent.

As I said, you ought to show a bit of respect to those who understand
these mathematical things.

> -- 
> Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
> hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).

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#117579

Fromolcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Date2025-05-05 16:03 -0500
Message-ID<vvb932$1av94$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#117574
On 5/5/2025 3:12 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 5/5/2025 2:34 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>> olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 5/5/2025 1:52 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>>>> olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/5/2025 1:19 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>>>>>> olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 5/5/2025 11:05 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> 
>>>>> [ .... ]
> 
>>>>>>>>> Follow the details of the proof of Gödel's Incompleteness
>>>>>>>>> Theorem, and apply them to your "system".  That will give you
>>>>>>>>> your counter example.
> 
>>>>>>>> My system does not do "provable" instead it does "provably true".
> 
>>>>>>> I don't know anything about your "system" and I don't care.  If
>>>>>>> it's a formal system with anything above minimal capabilities,
>>>>>>> Gödel's Theorem applies to it, and the "system" will be incomplete
>>>>>>> (in Gödel's sense).
> 
>>>>>> I reformulate the entire notion of "formal system"
>>>>>> so that undecidability ceases to be possible.
> 
>>>>> Liar.  That is impossible.
> 
>>>>> [ Irrelevant nonsense snipped. ]
> 
>>>> When you start with truth and only apply truth preserving
>>>> operations then you necessarily end up with truth.
>>>> Is that too difficult for you?
> 
>>> Not at all.  One of the truths you inescapably end up with is Gödel's
>>> Theorem.  Either that, or the system is self-contradictory or too weak
>>> to do anything at all.
> 
>> Gödel's theorem cannot possibly be recreated when
>> True(x) is defined to apply truth preserving
>> operations to basic facts.
> 
> On the contrary, whether or not True(x) can be so defined, Gödel's
> theorem cannot be avoided.
> 
> [ .... ]
> 
>>> That would appear to be well beyond your level of understanding.  You
>>> ought to show some respect towards those who do understand these things.
> 
>> I have spent 22 years focusing on pathological self-reference.
>> My understanding really is deeper.
> 
> It might be a little deeper than it was, but that's not saying very much.
> The concept of proof by contradiction, for example, is way beyond you.
> Even the very idea of a mathematical proof, its status, its significance
> is beyond you.  You don't even understand what it is you're lacking.
> 
> Those 22 years have been suboptimally spent.
> 
> As I said, you ought to show a bit of respect to those who understand
> these mathematical things.
> 

So you don't understand that when True(x) is
defined to only apply truth preserving operations
to basic facts that are stipulated to be true
that every input including random gibberish
and self-contradiction IS DECIDABLE AS TRUE OR ~TRUE.

>> -- 
>> Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
>> hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer
> 


-- 
Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer

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#117653

FromAlan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Date2025-05-06 08:30 +0000
Message-ID<vvchb4$1voc$2@news.muc.de>
In reply to#117579
[ Followup-To: set ]

In comp.theory olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/5/2025 3:12 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>> olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 5/5/2025 2:34 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>>> olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 5/5/2025 1:52 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>>>>> olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/5/2025 1:19 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>>>>>>> olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 5/5/2025 11:05 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:

>>>>>> [ .... ]

>>>>>>>>>> Follow the details of the proof of Gödel's Incompleteness
>>>>>>>>>> Theorem, and apply them to your "system".  That will give you
>>>>>>>>>> your counter example.

>>>>>>>>> My system does not do "provable" instead it does "provably true".

>>>>>>>> I don't know anything about your "system" and I don't care.  If
>>>>>>>> it's a formal system with anything above minimal capabilities,
>>>>>>>> Gödel's Theorem applies to it, and the "system" will be incomplete
>>>>>>>> (in Gödel's sense).

>>>>>>> I reformulate the entire notion of "formal system"
>>>>>>> so that undecidability ceases to be possible.

>>>>>> Liar.  That is impossible.

>>>>>> [ Irrelevant nonsense snipped. ]

>>>>> When you start with truth and only apply truth preserving
>>>>> operations then you necessarily end up with truth.
>>>>> Is that too difficult for you?

>>>> Not at all.  One of the truths you inescapably end up with is Gödel's
>>>> Theorem.  Either that, or the system is self-contradictory or too weak
>>>> to do anything at all.

>>> Gödel's theorem cannot possibly be recreated when
>>> True(x) is defined to apply truth preserving
>>> operations to basic facts.

>> On the contrary, whether or not True(x) can be so defined, Gödel's
>> theorem cannot be avoided.

>> [ .... ]

>>>> That would appear to be well beyond your level of understanding.  You
>>>> ought to show some respect towards those who do understand these things.

>>> I have spent 22 years focusing on pathological self-reference.
>>> My understanding really is deeper.

>> It might be a little deeper than it was, but that's not saying very much.
>> The concept of proof by contradiction, for example, is way beyond you.
>> Even the very idea of a mathematical proof, its status, its significance
>> is beyond you.  You don't even understand what it is you're lacking.

>> Those 22 years have been suboptimally spent.

>> As I said, you ought to show a bit of respect to those who understand
>> these mathematical things.

> So you don't understand that when True(x) is
> defined to only apply truth preserving operations
> to basic facts that are stipulated to be true
> that every input including random gibberish
> and self-contradiction IS DECIDABLE AS TRUE OR ~TRUE.

That's like being challenged by a young child to understand some detail
of his newest fantasy.  Except you're not a child, and ought to have an
adult's sense of proportion and reality, and a sense of your own
limitations.  You're lacking these.

> -- 
> Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
> hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).

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#117692

Fromolcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Date2025-05-06 09:43 -0500
Message-ID<vvd76e$34l9k$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#117653
On 5/6/2025 3:30 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> [ Followup-To: set ]
> 
> In comp.theory olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 5/5/2025 3:12 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>> olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 5/5/2025 2:34 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>>>> olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/5/2025 1:52 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>>>>>> olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 5/5/2025 1:19 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>>>>>>>> olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/5/2025 11:05 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> 
>>>>>>> [ .... ]
> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Follow the details of the proof of Gödel's Incompleteness
>>>>>>>>>>> Theorem, and apply them to your "system".  That will give you
>>>>>>>>>>> your counter example.
> 
>>>>>>>>>> My system does not do "provable" instead it does "provably true".
> 
>>>>>>>>> I don't know anything about your "system" and I don't care.  If
>>>>>>>>> it's a formal system with anything above minimal capabilities,
>>>>>>>>> Gödel's Theorem applies to it, and the "system" will be incomplete
>>>>>>>>> (in Gödel's sense).
> 
>>>>>>>> I reformulate the entire notion of "formal system"
>>>>>>>> so that undecidability ceases to be possible.
> 
>>>>>>> Liar.  That is impossible.
> 
>>>>>>> [ Irrelevant nonsense snipped. ]
> 
>>>>>> When you start with truth and only apply truth preserving
>>>>>> operations then you necessarily end up with truth.
>>>>>> Is that too difficult for you?
> 
>>>>> Not at all.  One of the truths you inescapably end up with is Gödel's
>>>>> Theorem.  Either that, or the system is self-contradictory or too weak
>>>>> to do anything at all.
> 
>>>> Gödel's theorem cannot possibly be recreated when
>>>> True(x) is defined to apply truth preserving
>>>> operations to basic facts.
> 
>>> On the contrary, whether or not True(x) can be so defined, Gödel's
>>> theorem cannot be avoided.
> 
>>> [ .... ]
> 
>>>>> That would appear to be well beyond your level of understanding.  You
>>>>> ought to show some respect towards those who do understand these things.
> 
>>>> I have spent 22 years focusing on pathological self-reference.
>>>> My understanding really is deeper.
> 
>>> It might be a little deeper than it was, but that's not saying very much.
>>> The concept of proof by contradiction, for example, is way beyond you.
>>> Even the very idea of a mathematical proof, its status, its significance
>>> is beyond you.  You don't even understand what it is you're lacking.
> 
>>> Those 22 years have been suboptimally spent.
> 
>>> As I said, you ought to show a bit of respect to those who understand
>>> these mathematical things.
> 
>> So you don't understand that when True(x) is
>> defined to only apply truth preserving operations
>> to basic facts that are stipulated to be true
>> that every input including random gibberish
>> and self-contradiction IS DECIDABLE AS TRUE OR ~TRUE.
> 
> That's like being challenged by a young child to understand some detail
> of his newest fantasy.  Except you're not a child, and ought to have an
> adult's sense of proportion and reality, and a sense of your own
> limitations.  You're lacking these.
> 

In other words you cannot possibly point out any actual mistake
because what I said is proven completely true entirely on the
basis of the meaning of its words.

When starting with truth and ONLY truth preserving operations
are applied ONLY truth (not undecidability) is derived.

If I was wrong then you could provide a counter-example.
Because I am correct no valid counter-example exists.

>> -- 
>> Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
>> hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer
> 


-- 
Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer

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#117778

FromRichard Damon <richard@damon-family.org>
Date2025-05-06 21:57 -0400
Message-ID<d6de98fad66f06841483f18dba40b048f455da75@i2pn2.org>
In reply to#117692
On 5/6/25 10:43 AM, olcott wrote:
> On 5/6/2025 3:30 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>> [ Followup-To: set ]
>>
>> In comp.theory olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 5/5/2025 3:12 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>>> olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 5/5/2025 2:34 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>>>>> olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/5/2025 1:52 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>>>>>>> olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 5/5/2025 1:19 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/5/2025 11:05 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>> [ .... ]
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Follow the details of the proof of Gödel's Incompleteness
>>>>>>>>>>>> Theorem, and apply them to your "system".  That will give you
>>>>>>>>>>>> your counter example.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> My system does not do "provable" instead it does "provably 
>>>>>>>>>>> true".
>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don't know anything about your "system" and I don't care.  If
>>>>>>>>>> it's a formal system with anything above minimal capabilities,
>>>>>>>>>> Gödel's Theorem applies to it, and the "system" will be 
>>>>>>>>>> incomplete
>>>>>>>>>> (in Gödel's sense).
>>
>>>>>>>>> I reformulate the entire notion of "formal system"
>>>>>>>>> so that undecidability ceases to be possible.
>>
>>>>>>>> Liar.  That is impossible.
>>
>>>>>>>> [ Irrelevant nonsense snipped. ]
>>
>>>>>>> When you start with truth and only apply truth preserving
>>>>>>> operations then you necessarily end up with truth.
>>>>>>> Is that too difficult for you?
>>
>>>>>> Not at all.  One of the truths you inescapably end up with is Gödel's
>>>>>> Theorem.  Either that, or the system is self-contradictory or too 
>>>>>> weak
>>>>>> to do anything at all.
>>
>>>>> Gödel's theorem cannot possibly be recreated when
>>>>> True(x) is defined to apply truth preserving
>>>>> operations to basic facts.
>>
>>>> On the contrary, whether or not True(x) can be so defined, Gödel's
>>>> theorem cannot be avoided.
>>
>>>> [ .... ]
>>
>>>>>> That would appear to be well beyond your level of understanding.  You
>>>>>> ought to show some respect towards those who do understand these 
>>>>>> things.
>>
>>>>> I have spent 22 years focusing on pathological self-reference.
>>>>> My understanding really is deeper.
>>
>>>> It might be a little deeper than it was, but that's not saying very 
>>>> much.
>>>> The concept of proof by contradiction, for example, is way beyond you.
>>>> Even the very idea of a mathematical proof, its status, its 
>>>> significance
>>>> is beyond you.  You don't even understand what it is you're lacking.
>>
>>>> Those 22 years have been suboptimally spent.
>>
>>>> As I said, you ought to show a bit of respect to those who understand
>>>> these mathematical things.
>>
>>> So you don't understand that when True(x) is
>>> defined to only apply truth preserving operations
>>> to basic facts that are stipulated to be true
>>> that every input including random gibberish
>>> and self-contradiction IS DECIDABLE AS TRUE OR ~TRUE.
>>
>> That's like being challenged by a young child to understand some detail
>> of his newest fantasy.  Except you're not a child, and ought to have an
>> adult's sense of proportion and reality, and a sense of your own
>> limitations.  You're lacking these.
>>
> 
> In other words you cannot possibly point out any actual mistake
> because what I said is proven completely true entirely on the
> basis of the meaning of its words.

No, the problem is you don't understand the meaning of the words you 
use, which HAVE a defined meaning in the field, which differ from how 
you are using it, and thus you are just spouting nonsense.

> 
> When starting with truth and ONLY truth preserving operations
> are applied ONLY truth (not undecidability) is derived.

Wrong, undecidability does come. I think you don't understand what that 
means. It doesn't mean a statement that can be neigther true or false, 
but a statement we can not decide on its truth value, but it has one.

> 
> If I was wrong then you could provide a counter-example.
> Because I am correct no valid counter-example exists.

Godel' G.

That there does not exist a natural number g that satifies the 
particular primative recursive relationship that was create in the 
meta-math.

This statement can be proven in the meta-math, but not in the base 
system, but is still true there, established by an INFINITE series of 
truth preserving operations.

Something you have shown yourself to stupid to understand,

Go ahead, try to show how that statement is NOT undecidable in the base 
system.

> 
>>> -- 
>>> Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
>>> hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer
>>
> 
> 

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#117671

Fromjoes <noreply@example.org>
Date2025-05-06 10:04 +0000
Message-ID<eb8abe33ea9ae6ee3d02c22974a73e5559c0400f@i2pn2.org>
In reply to#117561
Am Mon, 05 May 2025 14:22:58 -0500 schrieb olcott:
> On 5/5/2025 1:52 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>> olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 5/5/2025 1:19 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>>> olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 5/5/2025 11:05 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>> 
>>>>>> Follow the details of the proof of Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem,
>>>>>> and apply them to your "system".  That will give you your counter
>>>>>> example.
>> 
>>>>> My system does not do "provable" instead it does "provably true".
>> 
>>>> I don't know anything about your "system" and I don't care.  If it's
>>>> a formal system with anything above minimal capabilities, Gödel's
>>>> Theorem applies to it, and the "system" will be incomplete (in
>>>> Gödel's sense).
>> 
>>> I reformulate the entire notion of "formal system"
>>> so that undecidability ceases to be possible.
>> 
>> Liar.  That is impossible.
>> 
> When you start with truth and only apply truth preserving operations
> then you necessarily end up with truth.
Truth such as Gödel's undecidability theorem, but not all truths.

-- 
Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math:
It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.

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#117705

Fromolcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Date2025-05-06 12:14 -0500
Message-ID<vvdg0s$3cbpq$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#117671
On 5/6/2025 5:04 AM, joes wrote:
> Am Mon, 05 May 2025 14:22:58 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>> On 5/5/2025 1:52 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>> olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 5/5/2025 1:19 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>>>> olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/5/2025 11:05 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> Follow the details of the proof of Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem,
>>>>>>> and apply them to your "system".  That will give you your counter
>>>>>>> example.
>>>
>>>>>> My system does not do "provable" instead it does "provably true".
>>>
>>>>> I don't know anything about your "system" and I don't care.  If it's
>>>>> a formal system with anything above minimal capabilities, Gödel's
>>>>> Theorem applies to it, and the "system" will be incomplete (in
>>>>> Gödel's sense).
>>>
>>>> I reformulate the entire notion of "formal system"
>>>> so that undecidability ceases to be possible.
>>>
>>> Liar.  That is impossible.
>>>
>> When you start with truth and only apply truth preserving operations
>> then you necessarily end up with truth.
> Truth such as Gödel's undecidability theorem, but not all truths.
> 

The entire body of all general knowledge that can be
expressed using language is included in the system
that I propose.

Undecidability cannot possibly occur in any system
that ONLY derives True(x) by applying truth preserving
operations to basic facts that are stipulated to be true.

LP = "This sentence is not true."
True(LP) == FALSE
True(~LP) == FALSE
Proves that LP is not a valid proposition with a truth value.

-- 
Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer

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#117779

FromRichard Damon <richard@damon-family.org>
Date2025-05-06 22:01 -0400
Message-ID<8a9293a218de93695def84151f91356ca4c8ea86@i2pn2.org>
In reply to#117705
On 5/6/25 1:14 PM, olcott wrote:
> On 5/6/2025 5:04 AM, joes wrote:
>> Am Mon, 05 May 2025 14:22:58 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>> On 5/5/2025 1:52 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>>> olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 5/5/2025 1:19 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>>>>> olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/5/2025 11:05 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Follow the details of the proof of Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem,
>>>>>>>> and apply them to your "system".  That will give you your counter
>>>>>>>> example.
>>>>
>>>>>>> My system does not do "provable" instead it does "provably true".
>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know anything about your "system" and I don't care.  If it's
>>>>>> a formal system with anything above minimal capabilities, Gödel's
>>>>>> Theorem applies to it, and the "system" will be incomplete (in
>>>>>> Gödel's sense).
>>>>
>>>>> I reformulate the entire notion of "formal system"
>>>>> so that undecidability ceases to be possible.
>>>>
>>>> Liar.  That is impossible.
>>>>
>>> When you start with truth and only apply truth preserving operations
>>> then you necessarily end up with truth.
>> Truth such as Gödel's undecidability theorem, but not all truths.
>>
> 
> The entire body of all general knowledge that can be
> expressed using language is included in the system
> that I propose.

Nope. because that can not be expressed as a finite list by what you say 
is your logic operations.

The problem is you claim to have all the mathematics, so all the 
statements of x + y = (x+y), but your "logic" seems to reject the 
operations that allow this to be reduced to a finite number of axioms.

> 
> Undecidability cannot possibly occur in any system
> that ONLY derives True(x) by applying truth preserving
> operations to basic facts that are stipulated to be true.

Only because your system doesn't do what you claim. if it can support 
Mathematics, it has Godel's proof and thus true statements that can not 
be proven, as truth can come from infinite sequences, but Proof and 
decidability can not.

> 
> LP = "This sentence is not true."
> True(LP) == FALSE
> True(~LP) == FALSE
> Proves that LP is not a valid proposition with a truth value.
> 

So?

You keep on bringing this up which just shows you don't know what you 
are talking about.

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