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| Started by | "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> |
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| First post | 2016-06-09 14:47 +0100 |
| Last post | 2016-06-13 19:06 +0100 |
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Direct digital I/O ? "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-09 14:47 +0100
Re: Direct digital I/O ? GlowingBlueMist <GlowingBlueMist@blackhole.io> - 2016-06-09 11:22 -0500
Re: Direct digital I/O ? "Dave Liquorice" <allsortsnotthisbit@howhill.com> - 2016-06-09 19:56 +0100
Re: Direct digital I/O ? Paul <paul@pcserviceselectronics.co.uk> - 2016-06-10 19:55 +0100
Re: Direct digital I/O ? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2016-06-10 22:27 +0000
Re: Direct digital I/O ? mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> - 2016-06-11 07:45 +0100
Re: Direct digital I/O ? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2016-06-11 08:37 +0000
Re: Direct digital I/O ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2016-06-11 09:41 +0100
Re: Direct digital I/O ? "Dave Liquorice" <allsortsnotthisbit@howhill.com> - 2016-06-11 11:17 +0100
Re: Direct digital I/O ? Paul <paul@pcserviceselectronics.co.uk> - 2016-06-11 14:00 +0100
Re: Direct digital I/O ? cb@elaine.df.lth.se (Christian Brunschen) - 2016-06-11 16:12 +0000
Re: Direct digital I/O ? Paul <paul@pcserviceselectronics.co.uk> - 2016-06-12 22:00 +0100
Re: Direct digital I/O ? cb@elaine.df.lth.se (Christian Brunschen) - 2016-06-12 22:40 +0000
Re: Direct digital I/O ? Paul <paul@pcserviceselectronics.co.uk> - 2016-06-13 11:02 +0100
Re: Direct digital I/O ? Paul <paul@pcserviceselectronics.co.uk> - 2016-06-12 22:04 +0100
Re: Direct digital I/O ? Paul <paul@pcserviceselectronics.co.uk> - 2016-06-11 13:49 +0100
Re: Direct digital I/O ? Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2016-06-11 09:23 +0000
Re: Direct digital I/O ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-06-11 10:47 +0100
Re: Direct digital I/O ? Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-11 12:46 -0400
Re: Direct digital I/O ? mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> - 2016-06-12 09:20 +0100
Re: Direct digital I/O ? Michael J. Mahon <mjmahon@aol.com> - 2016-06-12 11:07 -0500
Re: Direct digital I/O ? andrew@cucumber.demon.co.uk (Andrew Gabriel) - 2016-06-12 16:13 +0000
Re: Direct digital I/O ? jeffj@panix.com (Jeff Jonas) - 2016-07-01 20:39 -0400
Re: Direct digital I/O ? "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-07-02 10:40 +0100
Re: Direct digital I/O ? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2016-07-02 13:55 +0000
Re: Direct digital I/O ? Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2016-07-02 19:22 +0300
Re: Direct digital I/O ? "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-07-02 17:47 +0100
Re: Direct digital I/O ? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2016-07-02 17:07 +0000
Re: Direct digital I/O ? Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2016-07-02 21:30 +0300
Re: Direct digital I/O ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2016-07-02 19:35 +0100
Re: Direct digital I/O ? Dave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2016-07-02 19:43 +0100
Re: Direct digital I/O ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2016-07-02 20:07 +0100
Re: Direct digital I/O ? andrew@cucumber.demon.co.uk (Andrew Gabriel) - 2016-07-03 18:59 +0000
Re: Direct digital I/O ? "Ivan D. Reid" <Ivan.Reid@ivan.fsnet.co.uk> - 2016-07-03 19:15 +0000
Re: Direct digital I/O ? "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-13 14:23 +0100
Re: Direct digital I/O ? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2016-06-13 14:13 +0000
Re: Direct digital I/O ? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2016-06-13 15:09 +0000
Re: Direct digital I/O ? "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-13 17:48 +0100
Re: Direct digital I/O ? mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> - 2016-06-13 17:45 +0100
Re: Direct digital I/O ? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2016-06-13 17:04 +0000
Re: Direct digital I/O ? "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-13 19:13 +0100
Re: Direct digital I/O ? "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-13 17:47 +0100
Re: Direct digital I/O ? Paul <paul@pcserviceselectronics.co.uk> - 2016-06-13 17:49 +0100
Re: Direct digital I/O ? "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-13 19:07 +0100
Re: Direct digital I/O ? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-06-13 14:25 -0400
Re: Direct digital I/O ? "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-13 19:45 +0100
Re: Direct digital I/O ? Jim H <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-06-13 20:14 +0000
Re: Direct digital I/O ? "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-14 09:38 +0100
Re: Direct digital I/O ? "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-13 19:57 +0100
Re: Direct digital I/O ? Mike Fleming <{mike}@tauzero.co.uk> - 2016-06-14 10:48 +0100
Re: Direct digital I/O ? "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-14 11:41 +0100
Re: Direct digital I/O ? "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-14 11:48 +0100
Re: Direct digital I/O ? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-06-14 20:24 -0400
Re: Direct digital I/O ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2016-06-15 08:13 +0100
Re: Direct digital I/O ? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-06-15 03:26 -0400
Re: Direct digital I/O ? "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-15 08:54 +0100
Re: Direct digital I/O ? AndyW <Andy@nojunqmail.com> - 2016-06-15 16:48 +0100
Re: Direct digital I/O ? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2016-06-15 21:02 +0000
Re: Direct digital I/O ? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2016-06-15 11:21 +0000
Re: Direct digital I/O ? "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-15 16:21 +0100
Re: Direct digital I/O ? "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-15 08:52 +0100
Re: Direct digital I/O ? Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-06-15 18:57 +1000
Re: Direct digital I/O ? "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-15 10:28 +0100
Re: Direct digital I/O ? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-06-15 10:57 -0400
Re: Direct digital I/O ? "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-15 16:23 +0100
Re: Direct digital I/O ? Paul <paul@pcserviceselectronics.co.uk> - 2016-06-15 16:46 +0100
Re: Direct digital I/O ? "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-15 17:04 +0100
Re: Direct digital I/O ? Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com> - 2016-06-15 17:43 +0100
Re: Direct digital I/O ? "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-15 20:57 +0100
Re: Direct digital I/O ? Paul <paul@pcserviceselectronics.co.uk> - 2016-06-13 17:46 +0100
Re: Direct digital I/O ? "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-13 19:06 +0100
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| From | "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-06-13 19:13 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <njmt47$ui1$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #11725 |
"Martin Gregorie" <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> wrote in message news:njmp2s$dl6$1@dont-email.me... > On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 17:45:05 +0100, mm0fmf wrote: > >> On 13/06/2016 15:13, Martin Gregorie wrote: >>> I suppose you realise that in a RPi >> >> He spends his life trolling in uk.r.a. and other groups Martin. > > OK, thanks. I think a plonking is in order. In 22 years of subscribing to Usenet, I have never trolled, but discuss those things that interest me. In so doing, I pick up a number of abusive ignoramuses who do not understand that which I talk about, or else blindly quote from their textbooks but without their thinking caps on. Your PP has long been in my KF for being gratuitously abusive, and his interjection quoted above fully justifies that KF presence, so it would seem. Martin, are you, too, to become a deliberately ignorant abuser, or would you prefer to stay and discuss a developing technical thread; even were that thread to move in directions in which you lack experience?
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| From | "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-06-13 17:47 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <njmo28$a8h$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #11715 |
"Martin Gregorie" <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> wrote in message news:njmf2v$kqf$1@dont-email.me... > On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 14:23:57 +0100, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote: >> I had in mind a miniscult monitor program, with NMI being driven from >> the ersatz Halt switch, and to use the built-in debug instructions to >> perform single stepping. >> > I suppose you realise that in a RPi the GPU is started first and it in > turn executes the first stage bootstrap, which in turn loads and boots > the Linux kernel? That means you'll need to persuade the first stage > bootstrap to load your monitor and then load the Linux kernel above it at > a modified address so it doesn't overwrite your monitor? It loads whatever it finds on your SD card which most certainly will not be Linux if Linux ain't there. There won't be any Linux in what I have in mind. > Doing that will almost certainly need access to proprietary information, > so think license fees and NDA agreements, and you're still stuck with the > problem of connecting switches and LEDs to a series of 32 bit wide items > (address bus, data bus and registers). Doing something that I enjoy and for which I am well qualified is not something I'd criticise as being stuck with. Handling the blinkenlights is an ideal opening for a Pi Zero. > I have experience of using similar switches and lamps on a 24 bit word- > based bigendian mainframe. It was hard enough to get the settings right > on that, but attempting the same trick on a little-endian 32-bit system > seems like the perfect recipe for data entry mistakes. Never found it to be a problem. Little Endian is god-given. Big Endian is the work of the devil. > I've also written my own monitor for a 8/16 bit 6809, also a bigendian > architecture. It never occurred to me to work at the bitstring level on > that because inputting and reading hex via screen and keyboard was so > much easier to use. Switch register is also there as an I/O facility, as with the OSR bit in the PDP8 OP instructions. If I wanted hex input, then wouldn't need thecomplexity of screen and keyboard; would do it via Morse (Really "Vail") Code.
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| From | Paul <paul@pcserviceselectronics.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2016-06-13 17:49 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.31c8f48a6c0a39f5989801@172.16.0.1> |
| In reply to | #11714 |
In article <njmc5g$iip$1@dont-email.me>, no.spam@thank.you.invalid says... > > "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> wrote in message > news:njbs2a$96b$1@dont-email.me... > > Inspired by Oscar Vermeulen's emulations of PDP8 and PDP11 front > > panels (I've used both processors, in my time over the past 40 years) > > but as yet inexperienced in the RPi world (despite getting Pi1 2 > > years ago and Pi2 one year ago :-( ), I'd like to consider > > producing a similar front panel low-level access for the RPi itself. > > Is anyone aware of direct digital I/O facilities for the RPi, ie, in > > not going via the I2C bus? > > Or, even an I/O bus creation facility, perhaps much along the lines > > of the PDP8's Omnibus? > > Also, what of interfacing a hard disk into the SD card slot.? > > Apologies if I have posed these questions before, for it > > always takes me many months to come to a definite decision; > > never put off till tomorrow what you can put off till the day after :-) > > Interesting that the above has fomented a lot of negative thinking > and defeatism, and, for the moaners in those categories, yes, I > agree wholeheartedly, that it wouldn't work out for you. > > I had in mind a miniscult monitor program, with NMI being > driven from the ersatz Halt switch, and to use the built-in > debug instructions to perform single stepping. Forgot to say your > > Also, what of interfacing a hard disk into the SD card slot.? Is akin to connecting the water inlets of a washing machine to the gas mains. They operate differently and use different interfaces and different software drivers. Even on PDP-8's and similar they would have different interface cards just like serial interfaces, disk drives, printers etc on any system. -- Paul Carpenter | paul@pcserviceselectronics.co.uk <http://www.pcserviceselectronics.co.uk/> PC Services <http://www.pcserviceselectronics.co.uk/pi/> Raspberry Pi Add-ons <http://www.pcserviceselectronics.co.uk/fonts/> Timing Diagram Font <http://www.badweb.org.uk/> For those web sites you hate
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| From | "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-06-13 19:07 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <njmspq$t3q$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #11723 |
"Paul" <paul@pcserviceselectronics.co.uk> wrote in message news:MPG.31c8f48a6c0a39f5989801@172.16.0.1... >> "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> wrote in message >> news:njbs2a$96b$1@dont-email.me... > >> > Also, what of interfacing a hard disk into the SD card slot.? > > Is akin to connecting the water inlets of a washing machine to the > gas mains. They operate differently and use different interfaces > and different software drivers. > > Even on PDP-8's and similar they would have different interface cards > just like serial interfaces, disk drives, printers etc on any system. I get the impression that you might, just, lack either experience or knowledge of which end of a soldering iron to hold?
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| From | rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-13 14:25 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Direct digital I/O ? |
| Message-ID | <njmtr1$g4$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #11723 |
On 6/13/2016 12:49 PM, Paul wrote: > In article <njmc5g$iip$1@dont-email.me>, no.spam@thank.you.invalid > says... >> >> "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> wrote in message >> news:njbs2a$96b$1@dont-email.me... >>> Inspired by Oscar Vermeulen's emulations of PDP8 and PDP11 front >>> panels (I've used both processors, in my time over the past 40 years) >>> but as yet inexperienced in the RPi world (despite getting Pi1 2 >>> years ago and Pi2 one year ago :-( ), I'd like to consider >>> producing a similar front panel low-level access for the RPi itself. >>> Is anyone aware of direct digital I/O facilities for the RPi, ie, in >>> not going via the I2C bus? >>> Or, even an I/O bus creation facility, perhaps much along the lines >>> of the PDP8's Omnibus? >>> Also, what of interfacing a hard disk into the SD card slot.? >>> Apologies if I have posed these questions before, for it >>> always takes me many months to come to a definite decision; >>> never put off till tomorrow what you can put off till the day after :-) >> >> Interesting that the above has fomented a lot of negative thinking >> and defeatism, and, for the moaners in those categories, yes, I >> agree wholeheartedly, that it wouldn't work out for you. >> >> I had in mind a miniscult monitor program, with NMI being >> driven from the ersatz Halt switch, and to use the built-in >> debug instructions to perform single stepping. > > Forgot to say your > >>> Also, what of interfacing a hard disk into the SD card slot.? > > Is akin to connecting the water inlets of a washing machine to the > gas mains. They operate differently and use different interfaces > and different software drivers. > > Even on PDP-8's and similar they would have different interface cards > just like serial interfaces, disk drives, printers etc on any system. I see the guy is giving you a hard time. He really is a troll and the best thing to do is to *totally* ignore him. Don't respond even to tell him you are ignoring him. I don't think that is going to happen in this group, but it would be for the best. -- Rick C
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| From | "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-06-13 19:45 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Direct digital I/O ? |
| Message-ID | <njmv02$6c0$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #11729 |
"rickman" <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote in message news:njmtr1$g4$1@dont-email.me... > > I see the guy is giving you a hard time. He really is a troll and the > best thing to do is to *totally* ignore him. Don't respond even to tell > him you are ignoring him. I don't think that is going to happen in this > group, but it would be for the best. I'm not giving anybody a hard time and I am not trolling. Perhaps you should refer your readers to the NG rec.radio.amateur.antenna wherein I tried to explore antennae theory beyond what is stated in the textbook and how you and your ilk became abusive? It seems that being intellectually explorative is not accepted practice amongst the lumpen proletariat of Usenet who cannot merely ignore things that they do not understand or feel uncomfortable about discussing and must resort to personal abusive ad hominem attacks such as you do above? Why do you behave like that? -----ooooo----- Now, if you, or indeed, anyone else, does not want to discuss the exciting (to me. at least) the low-level operation of the 64 bit ARM architecture, then it is probably for the better, as you suggest above, that you ignore the threads or even KF me rather than hijacking the thread to vent your spleen in attacks. I am quite happy that the deliberately ignorant and the gratuitously abusive should ignore me.
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| From | Jim H <invalid@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-06-13 20:14 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Direct digital I/O ? |
| Message-ID | <2u4ulb9dof3ohai3i4d11jslfij3aj8aev@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #11731 |
On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 19:45:18 +0100, in <njmv02$6c0$1@dont-email.me>, "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> wrote: >It seems that being intellectually explorative is not accepted practice >amongst the lumpen proletariat of Usenet who cannot merely ignore >things that they do not understand or feel uncomfortable about discussing >and must resort to personal abusive ad hominem attacks such as you do above? You are "intellectually explorative" in the same sense that a small child on a 1,000 mile car trip asking "are we there yet" every mile is "intellectuallly explorative." -- Jim H
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| From | "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-06-14 09:38 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Direct digital I/O ? |
| Message-ID | <njofqp$uat$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #11736 |
"Jim H" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:2u4ulb9dof3ohai3i4d11jslfij3aj8aev@4ax.com... > On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 19:45:18 +0100, in <njmv02$6c0$1@dont-email.me>, > "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> wrote: > >>It seems that being intellectually explorative is not accepted practice >>amongst the lumpen proletariat of Usenet who cannot merely ignore >>things that they do not understand or feel uncomfortable about discussing >>and must resort to personal abusive ad hominem attacks such as you do >>above? > > You are "intellectually explorative" in the same sense that a small > child on a 1,000 mile car trip asking "are we there yet" every mile is > "intellectuallly explorative." A prime example of, "the lumpen proletariat of Usenet who ... must resort to personal abusive ad hominem attacks", perhaps?
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| From | "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-06-13 19:57 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Direct digital I/O ? |
| Message-ID | <njmvm0$8us$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #11729 |
"rickman" <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote in message news:njmtr1$g4$1@dont-email.me... > I see the guy is giving you a hard time. He really is a troll and the > best thing to do is to *totally* ignore him. Don't respond even to tell > him you are ignoring him. I don't think that is going to happen in this > group, but it would be for the best. Why not put your money where your mouth is and give examples of where you say that I have trolled? Cue : strategic disappearance by Rickman
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| From | Mike Fleming <{mike}@tauzero.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2016-06-14 10:48 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Direct digital I/O ? |
| Message-ID | <dhkvlb14cq5gtjfmbe9ieo51p5tikitqm1@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #11732 |
In article <njmvm0$8us$1@dont-email.me>, "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> writes: > "rickman" <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:njmtr1$g4$1@dont-email.me... > > I see the guy is giving you a hard time. He really is a troll and the > > best thing to do is to *totally* ignore him. Don't respond even to tell > > him you are ignoring him. I don't think that is going to happen in this > > group, but it would be for the best. > > Why not put your money where your mouth is and give examples of where > you say that I have trolled? You have persistently trolled on uk.net.news.config and uk.net.news.management, where you are one of the most universally despised and hated posters. I see your ambition has increased. -- Mike Fleming
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| From | "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-06-14 11:41 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Direct digital I/O ? |
| Message-ID | <njon0d$lr9$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #11775 |
"Mike Fleming" <{mike}@tauzero.co.uk> wrote in message
news:dhkvlb14cq5gtjfmbe9ieo51p5tikitqm1@4ax.com...
> In article <njmvm0$8us$1@dont-email.me>, "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339"
> <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> writes:
>
>> "rickman" <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:njmtr1$g4$1@dont-email.me...
>> > I see the guy is giving you a hard time. He really is a troll and the
>> > best thing to do is to *totally* ignore him. Don't respond even to
>> > tell
>> > him you are ignoring him. I don't think that is going to happen in
>> > this
>> > group, but it would be for the best.
>>
>> Why not put your money where your mouth is and give examples of where
>> you say that I have trolled?
>
> You have persistently trolled on uk.net.news.config and
> uk.net.news.management, where you are one of the most universally
> despised and hated posters. I see your ambition has increased.
Why not put your money where your mouth is and give examples of where
you say that I have trolled?
I note that, as before, you resort to childish outbursts in the manner of a
5-year-old.
Shame on you.
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| From | "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-06-14 11:48 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Direct digital I/O ? |
| Message-ID | <njondf$n8t$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #11781 |
"gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> wrote in message
news:njon0d$lr9$1@dont-email.me...
> "Mike Fleming" <{mike}@tauzero.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:dhkvlb14cq5gtjfmbe9ieo51p5tikitqm1@4ax.com...
>> In article <njmvm0$8us$1@dont-email.me>, "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339"
>> <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> writes:
>>> "rickman" <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:njmtr1$g4$1@dont-email.me...
>>> > I see the guy is giving you a hard time. He really is a troll and the
>>> > best thing to do is to *totally* ignore him. Don't respond even to
>>> > tell
>>> > him you are ignoring him. I don't think that is going to happen in
>>> > this
>>> > group, but it would be for the best.
>>> Why not put your money where your mouth is and give examples of where
>>> you say that I have trolled?
>> You have persistently trolled on uk.net.news.config and
>> uk.net.news.management, where you are one of the most universally
>> despised and hated posters. I see your ambition has increased.
> Why not put your money where your mouth is and give examples of where
> you say that I have trolled?
> I note that, as before, you resort to childish outbursts in the manner of
> a 5-year-old.
> Shame on you.
Strange the number of social misfits who do not join the discussion but
use it as an excuse to vent their own spleens, blaming me instead of
taking responsibility for their own behaviours as any well adjusted
adult should so do.
It is a most regrettable aspect of Usenet the number of silly billies
who use it as a vehicle for shouting abuse.
A pox on them and their families.
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| From | rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-14 20:24 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Direct digital I/O ? |
| Message-ID | <njq770$ao1$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #11775 |
On 6/14/2016 5:48 AM, Mike Fleming wrote: > In article <njmvm0$8us$1@dont-email.me>, "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" > <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> writes: > >> "rickman" <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:njmtr1$g4$1@dont-email.me... >>> I see the guy is giving you a hard time. He really is a troll and the >>> best thing to do is to *totally* ignore him. Don't respond even to tell >>> him you are ignoring him. I don't think that is going to happen in this >>> group, but it would be for the best. >> >> Why not put your money where your mouth is and give examples of where >> you say that I have trolled? > > You have persistently trolled on uk.net.news.config and > uk.net.news.management, where you are one of the most universally > despised and hated posters. I see your ambition has increased. I am really sorry to see the infection has spread to comp.sys.raspberry-pi. I hope that people here can see how important it is to not respond to trolls. This guy has ruined a number of groups. -- Rick C
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-06-15 08:13 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Direct digital I/O ? |
| Message-ID | <njqv5i$k0$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #11860 |
On 15/06/16 01:24, rickman wrote: > On 6/14/2016 5:48 AM, Mike Fleming wrote: >> In article <njmvm0$8us$1@dont-email.me>, "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" >> <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> writes: >> >>> "rickman" <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:njmtr1$g4$1@dont-email.me... >>>> I see the guy is giving you a hard time. He really is a troll and the >>>> best thing to do is to *totally* ignore him. Don't respond even to >>>> tell >>>> him you are ignoring him. I don't think that is going to happen in >>>> this >>>> group, but it would be for the best. >>> >>> Why not put your money where your mouth is and give examples of where >>> you say that I have trolled? >> >> You have persistently trolled on uk.net.news.config and >> uk.net.news.management, where you are one of the most universally >> despised and hated posters. I see your ambition has increased. > > I am really sorry to see the infection has spread to > comp.sys.raspberry-pi. I hope that people here can see how important it > is to not respond to trolls. This guy has ruined a number of groups. > Well, we all know how to set up a filter or killfile don't we? If not, start a topic... -- Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas? Josef Stalin
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| From | rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-15 03:26 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Direct digital I/O ? |
| Message-ID | <njr000$5ss$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #11866 |
On 6/15/2016 3:13 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 15/06/16 01:24, rickman wrote: >> On 6/14/2016 5:48 AM, Mike Fleming wrote: >>> In article <njmvm0$8us$1@dont-email.me>, "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" >>> <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> writes: >>> >>>> "rickman" <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:njmtr1$g4$1@dont-email.me... >>>>> I see the guy is giving you a hard time. He really is a troll and the >>>>> best thing to do is to *totally* ignore him. Don't respond even to >>>>> tell >>>>> him you are ignoring him. I don't think that is going to happen in >>>>> this >>>>> group, but it would be for the best. >>>> >>>> Why not put your money where your mouth is and give examples of where >>>> you say that I have trolled? >>> >>> You have persistently trolled on uk.net.news.config and >>> uk.net.news.management, where you are one of the most universally >>> despised and hated posters. I see your ambition has increased. >> >> I am really sorry to see the infection has spread to >> comp.sys.raspberry-pi. I hope that people here can see how important it >> is to not respond to trolls. This guy has ruined a number of groups. >> > Well, we all know how to set up a filter or killfile don't we? > > If not, start a topic... Or maybe he will fit in nicely here... -- Rick C
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| From | "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-06-15 08:54 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Direct digital I/O ? |
| Message-ID | <njr1kb$b2u$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #11867 |
"rickman" <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote in message news:njr000$5ss$1@dont-email.me... > > Or maybe he will fit in nicely here... I fit in nicely everywhere, but it is those such as yourself who cannot discuss withiout resorting to personal remarks who are the real problem. In all 22 years of using Usenet, I have never been the originator of personal remarks, but being only human, on rare occasions I have risen to the bait and responded indignantly as, indeed, I do here.
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| From | AndyW <Andy@nojunqmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-15 16:48 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Direct digital I/O ? |
| Message-ID | <JNe8z.2057085$_n6.673761@fx35.am4> |
| In reply to | #11872 |
On 15/06/2016 08:54, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote: > In all 22 years of using Usenet, I have never been the originator of > personal > remarks, but being only human, on rare occasions I have risen > to the bait and responded indignantly as, indeed, I do here. Splendid does that mean that you will be issuing a retraction and an apology for you out-of-the-blue personal attack on me when you accused me of being a murder and baby killer and then followed it up with accusation that I was a 5th columnist and traitor in the army. "Another warmonger aiding and abetting the murderous invasion of Afghanistan, and thus no different to the Germans invading of Europe in the 1930s and 1940s " https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.radio.amateur.misc/7pbw5EstLxY/3-lVjTbnOPMJ > and where did I make any claim whatsoever that I was fighting for freedom. > or indeed fighting at all? Anybody who aids and abets the killing of Afghanis in their own country, especially the burning to death of women and children by indiscriminate drone attacks, has as much blood staining their hands as though they had fired off the fatal devices. The same goes for so-called conscientious objectors who drive ambulances in battlefields, for they are aiding and abetting the warfare. <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.radio.amateur.misc/7pbw5EstLxY/JlArDZxMtwIJ> You actively and willingly partake in campaigns to kill your fellow man in lands across the sea in order to feed your family? So much for your morals. <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.radio.amateur.misc/7pbw5EstLxY/5j_ASfNQ_84J> Is the army aware that they have you as a fifth columnist in their ranks? <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.radio.amateur.misc/7pbw5EstLxY/T9GpTRPCniwJ> and then this one <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.radio.amateur.misc/7pbw5EstLxY/cVuIrH3kaMEJ> Just for the record I was never in the army but I was in the cub scouts in the 1970 but even back then they were not a seriously militant organisation, I cannot recall their list of battle honours but I'm guessing that it will be quite short. And below are the posts where Gareth actually posted evidence that I was in the army. <tumbleweed> And below all the posts where he has posted evidence that I initiate abuse against him... <tumbleweed> Google is your friend people. He is a troll and his modus operandi is to make a seemingly neutral post and then launch attacks and snide remarks at those who reply and when they respond will be full of righteous indignation. ...and then it all ends up like this: "Amateur radio enthusiast Gareth Evans has been given a three-year conditional discharge after he emailed a school to say one of its teachers was a pornographer and a danger to children. The teacher, Brian Reay, was also a ham radio enthusiast and the two men met over an internet forum for fans of the hobby." "He described how he was called in to the deputy headteacher’s office after an email allegedly entitled, “is a pornographer loose in your school?” was sent to three high-ranking members of staff." http://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk/news/towns/chippenhamheadlines/9317744.Porn_slur_leads_to_dock/
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| From | Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-06-15 21:02 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Direct digital I/O ? |
| Message-ID | <njsfph$3rg$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #11936 |
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 16:48:57 +0100, AndyW wrote: You're well off topic here AND feeding a troll. ONE -- martin@ | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org |
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| From | Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-06-15 11:21 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Direct digital I/O ? |
| Message-ID | <njrdna$5mp$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #11867 |
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 03:26:54 -0400, rickman wrote: > On 6/15/2016 3:13 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 15/06/16 01:24, rickman wrote: >>> On 6/14/2016 5:48 AM, Mike Fleming wrote: >>>> In article <njmvm0$8us$1@dont-email.me>, "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" >>>> <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> writes: >>>> >>>>> "rickman" <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:njmtr1$g4$1@dont-email.me... >>>>>> I see the guy is giving you a hard time. He really is a troll and >>>>>> the best thing to do is to *totally* ignore him. Don't respond >>>>>> even to tell him you are ignoring him. I don't think that is going >>>>>> to happen in this group, but it would be for the best. >>>>> >>>>> Why not put your money where your mouth is and give examples of >>>>> where you say that I have trolled? >>>> >>>> You have persistently trolled on uk.net.news.config and >>>> uk.net.news.management, where you are one of the most universally >>>> despised and hated posters. I see your ambition has increased. >>> >>> I am really sorry to see the infection has spread to >>> comp.sys.raspberry-pi. I hope that people here can see how important >>> it is to not respond to trolls. This guy has ruined a number of >>> groups. >>> >> Well, we all know how to set up a filter or killfile don't we? >> >> If not, start a topic... > > Or maybe he will fit in nicely here... Serious point: by using something like Google Groups, which don't AFAIK have filtering or killfile facilities, to read newsgroups you make trolls lives easier because you don't have the facilities to make them invisible. I killfiled the troll a few days ago and, according to Pan stats, thats 10-20 posts I don't see each day. Result! -- martin@ | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org |
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| From | "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-06-15 16:21 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Direct digital I/O ? |
| Message-ID | <njrrq1$bjk$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #11903 |
"Martin Gregorie" <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> wrote in message news:njrdna$5mp$4@dont-email.me... > > I killfiled the troll a few days ago and, according to Pan stats, thats > 10-20 posts I don't see each day. Result! I'm not aware that there have been any trolls in the Pi group recently. To whom do you refer?
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