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  Recommended Newsreaders RRansil <ransil@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-22 11:28 -0700
    Re: Recommended Newsreaders ray carter <ray@zianet.com> - 2015-08-22 18:48 +0000
      Re: Recommended Newsreaders "A. Dumas" <alexandre@dumas.fr.invalid> - 2015-08-23 09:46 +0200
        Re: Recommended Newsreaders cl@isbd.net - 2015-08-23 10:13 +0100
    Re: Recommended Newsreaders rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 14:54 -0400
      Re: Recommended Newsreaders Björn Lundin <b.f.lundin@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 20:57 +0200
        Re: Recommended Newsreaders The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-23 02:07 +0100
          Re: Recommended Newsreaders "A. Dumas" <alexandre@dumas.fr.invalid> - 2015-08-23 09:02 +0200
          Re: Recommended Newsreaders Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-08-23 12:10 +0200
    Re: Recommended Newsreaders mick <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-22 18:54 +0000
    Re: Recommended Newsreaders removemefirst.Alan.Ianson@f757.n153.z1.fidonet.org (Alan Ianson) - 2015-08-22 12:34 +1200
      Re: Recommended Newsreaders alister <alister@nospam.com> - 2015-08-23 10:05 +0000
      Re: Recommended Newsreaders Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-08-23 12:08 +0200
        Re: Recommended Newsreaders removemefirst.Alan.Ianson@f757.n153.z1.fidonet.org (Alan Ianson) - 2015-08-23 10:14 +1200
        Re: Recommended Newsreaders pippo2@disney.com (Jack) - 2015-09-04 08:39 +0200
    Re: Recommended Newsreaders ERSHC <ershc123@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-22 20:35 +0000
      Re: Recommended Newsreaders Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-08-23 12:13 +0200
        Re: Recommended Newsreaders cl@isbd.net - 2015-08-23 12:46 +0100
    Re: Recommended Newsreaders Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com> - 2015-08-22 23:54 +0100
    Re: Recommended Newsreaders RRansil <ransil@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-23 10:11 -0700
    Re: Recommended Newsreaders I R A Darth Aggie <n0b0dy@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-24 18:57 +0000

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#9469 — Recommended Newsreaders

Are there any newsreaders particularly suitable for Raspbian? What do 
you recommend for a novice Linux user? (I looked at the slrn website and 
found it completely daunting: I know nothing about compiling software.)

Ray

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#9470

On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 11:28:48 -0700, RRansil wrote:

> Are there any newsreaders particularly suitable for Raspbian? What do
> you recommend for a novice Linux user? (I looked at the slrn website and
> found it completely daunting: I know nothing about compiling software.)
> 
> Ray

I have not tried it on the rpi, but I've used pan for a long time on 
other Debian systems - you might give it a shot if you're looking for a 
gui based one.

Doing a quick search of the repositories on my main system, there are 
also several console readers: cone, nn(curses based), tin.

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#9480

Op 22-08-15 om 20:48 schreef ray carter:
> I have not tried it on the rpi, but I've used pan for a long time on
> other Debian systems - you might give it a shot if you're looking for a
> gui based one.
>
> Doing a quick search of the repositories on my main system, there are
> also several console readers: cone, nn(curses based), tin.

I found the following console and graphical news readers:

canto - flexible ncurses Atom/RSS newsreader for the console
cone - COnsole Newsreader and Emailer
gnus - A versatile news and mail reader for Emacsen
icedove - mail/news client with RSS and integrated spam filter support
knews - Graphical threaded news reader
knode - graphical news reader
lusernet.app - News reader for GNUstep
nn - Heavy-duty USENET news reader (curses-based client)
pan - newsreader based on GTK2, which looks like Forte Agent
postnews - Post Usenet articles via NNTP from the command line
slrn - threaded news reader (fast for slow links)
tin - A full-screen easy to use Usenet newsreader
uqwk - Offline mail and news package creator (NNTP version)
wl - mail/news reader supporting IMAP for emacsen
xbuffy - monitor mailboxes and/or newsgroups
xpn - graphical newsreader written in Python and GTK+ toolkit

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#9481

A. Dumas <alexandre@dumas.fr.invalid> wrote:
> Op 22-08-15 om 20:48 schreef ray carter:
> > I have not tried it on the rpi, but I've used pan for a long time on
> > other Debian systems - you might give it a shot if you're looking for a
> > gui based one.
> >
> > Doing a quick search of the repositories on my main system, there are
> > also several console readers: cone, nn(curses based), tin.
> 
> I found the following console and graphical news readers:
> 
> canto - flexible ncurses Atom/RSS newsreader for the console
> cone - COnsole Newsreader and Emailer
> gnus - A versatile news and mail reader for Emacsen
> icedove - mail/news client with RSS and integrated spam filter support
> knews - Graphical threaded news reader
> knode - graphical news reader
> lusernet.app - News reader for GNUstep
> nn - Heavy-duty USENET news reader (curses-based client)
> pan - newsreader based on GTK2, which looks like Forte Agent
> postnews - Post Usenet articles via NNTP from the command line
> slrn - threaded news reader (fast for slow links)
> tin - A full-screen easy to use Usenet newsreader
> uqwk - Offline mail and news package creator (NNTP version)
> wl - mail/news reader supporting IMAP for emacsen
> xbuffy - monitor mailboxes and/or newsgroups
> xpn - graphical newsreader written in Python and GTK+ toolkit
> 
Of the console/text-mode ones above that I'm familiar with my comments
are as follows:-

    nn - Old, ancestor of many others, not sure if it's still actively supported.
    slrn - widely used, popular (for a console app)
    tin - still has active support, mouse aware, I use this

-- 
Chris Green
·

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#9471

On 8/22/2015 2:28 PM, RRansil wrote:
> Are there any newsreaders particularly suitable for Raspbian? What do
> you recommend for a novice Linux user? (I looked at the slrn website and
> found it completely daunting: I know nothing about compiling software.)

Does Thunderbird run under Linux?  It works ok as a newsreader.

-- 

Rick

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#9473

On 2015-08-22 20:54, rickman wrote:
> On 8/22/2015 2:28 PM, RRansil wrote:
>> Are there any newsreaders particularly suitable for Raspbian? What do
>> you recommend for a novice Linux user? (I looked at the slrn website and
>> found it completely daunting: I know nothing about compiling software.)
> 
> Does Thunderbird run under Linux?  It works ok as a newsreader.
> 

I run thunderbird (or Icedove as debian calls it) on my desktop debian.
I see no reason that it should not work on the pi.

this post is from Icedove


--
Björn

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#9478

On 22/08/15 19:57, Björn Lundin wrote:
> On 2015-08-22 20:54, rickman wrote:
>> On 8/22/2015 2:28 PM, RRansil wrote:
>>> Are there any newsreaders particularly suitable for Raspbian? What do
>>> you recommend for a novice Linux user? (I looked at the slrn website and
>>> found it completely daunting: I know nothing about compiling software.)
>>
>> Does Thunderbird run under Linux?  It works ok as a newsreader.
>>
>
> I run thunderbird (or Icedove as debian calls it) on my desktop debian.
> I see no reason that it should not work on the pi.
>
> this post is from Icedove
>
has it been compiled for ARM?

>
> --
> Björn
>


-- 
New Socialism consists essentially in being seen to have your heart in 
the right place whilst your head is in the clouds and your hand is in 
someone else's pocket.

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#9479

Op 23-08-15 om 03:07 schreef The Natural Philosopher:
> On 22/08/15 19:57, Björn Lundin wrote:
>> I run thunderbird (or Icedove as debian calls it) on my desktop debian.
>> I see no reason that it should not work on the pi.
>>
>> this post is from Icedove
>
> has it been compiled for ARM?

Easy to check. Yes:

> $ apt-cache show icedove
> Package: icedove
> Version: 31.7.0-1~deb7u1
> Architecture: armhf
> Maintainer: Christoph Goehre <chris@sigxcpu.org>
> Installed-Size: 66887
> Depends: fontconfig, psmisc, debianutils (>= 1.16), libasound2 (>= 1.0.16), libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.12.4), libc6 (>= 2.13-28), libcairo2 (>= 1.10.2-2~), libdbus-1-3 (>= 1.0.2), libdbus-glib-1-2 (>= 0.78), libevent-2.0-5 (>= 2.0.10-stable), libffi5 (>= 3.0.9), libfontconfig1 (>= 2.9.0), libfreetype6 (>= 2.3.9), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.4.0), libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 (>= 2.22.0), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.18.0), libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.24.0), libhunspell-1.3-0, libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.14.0), libpixman-1-0 (>= 0.25.2), libsqlite3-0 (>= 3.7.7), libstartup-notification0 (>= 0.8), libstdc++6 (>= 4.6), libx11-6, libxext6, libxrender1, libxt6, zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.0)
> Recommends: myspell-en-us | hunspell-dictionary | myspell-dictionary
> Suggests: fonts-lyx, libgssapi-krb5-2, libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.20.0)
> Breaks: enigmail (<< 2:1.6-4~deb7u1), hunspell-ar (<< 0.0.0+20080110-1.1), hunspell-da (<< 1:3.1.0-3), hunspell-de-at (<< 20071211-2), hunspell-de-ch (<< 20071211-2), hunspell-de-de (<< 20071211-2), hunspell-de-med (<< 20090825-1), hunspell-en-ca (<< 1:3.1.0-3), hunspell-en-us (<< 20070829-3), hunspell-fr (<< 1:3.1.0-3), hunspell-gl-es (<< 2.2a-6), hunspell-hu (<< 1:3.1.0-3), hunspell-ko (<< 0.3.3-1), hunspell-ne (<< 1:3.1.0-3), hunspell-se (<< 1.0~beta6.20081222-1.1), hunspell-sh (<< 1:3.1.0-3), hunspell-sr (<< 1:3.1.0-3), hunspell-uz (<< 0.6-3.1), hunspell-vi (<< 1:3.1.0-3), icedove-gnome-support (<< 3.0-1~), iceowl-extension (<< 31.7.0-1~deb7u1), myspell-af (<< 1:3.1.0-3), myspell-ca (<< 0.6-8), myspell-cs-cz (<< 20040229-4.1), myspell-da (<< 1.6.18-1.1), myspell-de-at (<< 20071211-2), myspell-de-ch (<< 20071211-2), myspell-de-de (<< 20071211-2), myspell-de-de-oldspell (<< 1:2-25.1), myspell-el-gr (<< 0.3-1.1), myspell-en-au (<< 2.1-5), myspell-en-gb (<< 1:3.1.0-3), myspell-en-us
 (<< 1:3.1.0-3), myspell-en-za (<< 1:3.1.0-3), myspell-eo (<< 2.1.2000.02.25-41), myspell-es (<< 1.10-7), myspell-et (<< 1:20030606-12.1), myspell-fa (<< 0.20070816-2), myspell-fi (<< 0.7-17.2), myspell-fo (<< 0.2.36-3), myspell-fr (<< 1.4-25), myspell-fr-gut (<< 1:1.0-26.1), myspell-ga (<< 2.0-19), myspell-gd (<< 0.50-7), myspell-gv (<< 0.50-8), myspell-hr (<< 20060617-2), myspell-hu (<< 0.99.4-1.2), myspell-hy (<< 0.10.1-1.1), myspell-it (<< 1:3.1.0-3), myspell-ku (<< 0.20.0-1.1), myspell-lv (<< 0.7.3-3.1), myspell-nb (<< 2.0.10-3.1), myspell-ne (<< 1.0-4.1), myspell-nl (<< 1:1.10-3), myspell-nn (<< 2.0.10-3.1), myspell-pl (<< 20090830-1), myspell-pt-br (<< 2009.03.30-1.1), myspell-pt-pt (<< 20090309-1.1), myspell-ru (<< 0.99g5-8.1), myspell-sk (<< 0.5.5a-2.1), myspell-sv-se (<< 1.3.8-6-2.2), myspell-sw (<< 1:3.1.0-3), myspell-th (<< 1:3.1.0-3), myspell-tl (<< 0.4-0-5)
> Replaces: icedove-gnome-support (<< 3.0-1~)
> Provides: mail-reader
> Homepage: http://www.mozilla.org/thunderbird/
> Priority: optional
> Section: mail
> Filename: pool/main/i/icedove/icedove_31.7.0-1~deb7u1_armhf.deb
> Size: 27194132
> SHA256: 0bfc3bd6921fbe0881d67f7543f72d4a61a8c79b5e0c7cff733b4859f8459bdf
> SHA1: 3ef5b7917d18bec61b34575018c18228790e082e
> MD5sum: 3f712406c4f6e7fbc6e8576b86c4c6ae
> Description: mail/news client with RSS and integrated spam filter support
>  Icedove is an unbranded Thunderbird mail client suitable for free
>  distribution. It supports different mail accounts (POP, IMAP, Gmail), has an
>  integrated learning Spam filter, and offers easy organization of mails with
>  tagging and virtual folders. Also, more features can be added by installing
>  extensions.
>  .
>  The goal of Icedove is to produce a cross platform standalone mail application
>  using the XUL user interface language.
> Xul-Appid: {3550f703-e582-4d05-9a08-453d09bdfdc6}

But as a former Forté Agent user on Windows, I think Pan is more to my 
taste. Also in the repo:

> $ apt-cache show pan
> Package: pan
> Version: 0.139-2
> Architecture: armhf
> Maintainer: Dominique Dumont <dod@debian.org>
> Installed-Size: 3347
> Depends: libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.12.4), libc6 (>= 2.13-28), libcairo2 (>= 1.6.0), libenchant1c2a (>= 1.6), libfontconfig1 (>= 2.9.0), libfreetype6 (>= 2.2.1), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.4.0), libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 (>= 2.22.0), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.31.8), libgmime-2.6-0 (>= 2.6.4), libgnome-keyring0 (>= 2.22.2), libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.24.0), libgtkspell0 (>= 2.0.10), libnotify4 (>= 0.7.0), libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.14.0), libstdc++6 (>= 4.6), gnome-keyring
> Homepage: http://pan.rebelbase.com/
> Priority: optional
> Section: news
> Filename: pool/main/p/pan/pan_0.139-2_armhf.deb
> Size: 1194774
> SHA256: c5fb591498fffd841b25f012ac8b6d0f58c83f0715ad83b706c82c1f4eb6591c
> SHA1: ffc5f2efd4ff01a30917884d46fae47c2b6343ab
> MD5sum: 80dc766c26c504523df866a5c551cc0e
> Description: newsreader based on GTK2, which looks like Forte Agent
>  Pan is a newsreader, loosely based on Agent and Gravity, which attempts to be
>   pleasant to use for new and advanced users alike. It has all the typical
>   features found in newsreaders and also supports offline newsreading,
>   sophisticated filtering, multiple connections, and a number of extra features
>   for power users and alt.binaries fans.

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#9484

In article <mrb6dg$7aq$1@news.albasani.net>,
The Natural Philosopher  <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>On 22/08/15 19:57, Björn Lundin wrote:
>> On 2015-08-22 20:54, rickman wrote:
>>> On 8/22/2015 2:28 PM, RRansil wrote:
>>>> Are there any newsreaders particularly suitable for Raspbian? What do
>>>> you recommend for a novice Linux user? (I looked at the slrn website and
>>>> found it completely daunting: I know nothing about compiling software.)
>>>
>>> Does Thunderbird run under Linux?  It works ok as a newsreader.
>>>
>>
>> I run thunderbird (or Icedove as debian calls it) on my desktop debian.
>> I see no reason that it should not work on the pi.
>>
>> this post is from Icedove
>>
>has it been compiled for ARM?

You can ask your pi that directly.

$ apt-cache search icedove

-- mrr

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#9472

On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 11:28:48 -0700, RRansil wrote:

> Are there any newsreaders particularly suitable for Raspbian? What do
> you recommend for a novice Linux user? (I looked at the slrn website and
> found it completely daunting: I know nothing about compiling software.)
> 


I admit that I haven't tried this on a RPi, but PAN runs very nicely for 
me under Mint. It might be worth trying it.

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#9475

On 08/22/15, RRansil said the following...
 
 RR> Are there any newsreaders particularly suitable for Raspbian? What do
 RR> you recommend for a novice Linux user? (I looked at the slrn website and
 RR> found it completely daunting: I know nothing about compiling software.)

In most cases it's as simple as unpacking the archive, changing to that root
directory and doing..

./configure
make
make install

The make install step will require root access but it is not always necessary
depending on what you want to do. If you run into dependency issues (not
likely with slrn) that will take more time to work out.

Give that a try and see..

 Ttyl :-),
         Al

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#9482

On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 12:34:00 +1200, Alan Ianson wrote:

> On 08/22/15, RRansil said the following...
>  
>  RR> Are there any newsreaders particularly suitable for Raspbian? What
>  do RR> you recommend for a novice Linux user? (I looked at the slrn
>  website and RR> found it completely daunting: I know nothing about
>  compiling software.)
> 
> In most cases it's as simple as unpacking the archive, changing to that
> root directory and doing..
> 
> ./configure make make install
> 
> The make install step will require root access but it is not always
> necessary depending on what you want to do. If you run into dependency
> issues (not likely with slrn) that will take more time to work out.
> 
> Give that a try and see..
> 
>  Ttyl :-),
>          Al

I use pan on all my systems
it should be in the raspian repository so a simple apt-get install pan 
should be all you need to get started

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#9485

In article <1192649806@f757.n153.z1.fidonet.org>,
Alan Ianson <removemefirst.Alan.Ianson@f757.n153.z1.fidonet.org> wrote:
>On 08/22/15, RRansil said the following...
> 
> RR> Are there any newsreaders particularly suitable for Raspbian? What do
> RR> you recommend for a novice Linux user? (I looked at the slrn website and
> RR> found it completely daunting: I know nothing about compiling software.)
>
>In most cases it's as simple as unpacking the archive, changing to that root
>directory and doing..
>
>./configure
>make
>make install
>
>The make install step will require root access but it is not always necessary
>depending on what you want to do. If you run into dependency issues (not
>likely with slrn) that will take more time to work out.

Also, you may just download the application from the (quite well stocked)
raspbian respository.

# apt-get update
# apt-get install slrn

or if you cannot find it, try 

$ apt-cache search <keyword> 

The update one above is just to see to it that you have an updated version
of the maps to applications. You may also want to do a 

# apt-get upgrade

followed by a 

# rm /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb

to clean out the temp files generated by the upgrade.

-- mrr

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#9488

On 08/23/15, Morten Reistad said the following...
 
 MR> Also, you may just download the application from the (quite well stocked)
 MR> raspbian respository.

My bad. I didn't realise it was in the repo. In a case like that it's much
simpler to install and keep updated.

 Ttyl :-),
         Al

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#9519

Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> wrote:

> # apt-get upgrade
> 
> followed by a 
> 
> # rm /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb
> 
> to clean out the temp files generated by the upgrade.

apt-get autoclean
apt-get autoremove 

and I suggest to install localepurge, so it will purge all the files in
languages you don't use.

Bye Jack
-- 
Yoda of Borg am I! Assimilated shall you be! Futile resistance is, hmm?

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#9476

On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 11:28:48 -0700, RRansil <ransil@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> Are there any newsreaders particularly suitable for Raspbian? What do 
> you recommend for a novice Linux user? (I looked at the slrn website and 
> found it completely daunting: I know nothing about compiling software.)

Be not afraid, Ray. Installing slrn is as easy as typing 
$ sudo apt-get install slrn
It just works. (Well, I did have to run apt-get update first).
You do need to set your nntp server in the appropriate place.


>
> Ray

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#9483

In article <mrame8$bjl$1@dont-email.me>, ERSHC  <ershc123@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 11:28:48 -0700, RRansil <ransil@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> Are there any newsreaders particularly suitable for Raspbian? What do 
>> you recommend for a novice Linux user? (I looked at the slrn website and 
>> found it completely daunting: I know nothing about compiling software.)
>
>Be not afraid, Ray. Installing slrn is as easy as typing 
>$ sudo apt-get install slrn
>It just works. (Well, I did have to run apt-get update first).
>You do need to set your nntp server in the appropriate place.

You may want to download and run leafnode, which makes a local cache
of the newsgroups you read, and does batch updates to the far-away 
newsserver.

Works wonders for me, posting this from an arm chromebook on a 
crowded airport bus.

-- mrr

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#9486

Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> wrote:
> In article <mrame8$bjl$1@dont-email.me>, ERSHC  <ershc123@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
> >On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 11:28:48 -0700, RRansil <ransil@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >> Are there any newsreaders particularly suitable for Raspbian? What do 
> >> you recommend for a novice Linux user? (I looked at the slrn website and 
> >> found it completely daunting: I know nothing about compiling software.)
> >
> >Be not afraid, Ray. Installing slrn is as easy as typing 
> >$ sudo apt-get install slrn
> >It just works. (Well, I did have to run apt-get update first).
> >You do need to set your nntp server in the appropriate place.
> 
> You may want to download and run leafnode, which makes a local cache
> of the newsgroups you read, and does batch updates to the far-away 
> newsserver.
> 
> Works wonders for me, posting this from an arm chromebook on a 
> crowded airport bus.
> 
Yes, it's what I do.  It's very handy if you use more than one remote
nntp news-server as it talks to all of them in the background and you
can just tell your newsreader to use the local leafnode server.

-- 
Chris Green
·

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#9477

On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 11:28:48 -0700
RRansil <ransil@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> Are there any newsreaders particularly suitable for Raspbian? What do 
> you recommend for a novice Linux user? (I looked at the slrn website
> and found it completely daunting: I know nothing about compiling
> software.)
> 
Claws Mail is an excellent mail and news client.

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#9487

In article <ransil-E0ED7F.11284722082015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>,
 RRansil <ransil@invalid.invalid> wrote:

Many thanks to all replied. Your helpful suggestions are most welcome 
and I look forward to trying them in the coming weeks. I'm enjoying the 
RPi/Linux because there are so many new things to learn.

Ray

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