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| Started by | Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> |
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| First post | 2018-09-20 18:01 -0600 |
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Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2018-09-20 18:01 -0600
Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-20 20:22 -0400
Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2018-09-20 18:37 -0600
Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-20 20:51 -0400
Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2018-09-20 19:45 -0600
Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-20 22:09 -0400
Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2018-09-21 05:08 -0600
Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-21 09:20 -0400
Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2018-09-21 09:06 -0600
Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-21 11:31 -0400
Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2018-09-21 10:50 -0600
Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2018-09-21 12:53 -0400
Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-21 13:06 -0400
Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2018-09-21 12:40 -0400
Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) - 2018-09-24 09:07 +0200
Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2018-09-24 20:23 -0600
Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-09-21 22:38 +0000
Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-21 18:54 -0400
Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-09-21 11:13 +0000
Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2018-09-21 10:49 -0600
Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-21 13:06 -0400
Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-09-21 22:47 +0000
Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 georg.schwarz@freenet.de (Georg Schwarz) - 2018-09-21 19:21 +0200
Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-21 13:24 -0400
Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-09-21 22:49 +0000
Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 georg.schwarz@freenet.de (Georg Schwarz) - 2018-09-22 00:55 +0200
Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2018-09-21 19:14 -0600
Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-09-22 07:45 +0000
Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2018-09-22 07:40 -0600
Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 georg.schwarz@freenet.de (Georg Schwarz) - 2018-09-22 00:51 +0200
Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-09-21 13:41 +1200
Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2018-09-21 05:17 -0600
Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2018-09-25 20:20 -0600
Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-25 22:26 -0400
Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2018-09-25 21:04 -0600
Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-25 23:09 -0400
Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 Andreas Rutishauser <andreas@macandreas.ch> - 2018-09-26 08:09 +0200
Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2018-09-27 00:49 +1200
Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2018-09-26 07:37 -0600
Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) - 2018-09-27 08:08 +0100
Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-09-28 17:43 +0000
Re: Updating a MacBook Pro, mid-2012 Krzysztof Mitko <invalid@kmitko.at.list.dot.pl> - 2018-09-26 05:56 +0200
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-09-21 13:06 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <210920181306445459%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #118223 |
In article <po37dv$703$1@news.albasani.net>, Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> wrote: > >> But, she's still paranoid about losing those photos, > > > > AS she should be. She needs to have at least three backups, and one > > needs to be an offsite backup. > > And now, as far as a home user is concerned, you are talking utopia. In > real life, you're lucky to get a user to make copies of their data to an > external drive. that's why it should be automated. once set up, the user does not need to anything else for backups to take place, and the setup can be done by someone other than the original user if they're confused about what to do. > > >> What I'd like to be able to do is have Time Machine back up to 2 drives > >> at the same time. This would be after I'm sure she understands Time > >> Machine and how to retrieve the earlier files. > > > > This is built in to Time Machine. But an offsite backup needs to be part > > of her solution. Backblaze is $5/month. > > Online solutions are not always the long term best buy, and if your > internet connection is subject to going down without warning, then it > shouldn't be a solution you want to rely on. online backups are a lot safer than anything a home user can ever possibly do, especially someone whom you describe as technically illiterate. if the internet goes off, the backup will resume when it comes back. also, many online services will accept a hard drive as the initial upload and/or send a hard drive in the event a full restore is needed. > >> She's clear that with the OS upgrade, she'll have to learn Photos. > > > > DO not update until there are multiple copies (off the computer) of the > > photos. Verify the backups, then disconnect them before proceeding. > > I'll remember the disconnecting. that's so the backups aren't altered by mistake. > It's interesting, have you ever noticed how the design of hardware often > makes physical disconnection of peripherals a PITA? no.
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2018-09-21 22:47 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnpqat86.300.g.kreme@Snow.local> |
| In reply to | #118223 |
In message <po37dv$703$1@news.albasani.net> Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> wrote: > On 9/21/18 5:13 AM, Lewis wrote: >> Not really. If the photo library is that large, then the time machine >> backup is almost certainly *at best* a single backup of the most >> recent state of the machine, since there's no room on a 1TB drive for >> much else than the photo library. > I know. :-( But, until the "light bulb" goes on, I can't do anything > about it. Yes, you can. Well, someone can. Perhaps not you. It sounds like you are one of those people who likes to explain everything in great detail. Don't do that, people fucking hate that. Just set it up. >>> But, she's still paranoid about losing those photos, >> >> AS she should be. She needs to have at least three backups, and one >> needs to be an offsite backup. > And now, as far as a home user is concerned, you are talking utopia. Not at all. My In-laws had three redundant backups of their computer and didn't even know it. > In real life, you're lucky to get a user to make copies of their data > to an external drive. True, which is why the user *DOES NOTHING*. Backups need to be REDUNDANT. Backups need to be AUTOMATIC. One Backup must be OFF-SITE. > I've often wondered how many Windows users turn on File History, have > File History set up to save to the same hard drive, and think they have > backed up their computer. File History is a cluster fuck that doesn't work well and screws up the system, so most people, if they know about it at all, turn it off. > You have to realize, these are baby steps for her. they should be non-existent steps. >>> What I'd like to be able to do is have Time Machine back up to 2 drives >>> at the same time. This would be after I'm sure she understands Time >>> Machine and how to retrieve the earlier files. >> >> This is built in to Time Machine. But an offsite backup needs to be part >> of her solution. Backblaze is $5/month. > Online solutions are not always the long term best buy, and if your > internet connection is subject to going down without warning, then it > shouldn't be a solution you want to rely on. If you do not have off-site backups of the data that is most important to you, you might as well not have any backups at all. >>> Better, would be to get her to have multiple libraries, but that might >>> be a hopeless dream. >> >> No one wants to deal with multiple libraries. it is a fucking pain in >> the ass. > That would be an individual solution, and in her case, could be a better > one. No, because managing multiple libraries is terrible. >>> She's clear that with the OS upgrade, she'll have to learn Photos. >> >> DO not update until there are multiple copies (off the computer) of the >> photos. Verify the backups, then disconnect them before proceeding. > I'll remember the disconnecting. > It's interesting, have you ever noticed how the design of hardware often > makes physical disconnection of peripherals a PITA? Not for many years now, no. >>> She takes some absolutely extraordinary photos of hummingbirds in >>> flight. Just beyond gorgeous. >> >> All the more reason to have multiple backups and absolutely to have an >> offsite backup as well. How bad would it be if all the photos were >> gone? > You know the old saying, "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't > make them drink." Also, the horse has to be able to afford the water. <G> The cost is lose everything or spend a small amount of money to protect it. If she can't spend $5 a month, then the data isn't important to her. -- "Esprit de corpse," said the Senior Wrangler. Ridcully glared at him
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| From | georg.schwarz@freenet.de (Georg Schwarz) |
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| Date | 2018-09-21 19:21 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <1nvhsdv.1yt2hnoukkqo0N%georg.schwarz@freenet.de> |
| In reply to | #118204 |
Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> wrote: > I'm not sure the owner has an Apple ID/account of any type. Even if she > does, I'm not sure she would even remember having one. why would you need one?
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-09-21 13:24 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <210920181324349665%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #118228 |
In article <1nvhsdv.1yt2hnoukkqo0N%georg.schwarz@freenet.de>, Georg Schwarz <georg.schwarz@freenet.de> wrote: > > > I'm not sure the owner has an Apple ID/account of any type. Even if she > > does, I'm not sure she would even remember having one. > > why would you need one? to download from the app store.
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2018-09-21 22:49 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnpqatb0.300.g.kreme@Snow.local> |
| In reply to | #118229 |
In message <210920181324349665%nospam@nospam.invalid> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article <1nvhsdv.1yt2hnoukkqo0N%georg.schwarz@freenet.de>, Georg > Schwarz <georg.schwarz@freenet.de> wrote: >> >> > I'm not sure the owner has an Apple ID/account of any type. Even if she >> > does, I'm not sure she would even remember having one. >> >> why would you need one? > to download from the app store. You do not need an AppleID to download updates. I think you DO need an AppleID to download a new version of the system, however. -- Chico: You sing-a high. Connie: Yes, I have a falsetto voice. Chico: That's-a funny; my last pupil she had-a false set-a teeth.
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| From | georg.schwarz@freenet.de (Georg Schwarz) |
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| Date | 2018-09-22 00:55 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <1nvi7qb.wo824ssmjlkwN%georg.schwarz@freenet.de> |
| In reply to | #118247 |
Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: > You do not need an AppleID to download updates. I think you DO need an > AppleID to download a new version of the system, however. you don't. By the way, you might also directly install on the Macbook via Internet by booting with Command-R pressed.
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| From | Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-21 19:14 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <po450t$r8a$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #118251 |
On 9/21/18 4:55 PM, Georg Schwarz wrote:
> Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>
>> You do not need an AppleID to download updates. I think you DO need an
>> AppleID to download a new version of the system, however.
>
> you don't.
>
> By the way, you might also directly install on the Macbook via Internet
> by booting with Command-R pressed.
I thought about this option, discarded it. Using the AppStore will give
me the opportunity to teach her a little about it.
--
Ken
Mac OS X 10.11.6
Firefox 59.0.1 (64 bit)
Thunderbird 60.0.2
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2018-09-22 07:45 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnpqbsph.13pa.g.kreme@Snow.local> |
| In reply to | #118257 |
In message <po450t$r8a$1@news.albasani.net> Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> wrote: > On 9/21/18 4:55 PM, Georg Schwarz wrote: >> Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: >> >>> You do not need an AppleID to download updates. I think you DO need an >>> AppleID to download a new version of the system, however. >> >> you don't. >> >> By the way, you might also directly install on the Macbook via Internet >> by booting with Command-R pressed. > I thought about this option, discarded it. Using the AppStore will give > me the opportunity to teach her a little about it. Is this something she wants to know? -- Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
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| From | Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-22 07:40 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <po5gou$n0l$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #118265 |
On 9/22/18 1:45 AM, Lewis wrote:
> In message <po450t$r8a$1@news.albasani.net> Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> wrote:
>> On 9/21/18 4:55 PM, Georg Schwarz wrote:
>>> Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You do not need an AppleID to download updates. I think you DO need an
>>>> AppleID to download a new version of the system, however.
>>>
>>> you don't.
>>>
>>> By the way, you might also directly install on the Macbook via Internet
>>> by booting with Command-R pressed.
>
>> I thought about this option, discarded it. Using the AppStore will give
>> me the opportunity to teach her a little about it.
>
> Is this something she wants to know?
I don't think she even knows it exists.
Regardless of who you are, you can't use something if you don't know it
exists. Once you know something exists, then you have a choice to use
it or not.
I'll just tell her something like "This is the AppStore where you can
find lots of software for the computer", and let it go at that.
--
Ken
Mac OS X 10.11.6
Firefox 59.0.1 (64 bit)
Thunderbird 60.0.2
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"
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| From | georg.schwarz@freenet.de (Georg Schwarz) |
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| Date | 2018-09-22 00:51 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <1nvi7j2.3bz45o16c6n2kN%georg.schwarz@freenet.de> |
| In reply to | #118229 |
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > > why would you need one? > > to download from the app store. I didn't need one to do so.
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| From | Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-21 13:41 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <po1i8n$1dcs$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #118201 |
On 2018-09-21 00:01:21 +0000, Ken Springer said:
>
> What would be the easiest way to update this computer to to the latest
> supported version of OS X?
>
> The computer currently has 10.9 installed.
>
> Thanks.
Easy peasy lemon squeezey. As per the "instructions" at
<https://support.apple.com/macos/high-sierra>
1. First, make a backup.
[Or even two backups]
2. Check compatibility.
[According to the list, a mid-2012 MacBook Pro and the RAM is okay]
3. Free up space
[If the main drive is running low]
4. Download macOS High Sierra from the App Store
macappstores://itunes.apple.com/app/id1246284741
What that page doesn't tell you is that you may need to download
updates to the App Store app before you can download High Sierra, so
best to check for any updates for that first.
Also of note is that it may take a while to install (the 'time left'
figures it displays aren't very accurate, so ignore them) and the
computer do multiple reboots during the process. It can also look like
it's stalled from time to time, but leave it for a while before letting
panic make you attempt a forced shutdown or something.
Because it does take a while, make sure the laptop is plugged into the
wall power socket ... last thing you need is the battery running out
mid-install.
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| From | Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-21 05:17 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <po2jvh$60o$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #118207 |
On 9/20/18 7:41 PM, Your Name wrote:
> On 2018-09-21 00:01:21 +0000, Ken Springer said:
>>
>> What would be the easiest way to update this computer to to the latest
>> supported version of OS X?
>>
>> The computer currently has 10.9 installed.
>>
>> Thanks.
>
> Easy peasy lemon squeezey. As per the "instructions" at
> <https://support.apple.com/macos/high-sierra>
>
> 1. First, make a backup.
> [Or even two backups]
She's got 1 using Time Machine.
> 2. Check compatibility.
> [According to the list, a mid-2012 MacBook Pro and the RAM is okay]
>
> 3. Free up space
> [If the main drive is running low]
After relocating her iPhotos library, this is no longer an issue.
> 4. Download macOS High Sierra from the App Store
> macappstores://itunes.apple.com/app/id1246284741
I think I'm just going to try the AppStore route. Login and let Apple
do it's thing.
> What that page doesn't tell you is that you may need to download
> updates to the App Store app before you can download High Sierra, so
> best to check for any updates for that first.
>
> Also of note is that it may take a while to install (the 'time left'
> figures it displays aren't very accurate, so ignore them)
I don't care which OS you use, those "time left" numbers are never
right! LOL
> and the
> computer do multiple reboots during the process. It can also look like
> it's stalled from time to time, but leave it for a while before letting
> panic make you attempt a forced shutdown or something.
>
> Because it does take a while, make sure the laptop is plugged into the
> wall power socket ... last thing you need is the battery running out
> mid-install.
--
Ken
Mac OS X 10.11.6
Firefox 59.0.1 (64 bit)
Thunderbird 60.0.2
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"
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| From | Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-25 20:20 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <poeqd8$9lk$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #118201 |
On 9/20/18 6:01 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
> What would be the easiest way to update this computer to to the latest
> supported version of OS X?
>
> The computer currently has 10.9 installed.
>
> Thanks.
Success!!!! Went without a hitch using the AppStore. High Sierra is
installed.
Thanks for the help, everyone.
--
Ken
Mac OS X 10.11.6
Firefox 59.0.1 (64 bit)
Thunderbird 60.0.2
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-09-25 22:26 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <250920182226289012%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #118390 |
In article <poeqd8$9lk$1@news.albasani.net>, Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> wrote: > > What would be the easiest way to update this computer to to the latest > > supported version of OS X? > > > Success!!!! Went without a hitch using the AppStore. High Sierra is > installed. why not mojave?
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| From | Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-25 21:04 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <poet0n$3or$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #118391 |
On 9/25/18 8:26 PM, nospam wrote:
> In article <poeqd8$9lk$1@news.albasani.net>, Ken Springer
> <wordworks@greeleynet.com> wrote:
>
>>> What would be the easiest way to update this computer to to the latest
>>> supported version of OS X?
>>>
>
>> Success!!!! Went without a hitch using the AppStore. High Sierra is
>> installed.
>
> why not mojave?
Apparently, it wasn't offered to her yet. She actually started it
before I got there, and, as I said, she didn't know what she did.
She will certainly be happy, and that's the goal. And, it's just a
personal preference, but I like to wait when the first of something new
comes out. Let that first raft of bugs be found by someone else. LOL
--
Ken
Mac OS X 10.11.6
Firefox 59.0.1 (64 bit)
Thunderbird 60.0.2
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-09-25 23:09 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <250920182309485060%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #118392 |
In article <poet0n$3or$1@news.albasani.net>, Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> wrote: > >> Success!!!! Went without a hitch using the AppStore. High Sierra is > >> installed. > > > > why not mojave? > > Apparently, it wasn't offered to her yet. She actually started it > before I got there, and, as I said, she didn't know what she did. it was released yesterday.
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| From | Andreas Rutishauser <andreas@macandreas.ch> |
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| Date | 2018-09-26 08:09 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <andreas-3842EE.08093726092018@news.individual.de> |
| In reply to | #118393 |
In article <250920182309485060%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article <poet0n$3or$1@news.albasani.net>, Ken Springer > <wordworks@greeleynet.com> wrote: > > > >> Success!!!! Went without a hitch using the AppStore. High Sierra is > > >> installed. > > > > > > why not mojave? > > > > Apparently, it wasn't offered to her yet. She actually started it > > before I got there, and, as I said, she didn't know what she did. > > it was released yesterday. Ken did not write when te install took place... The Mojave installer on my computer (MacPro5,1) told me I have to install High Sierra 10.3.6 first, before I can install Mojave (currently Sierra is installed). Did Mojave loose the possibility to jump major releases? Cheers Andreas -- MacAndreas Rutishauser, <http://www.MacAndreas.ch> EDV-Dienstleistungen, Hard- und Software, Internet und Netzwerk Beratung, Unterstuetzung und Schulung <mailto:andreas@MacAndreas.ch>, Fon: 044 / 721 36 47
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| From | dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) |
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| Date | 2018-09-27 00:49 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <1nvrdin.dzwh1c1o2wkrlN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz> |
| In reply to | #118399 |
Andreas Rutishauser <andreas@macandreas.ch> wrote: > In article <250920182309485060%nospam@nospam.invalid>, > nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > > > In article <poet0n$3or$1@news.albasani.net>, Ken Springer > > <wordworks@greeleynet.com> wrote: > > > > > >> Success!!!! Went without a hitch using the AppStore. High Sierra is > > > >> installed. > > > > > > > > why not mojave? > > > > > > Apparently, it wasn't offered to her yet. She actually started it > > > before I got there, and, as I said, she didn't know what she did. > > > > it was released yesterday. > > Ken did not write when te install took place... > > The Mojave installer on my computer (MacPro5,1) told me I have to > install High Sierra 10.3.6 first, before I can install Mojave (currently > Sierra is installed). > > Did Mojave loose the possibility to jump major releases? The Mojave installer runs on OS X 10.8 (Mountain Lion) or later and should be able to do a direct upgrade from 10.8 through 10.12.6 on most Macs. (I'm doing a test upgrade of Mountain Lion to Mojave in a VMware Fusion 11 VM to prove the point. It didn't complain and is most of the way through the post-restart slow stage.) This article explains that the 2010 and 2012 Mac Pro are special cases that need to be running High Sierra 10.13.6 before they can upgrade to Mojave: https://support.apple.com/HT208898 (The installer should have given you a link to that article - it appears in the same text as the error message about needing 10.13.6.) The reason might just be that Apple added Metal support for those models in 10.13.6 and they are requiring you to be running 10.13.6 first to verify that your graphics card is supported, before potentially "going dark" by installing Mojave with an unsupported graphics card. -- David Empson dempson@actrix.gen.nz
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| From | Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-26 07:37 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <pog230$873$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #118399 |
On 9/26/18 12:09 AM, Andreas Rutishauser wrote:
> In article <250920182309485060%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>> In article <poet0n$3or$1@news.albasani.net>, Ken Springer
>> <wordworks@greeleynet.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Success!!!! Went without a hitch using the AppStore. High Sierra is
>>>>> installed.
>>>>
>>>> why not mojave?
>>>
>>> Apparently, it wasn't offered to her yet. She actually started it
>>> before I got there, and, as I said, she didn't know what she did.
>>
>> it was released yesterday.
>
> Ken did not write when te install took place...
Perhaps, some people have never heard the old platitude, "Engage brain
before opening mouth."
I don't know when she started the install, I just helped her finish.
When I got there, it was asking her for a password, and none that she
knew of worked. I pressed the Return key with no password entered, and
away we went. <G>
>
> The Mojave installer on my computer (MacPro5,1) told me I have to
> install High Sierra 10.3.6 first, before I can install Mojave (currently
> Sierra is installed).
I didn't check to see if Mojave was now offered, as doing another
upgrade immediately would have pissed her off. She wasn't happy when I
got there.
Sometimes, it's just as important to recognize when *NOT* to do something.
I did tell her an upgrade to Mojave was coming.
But, this jump from Mavericks to High Sierra will be enough of an
adjustment for her.
<snip>
--
Ken
Mac OS X 10.11.6
Firefox 59.0.1 (64 bit)
Thunderbird 60.0.2
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"
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| From | dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) |
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| Date | 2018-09-27 08:08 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1nvq6uj.19qej0gx704fnN%dcohenspam@talktalk.net> |
| In reply to | #118399 |
Andreas Rutishauser <andreas@macandreas.ch> wrote: > The Mojave installer on my computer (MacPro5,1) told me I have to > install High Sierra 10.3.6 first, before I can install Mojave (currently > Sierra is installed). > > Did Mojave loose the possibility to jump major releases? Maybe an issue related to APFS. I think Sierra doesn't know what to do with it. -- <http://www.decohen.com> The Labyrinth of the Heart: Changed Myths for Changing Lives book and e-book <http://www.decohen.com/labyrinth.htm> Send e-mail to the Reply-To address, not the From address.
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