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| Started by | nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) |
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| First post | 2015-02-19 12:33 -0700 |
| Last post | 2015-02-21 18:11 +0000 |
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OT: Lenovo does it for you! nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2015-02-19 12:33 -0700
Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-02-19 16:45 -0500
Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-20 13:24 +1300
Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-19 20:39 -0500
Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-02-19 17:59 -0800
Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-02-20 09:37 -0700
Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-02-20 09:42 -0800
Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-02-20 11:02 -0700
Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-20 20:21 +0000
Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-02-19 18:22 -0800
Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-02-19 21:39 -0500
Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-20 07:25 -0500
Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-02-21 03:34 +0000
Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-21 18:21 +1300
Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-02-21 01:16 -0800
Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-21 15:33 +0000
Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-02-22 01:35 +0000
Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-22 15:45 +1300
Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-02-22 01:55 -0800
Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-20 17:14 -0500
Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-02-19 21:36 -0500
Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-20 07:27 -0500
Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-21 09:49 +1300
Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-21 09:53 -0500
Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-20 19:08 +1300
Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-02-20 09:40 -0700
Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-02-19 17:58 -0800
Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-20 07:29 -0500
Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-21 09:50 +1300
Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-02-20 13:31 -0800
Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! billy@MIX.COM - 2015-02-23 18:27 +0000
Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! awoolmeyer@gmail.com - 2015-03-03 09:39 -0800
Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-03-03 09:43 -0800
Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-03 18:02 +0000
Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-03-03 10:14 -0800
Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! awoolmeyer@gmail.com - 2015-03-03 11:54 -0800
Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-03-03 12:03 -0800
Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-03 20:56 +0000
Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-04 09:23 -0700
Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-04 09:08 -0700
Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-04 16:27 +0000
Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-04 09:07 -0700
Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-02-19 22:43 +0000
Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2015-02-20 21:11 -0800
Re: OT: Lenovo does it for you! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-02-21 18:11 +0000
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| From | Davoud <star@sky.net> |
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| Date | 2015-02-19 21:36 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <190220152136031512%star@sky.net> |
| In reply to | #69972 |
Warren Oates: > > Apple has / does install their own "bloatware" though ... things like > > Garageband, Dashboard, that silly "@" on a spring icon, etc. that few > > people actually use / interested in, or in some cases don't even know > > exists. Your Name: > What was the thing on the spring? I've honestly never ever understood > Dashboard. Some people use Garbageband, I guess. What hubris! "I don't use these things, so nobody need them." Yes, some people--including professional musicians--use GarageBand. I use Dashboard every day. Weather reports, weather radar, and the Oxford American Dictionary and Thesaurus. But I don't assert that everyone must use what I use, or eschew what I do not use. -- I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that you will say in your entire life. usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm
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| From | Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-02-20 07:27 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <54e72818$0$29532$c3e8da3$e074e489@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #69979 |
In article <190220152136031512%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net> wrote: > Warren Oates: > > > Apple has / does install their own "bloatware" though ... things like > > > Garageband, Dashboard, that silly "@" on a spring icon, etc. that few > > > people actually use / interested in, or in some cases don't even know > > > exists. > > Your Name: > > What was the thing on the spring? I've honestly never ever understood > > Dashboard. Some people use Garbageband, I guess. > > What hubris! "I don't use these things, so nobody need them." Yes, some > people--including professional musicians--use GarageBand. I use > Dashboard every day. Weather reports, weather radar, and the Oxford > American Dictionary and Thesaurus. But I don't assert that everyone > must use what I use, or eschew what I do not use. Y'all got your attributions backwards. Also, y'all shouldn't take this stuff so personally. -- Where's the Vangelis music? Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her. They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing room scene. -- notes for Blade Runner
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| From | Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> |
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| Date | 2015-02-21 09:49 +1300 |
| Message-ID | <210220150949047418%YourName@YourISP.com> |
| In reply to | #70007 |
In article <54e72818$0$29532$c3e8da3$e074e489@news.astraweb.com>, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote: > In article <190220152136031512%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net> > wrote: > > > Warren Oates: > > > > Apple has / does install their own "bloatware" though ... things like > > > > Garageband, Dashboard, that silly "@" on a spring icon, etc. that few > > > > people actually use / interested in, or in some cases don't even know > > > > exists. > > > > Your Name: > > > What was the thing on the spring? I've honestly never ever understood > > > Dashboard. Some people use Garbageband, I guess. > > > > What hubris! "I don't use these things, so nobody need them." Yes, some > > people--including professional musicians--use GarageBand. I use > > Dashboard every day. Weather reports, weather radar, and the Oxford > > American Dictionary and Thesaurus. But I don't assert that everyone > > must use what I use, or eschew what I do not use. > > Y'all got your attributions backwards. Also, y'all shouldn't take this > stuff so personally. You'll find there's a few morons around here who think "some" means "all". :-\ There are also another bunch of morons who believe "Me and my five geeky friends don't do that" means "nobody" else on the planet does either. :-\ Anyone who actually has has reading comprehension skills knows what "*some* people" means and understands exactly what I said.
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| From | Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-02-21 09:53 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <54e89be9$0$42950$c3e8da3$5e5e430d@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #70033 |
In article <210220150949047418%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote: > In article <54e72818$0$29532$c3e8da3$e074e489@news.astraweb.com>, > Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote: > > In article <190220152136031512%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net> > > wrote: > > > > > Warren Oates: > > > > > Apple has / does install their own "bloatware" though ... things like > > > > > Garageband, Dashboard, that silly "@" on a spring icon, etc. that few > > > > > people actually use / interested in, or in some cases don't even know > > > > > exists. > > > > > > Your Name: > > > > What was the thing on the spring? I've honestly never ever understood > > > > Dashboard. Some people use Garbageband, I guess. > > > > > > What hubris! "I don't use these things, so nobody need them." Yes, some > > > people--including professional musicians--use GarageBand. I use > > > Dashboard every day. Weather reports, weather radar, and the Oxford > > > American Dictionary and Thesaurus. But I don't assert that everyone > > > must use what I use, or eschew what I do not use. > > > > Y'all got your attributions backwards. Also, y'all shouldn't take this > > stuff so personally. > > You'll find there's a few morons around here who think "some" means > "all". :-\ > > There are also another bunch of morons who believe "Me and my five > geeky friends don't do that" means "nobody" else on the planet does > either. :-\ > > Anyone who actually has has reading comprehension skills knows what > "*some* people" means and understands exactly what I said. Ooh. I love it when you're forceful. Eschews me while I diss this guy. -- Where's the Vangelis music? Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her. They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing room scene. -- notes for Blade Runner
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| From | Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> |
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| Date | 2015-02-20 19:08 +1300 |
| Message-ID | <200220151908582815%YourName@YourISP.com> |
| In reply to | #69972 |
In article <54e69051$0$32456$c3e8da3$cc4fe22d@news.astraweb.com>, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote: > In article <200220151324090386%YourName@YourISP.com>, > Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote: > > > > Apple has / does install their own "bloatware" though ... things like > > Garageband, Dashboard, that silly "@" on a spring icon, etc. that few > > people actually use / interested in, or in some cases don't even know > > exists. > > What was the thing on the spring? Basically, from memory of the one time I bothered to click on it, a shortcut to a website that few people wanted to visit. > I've honestly never ever understood Dashboard. Dashboard was largely a gimmick that most people occasionally only found themselves in by accident. Most of the widgets were worthless toys. It was also ridiculous hobbled by being a separate overlaid layer, a fact that Apple later tried to rectify by allowing widgets to work on the "normal" layer. > Some people use Garbageband, I guess. "Some people" use pretty much anything. Pretty much all of the iLife software was used by "some people", but for the vast majority most of it was a waste of disc space. Over the years of setting up Macs for various people (a variety of ages, both personal users and business users), I can't think of even one who wanted or needed to use iChat, iMovie, Garagaeband, etc. Most users simply want to be able to use the internet / email, crate text documents / simple DTP, etc.
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| From | Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> |
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| Date | 2015-02-20 09:40 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <200220150940413993%michelle@michelle.org> |
| In reply to | #69997 |
In article <200220151908582815%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote: > > What was the thing on the spring? > > Basically, from memory of the one time I bothered to click on it, a > shortcut to a website that few people wanted to visit. You can add your own ones to the Dock for sites you do want to visit. And you can drag the ones you don't want to visit off the Dock.
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| From | Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> |
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| Date | 2015-02-19 17:58 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <mc64bj$vve$1@news.datemas.de> |
| In reply to | #69970 |
On 2015-02-20 00:24:09 +0000, Your Name said: > In article <54e65960$0$54687$c3e8da3$fdf4f6af@news.astraweb.com>, JF > Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: >> On 15-02-19 14:33, Neill Massello wrote: >>> >>> Why wait for your computer to be infected with malware when you can have >>> the full PC experience right out of the box? >>> >>> <http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/lenovo-pcs-ship-with-man-in-the-mid >>> dle-adware-that-breaks-https-connections/> >> >> This is one of the HUGE advantages Apple has over competition for both >> computers and iDevices. No manufacturer or wireless network allowed to >> add thyeir bloatware onto the Apple device and everyone gets the same OS >> irrespective of whom they bought the device from. >> >> And this also means that when Apple issues software updates, everyone >> can install them. In the case of Android, software updates are first >> sent to hardware manufacturers who *can* then decide to generate a >> hardware specific update which is then sent to wireless carriers who >> *can* then decide to issue an update (containing their own bloatware) to >> their customers. > > Apple has / does install their own "bloatware" though ... things like > Garageband, Dashboard, that silly "@" on a spring icon, etc. that few > people actually use / interested in, or in some cases don't even know > exists. It would be nice if you knew just a LITTLE about the subject before you chimed in. Garageband: an application for creating music that is installed on SOME Macs. Dashboard: rightly or wrongly, an integral part of the OS as constituted and which weighs in at all of 1.2MB on disk. The 'silly "@" on a spring icon' hasn't been used in YEARS. > > Whenever I'm setting up a new Mac removing the excess rubbish from the > Dock is one of the tasks on the list. So you're removing icons from the default Dock and you think that is doing much? What would you put in the Dock from the beginning, and why are your choices better?
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| From | Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-02-20 07:29 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <54e7288c$0$29532$c3e8da3$e074e489@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #69974 |
In article <mc64bj$vve$1@news.datemas.de>, Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote: > What would you put in the Dock from the beginning, and why are your > choices bet I would put a picture of Mohammed in the Dock, just to annoy the sharif who don't like it. -- Where's the Vangelis music? Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her. They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing room scene. -- notes for Blade Runner
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| From | Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> |
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| Date | 2015-02-21 09:50 +1300 |
| Message-ID | <210220150950533989%YourName@YourISP.com> |
| In reply to | #70008 |
In article <54e7288c$0$29532$c3e8da3$e074e489@news.astraweb.com>, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote: > In article <mc64bj$vve$1@news.datemas.de>, > Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote: > > > > What would you put in the Dock from the beginning, and why are your > > choices bet > > I would put a picture of Mohammed in the Dock, just to annoy the sharif > who don't like it. Everyone knows there's only one true God ... Steve Jobs. ;-)
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| From | Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> |
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| Date | 2015-02-20 13:31 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <mc893u$au7$1@news.datemas.de> |
| In reply to | #70008 |
On 2015-02-20 12:29:00 +0000, Warren Oates said: > In article <mc64bj$vve$1@news.datemas.de>, > Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote: > >> What would you put in the Dock from the beginning, and why are your choices bet > > I would put a picture of Mohammed in the Dock, just to annoy the sharif > who don't like it. That WOULD rock the casbah... :-)
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| From | billy@MIX.COM |
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| Date | 2015-02-23 18:27 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mcfrf6$c7k$1@reader2.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #69966 |
JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> writes:
> This is one of the HUGE advantages Apple has over competition for both
> computers and iDevices. No manufacturer or wireless network allowed to
> add thyeir bloatware onto the Apple device and everyone gets the same OS
> irrespective of whom they bought the device from.
Everyone also gets the same web browsers -
http://www.chromium.org/Home/chromium-security/security-faq
#TOC-How-does-key-pinning-interact-with-local-proxies-and-filters-
| Chrome does not perform pin validation when the certificate
| chain chains up to a private trust anchor. A key result of this
| policy is that private trust anchors can be used to proxy (or
| MITM) connections, even to pinned sites. "Data loss prevention"
| appliances, firewalls, content filters, and malware can use this
| feature to defeat the protections of key pinning.
|
| We deem this acceptable because the proxy or MITM can only be
| effective if the client machine has already been configured to
| trust the proxy's issuing certificate - that is, the client is
| already under the control of the person who controls the proxy
| (e.g. the enterprise's IT administrator). If the client does not
| trust the private trust anchor, the proxy's attempt to mediate
| the connection will fail as it should.
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/02/further-evidence-lenovo-breaking-https-security-its-laptops
: The fact that there are significant numbers of Firefox victims
: somewhat contradicts the speculation that Firefox is safe because
: it doesn't use the Windows root store. This either indicates
: that Superfish also injects its certificate into the Firefox
: root store, or that on a large number of occasions Firefox
: users have been clicking through certificate warnings caused
: by Superfish MITM attacks.
Billy Y..
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| From | awoolmeyer@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2015-03-03 09:39 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <89361460-0b82-4089-8edb-8d2270addd1a@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #69966 |
On Thursday, February 19, 2015 at 4:45:08 PM UTC-5, JF Mezei wrote: > On 15-02-19 14:33, Neill Massello wrote: > > Why wait for your computer to be infected with malware when you can have > > the full PC experience right out of the box? > > > > <http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/lenovo-pcs-ship-with-man-in-the-middle-adware-that-breaks-https-connections/> > > > This is one of the HUGE advantages Apple has over competition for both > computers and iDevices. No manufacturer or wireless network allowed to > add thyeir bloatware onto the Apple device and everyone gets the same OS > irrespective of whom they bought the device from. > > And this also means that when Apple issues software updates, everyone > can install them. In the case of Android, software updates are first > sent to hardware manufacturers who *can* then decide to generate a > hardware specific update which is then sent to wireless carriers who > *can* then decide to issue an update (containing their own bloatware) to > their customers. I found it amusing that the supposed computer "consultant" Alan"Dick" Baker couldn't speak to you civilly. He is a prolific keyboard warrior who only insults behind the safety of his keyboard. Last year, in real life, someone broke his face for opening his big mouth. His injuries required stitches. They now ignore the jerk on all the other groups. He is a little, lard assed coward, without a chin.
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| From | Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> |
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| Date | 2015-03-03 09:43 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <md4rsb$3fr$1@news.datemas.de> |
| In reply to | #70408 |
On 2015-03-03 17:39:32 +0000, awoolmeyer@gmail.com said: > On Thursday, February 19, 2015 at 4:45:08 PM UTC-5, JF Mezei wrote: >> On 15-02-19 14:33, Neill Massello wrote: >>> Why wait for your computer to be infected with malware when you can have >>> the full PC experience right out of the box? >>> >>> <http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/lenovo-pcs-ship-with-man-in-the-middle-adware-that-breaks-https-connections/> >>> >> >> >> This is one of the HUGE advantages Apple has over competition for both >> computers and iDevices. No manufacturer or wireless network allowed to >> add thyeir bloatware onto the Apple device and everyone gets the same OS >> irrespective of whom they bought the device from. >> >> And this also means that when Apple issues software updates, everyone >> can install them. In the case of Android, software updates are first >> sent to hardware manufacturers who *can* then decide to generate a >> hardware specific update which is then sent to wireless carriers who >> *can* then decide to issue an update (containing their own bloatware) to >> their customers. > > I found it amusing that the supposed computer "consultant" Alan"Dick" > Baker couldn't speak to you civilly. > > He is a prolific keyboard warrior who only insults behind the safety of > his keyboard. > > Last year, in real life, someone broke his face for opening his big > mouth. His injuries required stitches. > > They now ignore the jerk on all the other groups. > > He is a little, lard assed coward, without a chin. LOL! Bark on for me, little doggy!
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2015-03-03 18:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <clmb8qFsmh1U4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #70408 |
On 2015-03-03, awoolmeyer@gmail.com <awoolmeyer@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thursday, February 19, 2015 at 4:45:08 PM UTC-5, JF Mezei wrote: >> >> This is one of the HUGE advantages Apple has over competition for both >> computers and iDevices. No manufacturer or wireless network allowed to >> add thyeir bloatware onto the Apple device and everyone gets the same OS >> irrespective of whom they bought the device from. >> >> And this also means that when Apple issues software updates, everyone >> can install them. In the case of Android, software updates are first >> sent to hardware manufacturers who *can* then decide to generate a >> hardware specific update which is then sent to wireless carriers who >> *can* then decide to issue an update (containing their own bloatware) to >> their customers. > > I found it amusing that the supposed computer "consultant" Alan"Dick" > Baker couldn't speak to you civilly. Actually, Alan Baker did respond to JF Mezei in a civil manner. Apparently, you are referencing Alan's response to "Your Name", who said that things like GarageBand, Dashboard, and so on are Apple-installed "bloatware", which is an incorrect characterization of those programs in the opinions of the many folks who do find them to be useful. It's no surprise you made this mistake in attribution since you posted from the Google Groups interface, which hides quoting and attributions by default. That's no excuse though. It's certainly not hard to figure out who says what to whom - even with the Google Groups interface. All you have to do, after all, is click the little link that says "show quoted text". You'll need to figure that out if you don't want to look foolish in the future. > He is a prolific keyboard warrior who only insults behind the safety > of his keyboard. > > Last year, in real life, someone broke his face for opening his big > mouth. His injuries required stitches. Doubt it. Sounds more like a lame little story you made up. Feel free to provide objective information that we can use to vet your story ourselves. Until then I'll assume you are lying through your teeth. And I won't hold my breath, for obvious reasons. > They now ignore the jerk on all the other groups. > > He is a little, lard assed coward, without a chin. It appears you are also a "prolific keyboard warrior who only insults behind the safety of his keyboard". Small world! -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> |
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| Date | 2015-03-03 10:14 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <md4tmc$6mk$1@news.datemas.de> |
| In reply to | #70410 |
On 2015-03-03 18:02:02 +0000, Jolly Roger said: > On 2015-03-03, awoolmeyer@gmail.com <awoolmeyer@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Thursday, February 19, 2015 at 4:45:08 PM UTC-5, JF Mezei wrote: >>> >>> This is one of the HUGE advantages Apple has over competition for both >>> computers and iDevices. No manufacturer or wireless network allowed to >>> add thyeir bloatware onto the Apple device and everyone gets the same OS >>> irrespective of whom they bought the device from. >>> >>> And this also means that when Apple issues software updates, everyone >>> can install them. In the case of Android, software updates are first >>> sent to hardware manufacturers who *can* then decide to generate a >>> hardware specific update which is then sent to wireless carriers who >>> *can* then decide to issue an update (containing their own bloatware) to >>> their customers. >> >> I found it amusing that the supposed computer "consultant" Alan"Dick" >> Baker couldn't speak to you civilly. > > Actually, Alan Baker did respond to JF Mezei in a civil manner. > > Apparently, you are referencing Alan's response to "Your Name", who said > that things like GarageBand, Dashboard, and so on are Apple-installed > "bloatware", which is an incorrect characterization of those programs in > the opinions of the many folks who do find them to be useful. > > It's no surprise you made this mistake in attribution since you posted > from the Google Groups interface, which hides quoting and attributions > by default. That's no excuse though. It's certainly not hard to figure > out who says what to whom - even with the Google Groups interface. All > you have to do, after all, is click the little link that says "show > quoted text". You'll need to figure that out if you don't want to look > foolish in the future. > >> He is a prolific keyboard warrior who only insults behind the safety >> of his keyboard. >> >> Last year, in real life, someone broke his face for opening his big >> mouth. His injuries required stitches. > > Doubt it. Sounds more like a lame little story you made up. Feel free to > provide objective information that we can use to vet your story > ourselves. Until then I'll assume you are lying through your teeth. And > I won't hold my breath, for obvious reasons. > >> They now ignore the jerk on all the other groups. >> >> He is a little, lard assed coward, without a chin. > > It appears you are also a "prolific keyboard warrior who only insults > behind the safety of his keyboard". Small world! Thanks, JR. Michael Patelmo (I believe) is a sad little man who has taken to following me from group to group; so much does he smart from being bested in arguments. :-)
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| From | awoolmeyer@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2015-03-03 11:54 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <6b124f89-cc18-4c13-bb7c-97b44dcdb965@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #70410 |
On Tuesday, March 3, 2015 at 1:02:05 PM UTC-5, Jolly Roger wrote: > On 2015-03-03, awoolmeyer@gmail.com <awoolmeyer@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Thursday, February 19, 2015 at 4:45:08 PM UTC-5, JF Mezei wrote: > >> > >> This is one of the HUGE advantages Apple has over competition for both > >> computers and iDevices. No manufacturer or wireless network allowed to > >> add thyeir bloatware onto the Apple device and everyone gets the same OS > >> irrespective of whom they bought the device from. > >> > >> And this also means that when Apple issues software updates, everyone > >> can install them. In the case of Android, software updates are first > >> sent to hardware manufacturers who *can* then decide to generate a > >> hardware specific update which is then sent to wireless carriers who > >> *can* then decide to issue an update (containing their own bloatware) to > >> their customers. > > > > I found it amusing that the supposed computer "consultant" Alan"Dick" > > Baker couldn't speak to you civilly. > > Actually, Alan Baker did respond to JF Mezei in a civil manner. > > Apparently, you are referencing Alan's response to "Your Name", who said > that things like GarageBand, Dashboard, and so on are Apple-installed > "bloatware", which is an incorrect characterization of those programs in > the opinions of the many folks who do find them to be useful. > > It's no surprise you made this mistake in attribution since you posted > from the Google Groups interface, which hides quoting and attributions > by default. That's no excuse though. It's certainly not hard to figure > out who says what to whom - even with the Google Groups interface. All > you have to do, after all, is click the little link that says "show > quoted text". You'll need to figure that out if you don't want to look > foolish in the future. > > > He is a prolific keyboard warrior who only insults behind the safety > > of his keyboard. > > > > Last year, in real life, someone broke his face for opening his big > > mouth. His injuries required stitches. > > Doubt it. Sounds more like a lame little story you made up. Feel free to > provide objective information that we can use to vet your story > ourselves. Until then I'll assume you are lying through your teeth. And > I won't hold my breath, for obvious reasons. > > > They now ignore the jerk on all the other groups. > > > > He is a little, lard assed coward, without a chin. > > It appears you are also a "prolific keyboard warrior who only insults > behind the safety of his keyboard". Small world! > > -- > E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. > I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. > > JR Oops, my bad. Sorry for insulting your man friend. When are you going to suck each others dicks again? Soon you hope.
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| From | Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> |
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| Date | 2015-03-03 12:03 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <md541q$hg5$1@news.datemas.de> |
| In reply to | #70414 |
On 2015-03-03 19:54:39 +0000, awoolmeyer@gmail.com said: > On Tuesday, March 3, 2015 at 1:02:05 PM UTC-5, Jolly Roger wrote: >> On 2015-03-03, awoolmeyer@gmail.com <awoolmeyer@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Thursday, February 19, 2015 at 4:45:08 PM UTC-5, JF Mezei wrote: >>>> >>>> This is one of the HUGE advantages Apple has over competition for both >>>> computers and iDevices. No manufacturer or wireless network allowed to >>>> add thyeir bloatware onto the Apple device and everyone gets the same OS >>>> irrespective of whom they bought the device from. >>>> >>>> And this also means that when Apple issues software updates, everyone >>>> can install them. In the case of Android, software updates are first >>>> sent to hardware manufacturers who *can* then decide to generate a >>>> hardware specific update which is then sent to wireless carriers who >>>> *can* then decide to issue an update (containing their own bloatware) to >>>> their customers. >>> >>> I found it amusing that the supposed computer "consultant" Alan"Dick" >>> Baker couldn't speak to you civilly. >> >> Actually, Alan Baker did respond to JF Mezei in a civil manner. >> >> Apparently, you are referencing Alan's response to "Your Name", who said >> that things like GarageBand, Dashboard, and so on are Apple-installed >> "bloatware", which is an incorrect characterization of those programs in >> the opinions of the many folks who do find them to be useful. >> >> It's no surprise you made this mistake in attribution since you posted >> from the Google Groups interface, which hides quoting and attributions >> by default. That's no excuse though. It's certainly not hard to figure >> out who says what to whom - even with the Google Groups interface. All >> you have to do, after all, is click the little link that says "show >> quoted text". You'll need to figure that out if you don't want to look >> foolish in the future. >> >>> He is a prolific keyboard warrior who only insults behind the safety >>> of his keyboard. >>> >>> Last year, in real life, someone broke his face for opening his big >>> mouth. His injuries required stitches. >> >> Doubt it. Sounds more like a lame little story you made up. Feel free to >> provide objective information that we can use to vet your story >> ourselves. Until then I'll assume you are lying through your teeth. And >> I won't hold my breath, for obvious reasons. >> >>> They now ignore the jerk on all the other groups. >>> >>> He is a little, lard assed coward, without a chin. >> >> It appears you are also a "prolific keyboard warrior who only insults >> behind the safety of his keyboard". Small world! >> >> -- >> E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. >> I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. >> > >> JR > > Oops, my bad. Sorry for insulting your man friend. > > When are you going to suck each others dicks again? Soon you hope. JR: Isn't great when people go out of their way to let you know that they are assholes? It makes life much simpler. :-)
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2015-03-03 20:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <clmlfkF3jdtU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #70415 |
On 2015-03-03, Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote: > > JR: Isn't great when people go out of their way to let you know that > they are assholes? It makes life much simpler. > >:-) He's a goner. : ) -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> |
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| Date | 2015-03-04 09:23 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <040320150923340090%michelle@michelle.org> |
| In reply to | #70414 |
In article <6b124f89-cc18-4c13-bb7c-97b44dcdb965@googlegroups.com>, <awoolmeyer@gmail.com> wrote: > When are you going to suck each others dicks again? Soon you hope. So you're a homophobe. Why am I not surprised?
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| From | Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> |
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| Date | 2015-03-04 09:08 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <040320150908305831%michelle@michelle.org> |
| In reply to | #70410 |
In article <clmb8qFsmh1U4@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > It appears you are also a "prolific keyboard warrior who only insults > behind the safety of his keyboard". Small world! Drop the "also".
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