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?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5?

Started byFred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org>
First post2015-04-30 14:14 -0400
Last post2015-05-02 20:33 -0700
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  ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-04-30 14:14 -0400
    Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-30 14:44 -0400
      Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-05-01 12:19 -0400
        Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Warren Oates <Warren.Oates@gmail.com> - 2015-05-01 12:35 -0400
    Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-05-01 05:47 +0000
      Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-05-01 02:22 -0400
        Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-05-01 12:15 -0400
          Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-05-01 12:39 -0400
            Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-05-01 13:33 -0400
              Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2015-05-02 05:34 -0700
                Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-05-02 14:32 -0400
          Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-05-01 23:26 +0000
      Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-05-01 12:12 -0400
        Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-05-01 23:28 +0000
          Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-05-02 11:55 +1200
            Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-05-02 16:40 +0000
              Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-05-03 16:20 +1200
                Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-05-03 20:35 +0000
          Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-05-02 12:30 -0400
            Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-05-02 15:19 -0400
              Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-05-02 16:30 -0400
                Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-05-02 17:49 -0400
              Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-05-02 22:37 +0000
                Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-05-02 19:47 -0400
                Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-05-03 07:43 -0400
                  Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-05-03 20:36 +0000
                    Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-05-04 11:27 -0400
                      Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-05-05 03:25 +0000
                        Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-05-05 07:28 -0400
                          Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-05-05 14:40 +0000
                            Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-05-05 11:20 -0400
                              Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-05-05 19:53 +0000
                                Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-05-05 16:01 -0400
                                  Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-05-06 01:52 +0000
                Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? kevin.shirley1966@gmail.com (Kevin Shirley) - 2015-05-04 10:24 +0100
              Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-05-04 12:09 -0400
    Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Andreas Rutishauser <andreas@macandreas.ch> - 2015-05-01 09:17 +0200
      Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-05-01 12:25 -0400
        Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-05-02 11:40 +1200
          Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-05-01 19:51 -0400
          Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-05-02 12:22 -0400
            Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-05-03 16:20 +1200
              Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-05-04 11:49 -0400
        Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Andreas Rutishauser <andreas@macandreas.ch> - 2015-05-02 07:14 +0200
          Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-05-02 08:00 -0400
    Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-05-01 08:36 -0400
      Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-05-01 12:29 -0400
        Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-05-01 12:44 -0400
          Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-05-01 13:28 -0400
            Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-05-01 15:04 -0400
              Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-05-01 16:10 -0400
                Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-05-01 16:21 -0400
        Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-05-03 09:07 -0400
          Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-05-03 09:12 -0400
          Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-05-03 20:39 +0000
            Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-05-04 11:59 +1200
          Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-05-04 11:58 -0400
            Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-05-04 12:04 -0400
              Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-05-04 17:17 -0400
    Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? John Albert <j.albert@snet.net> - 2015-05-02 00:06 -0400
      Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-05-02 00:14 -0400
      Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-05-02 07:57 -0400
        Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-05-02 12:37 -0400
          Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-05-02 15:17 -0400
            Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-05-02 15:45 -0400
      Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-05-02 16:41 +0000
      Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-05-03 09:08 -0400
        Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-05-04 12:00 -0400
    Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-05-02 20:33 -0700

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#74651

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2015-05-02 00:14 -0400
Message-ID<020520150014594631%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#74650
In article <55444d10$0$10149$2c56edd9@usenetrocket.com>, John Albert
<j.albert@snet.net> wrote:

> With 10.9 or 10.10, I predict "performance" is going to be 
> something less than desired.
> As in,  S___L__O__W ...

bullshit.

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#74669

FromWarren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com>
Date2015-05-02 07:57 -0400
Message-ID<5544bbc0$0$42912$c3e8da3$5e5e430d@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#74650
In article <55444d10$0$10149$2c56edd9@usenetrocket.com>,
 John Albert <j.albert@snet.net> wrote:

> On 4/30/15 2:14 PM, Fred Moore wrote:
> >
> > My question is what is the latest OS to upgrade to that
> > won't produce a dead slow user experience? I'd love to
> > recommend 10.9, but not if they have to take a coffee break
> > at every webpage load or simple graphics operation. So 10.6,
> > 10.7, 10.8 or 10.9?
> 
> I suggest 10.8.5
> 
> With 10.9 or 10.10, I predict "performance" is going to be 
> something less than desired.
> As in,  S___L__O__W ...

Bullshit.  Core 2 Duo with 4 gigs RAM will run Yosemite snappily.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#74680

FromFred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org>
Date2015-05-02 12:37 -0400
Message-ID<mi2uf8$vpd$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#74669
On 5/2/15 7:57 a, Warren Oates wrote:
> In article <55444d10$0$10149$2c56edd9@usenetrocket.com>,
> John Albert <j.albert@snet.net> wrote:
>
>> On 4/30/15 2:14 PM, Fred Moore wrote:
>> >
>> > My question is what is the latest OS to upgrade to that
>> > won't produce a dead slow user experience? I'd love to
>> > recommend 10.9, but not if they have to take a coffee break
>> > at every webpage load or simple graphics operation. So 10.6,
>> > 10.7, 10.8 or 10.9?
>>
>> I suggest 10.8.5
>>
>> With 10.9 or 10.10, I predict "performance" is going to be something
>> less than desired.
>> As in,  S___L__O__W ...
>
> Bullshit.  Core 2 Duo with 4 gigs RAM will run Yosemite snappily.

Since I'm having a stichomythia with Lewis about the usability of 10.10 
and he tends to be a terse in his explanations, perhaps you'd care to 
expound on your use of 10.10. You don't have the gripes with the various 
interface items that so many others do? The gray-on-gray and hidden 
interface items would seem to be a genuine PITA. I've stayed on 10.9 
because those complaints are so numerous and so loud.

-- 
Gary Bettman's worst nightmare: Montreal vs. Calgary in the Stanley Cup 
Finals

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#74715

FromWarren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com>
Date2015-05-02 15:17 -0400
Message-ID<554522df$0$54559$c3e8da3$fdf4f6af@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#74680
In article <mi2uf8$vpd$1@dont-email.me>, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> 
wrote:

> The gray-on-gray and hidden 
> interface items would seem to be a genuine PITA.

I don't even know what that means. Seriously; I'm not being 
disingenuous. 

I've also not had the wireless problems that have been reported. The 
thing pops up from sleep connected.

The icons seemed a bit "flat" (artistically) at first, but I got used to 
it. Everything seems to work the way it used to and the way it should. I 
haven't got the oul' Woman's take on Photos yet -- I'm leaving her 
machine on Mavericks and iPhoto until her current project ends in June. 
If she's unhappy, we'll switch to Lightroom, which is superior anyway.

I have no complaints about Yosemite (except for the lack of Open 
Transport, but MTNW's days were already numbered). I keep my Desktop 
empty.

I loaded Yosemite into my old Mac Pro 1,1, and it seemed faster. It just 
doesn't like the graphics card.

Give me a list of complaints that I should have.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#74718

FromFred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org>
Date2015-05-02 15:45 -0400
Message-ID<mi39ed$fr7$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#74715
On 5/2/15 3:17 p, Warren Oates wrote:
> In article <mi2uf8$vpd$1@dont-email.me>, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org>
> wrote:
>
>> The gray-on-gray and hidden interface items would seem to be a genuine
>> PITA.
>
> I don't even know what that means. Seriously; I'm not being disingenuous.
> I've also not had the wireless problems that have been reported. The
> thing pops up from sleep connected.
>
> The icons seemed a bit "flat" (artistically) at first, but I got used to
> it. Everything seems to work the way it used to and the way it should. I
> haven't got the oul' Woman's take on Photos yet -- I'm leaving her
> machine on Mavericks and iPhoto until her current project ends in June.
> If she's unhappy, we'll switch to Lightroom, which is superior anyway.
>
> I have no complaints about Yosemite (except for the lack of Open
> Transport, but MTNW's days were already numbered). I keep my Desktop empty.
>
> I loaded Yosemite into my old Mac Pro 1,1, and it seemed faster. It just
> doesn't like the graphics card.
>
> Give me a list of complaints that I should have.

Since I'm not running 10.10, I don't have direct experience. However, go 
to the current panel of Macintouch's Yosemite discussion
<http://www.macintouch.com/readerreports/yosemite/index.html#d02may2015>
and search for 'hidden' (5 hits) or 'interface' (55 hits). Objections 
cover both the system as well as iTunes, Mail, and Photo. Of course, not 
all of them are complaints, but you'll get the idea of folk's dislikes.

Also if you Google for 'yosemite interface ugly' you'll get about 64,000 
hits. (I didn't add 'ugly' to the search spec. Google suggested it, 
presumably because so many people entered it.)

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#74683

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2015-05-02 16:41 +0000
Message-ID<slrnmk9vjt.mkn.g.kreme@amelia.local>
In reply to#74650
In message <55444d10$0$10149$2c56edd9@usenetrocket.com> 
  John Albert <j.albert@snet.net> wrote:
> On 4/30/15 2:14 PM, Fred Moore wrote:
>>
>> My question is what is the latest OS to upgrade to that
>> won't produce a dead slow user experience? I'd love to
>> recommend 10.9, but not if they have to take a coffee break
>> at every webpage load or simple graphics operation. So 10.6,
>> 10.7, 10.8 or 10.9?

> I suggest 10.8.5

> With 10.9 or 10.10, I predict "performance" is going to be 
> something less than desired.
> As in,  S___L__O__W ...

Nope. 10.10 is considerably quicker than 10.8 or 10.9 on the same
hardware.


-- 
Badges? We ain't got no badges. We don't need no badges. I don't have to
show you any stinking badges.

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#74741

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca>
Date2015-05-03 09:08 -0400
Message-ID<5tmdnTNrMKBUgNvInZ2dnUU7-S-dnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#74650
On 2015-05-02 00:06, John Albert wrote:
> On 4/30/15 2:14 PM, Fred Moore wrote:
>>
>> My question is what is the latest OS to upgrade to that
>> won't produce a dead slow user experience? I'd love to
>> recommend 10.9, but not if they have to take a coffee break
>> at every webpage load or simple graphics operation. So 10.6,
>> 10.7, 10.8 or 10.9?
>
> I suggest 10.8.5
>
> With 10.9 or 10.10, I predict "performance" is going to be something
> less than desired.
> As in,  S___L__O__W ...

Not at all.  My SO's 2007 MBA runs 10.9 on 2 GB of RAM without issue. 
His computer would do even better. Especially if he upgrades it to 6 GB 
of RAM.

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#74824

FromFred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org>
Date2015-05-04 12:00 -0400
Message-ID<mi851a$1qj$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#74741
On 5/3/15 9:08 a, Alan Browne wrote:
> On 2015-05-02 00:06, John Albert wrote:
>> On 4/30/15 2:14 PM, Fred Moore wrote:
>>>
>>> My question is what is the latest OS to upgrade to that
>>> won't produce a dead slow user experience? I'd love to
>>> recommend 10.9, but not if they have to take a coffee break
>>> at every webpage load or simple graphics operation. So 10.6,
>>> 10.7, 10.8 or 10.9?
>>
>> I suggest 10.8.5
>>
>> With 10.9 or 10.10, I predict "performance" is going to be something
>> less than desired.
>> As in,  S___L__O__W ...
>
> Not at all.  My SO's 2007 MBA runs 10.9 on 2 GB of RAM without issue.
> His computer would do even better. Especially if he upgrades it to 6 GB
> of RAM.

Thanks, that's very good to know.

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#74726

FromElectric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid>
Date2015-05-02 20:33 -0700
Message-ID<mi4521$tto$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#74531
On Thu, 30 Apr 2015 14:14:56 -0400
Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:

> The other alternative is to just buy a new machine. Do you think this
> OS upgrading is not worth the effort?

What do they do with the mac

a linux flavor would run all the basics nice

but it depends on what they're used to

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