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  ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-04-30 14:14 -0400
    Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-30 14:44 -0400
      Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-05-01 12:19 -0400
        Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Warren Oates <Warren.Oates@gmail.com> - 2015-05-01 12:35 -0400
    Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-05-01 05:47 +0000
      Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-05-01 02:22 -0400
        Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-05-01 12:15 -0400
          Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-05-01 12:39 -0400
            Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-05-01 13:33 -0400
              Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2015-05-02 05:34 -0700
                Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-05-02 14:32 -0400
          Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-05-01 23:26 +0000
      Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-05-01 12:12 -0400
        Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-05-01 23:28 +0000
          Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-05-02 11:55 +1200
            Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-05-02 16:40 +0000
              Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-05-03 16:20 +1200
                Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-05-03 20:35 +0000
          Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-05-02 12:30 -0400
            Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-05-02 15:19 -0400
              Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-05-02 16:30 -0400
                Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-05-02 17:49 -0400
              Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-05-02 22:37 +0000
                Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-05-02 19:47 -0400
                Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-05-03 07:43 -0400
                  Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-05-03 20:36 +0000
                    Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-05-04 11:27 -0400
                      Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-05-05 03:25 +0000
                        Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-05-05 07:28 -0400
                          Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-05-05 14:40 +0000
                            Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-05-05 11:20 -0400
                              Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-05-05 19:53 +0000
                                Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-05-05 16:01 -0400
                                  Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-05-06 01:52 +0000
                Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? kevin.shirley1966@gmail.com (Kevin Shirley) - 2015-05-04 10:24 +0100
              Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-05-04 12:09 -0400
    Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Andreas Rutishauser <andreas@macandreas.ch> - 2015-05-01 09:17 +0200
      Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-05-01 12:25 -0400
        Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-05-02 11:40 +1200
          Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-05-01 19:51 -0400
          Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-05-02 12:22 -0400
            Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-05-03 16:20 +1200
              Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-05-04 11:49 -0400
        Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Andreas Rutishauser <andreas@macandreas.ch> - 2015-05-02 07:14 +0200
          Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-05-02 08:00 -0400
    Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-05-01 08:36 -0400
      Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-05-01 12:29 -0400
        Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-05-01 12:44 -0400
          Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-05-01 13:28 -0400
            Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-05-01 15:04 -0400
              Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-05-01 16:10 -0400
                Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-05-01 16:21 -0400
        Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-05-03 09:07 -0400
          Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-05-03 09:12 -0400
          Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-05-03 20:39 +0000
            Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-05-04 11:59 +1200
          Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-05-04 11:58 -0400
            Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-05-04 12:04 -0400
              Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-05-04 17:17 -0400
    Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? John Albert <j.albert@snet.net> - 2015-05-02 00:06 -0400
      Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-05-02 00:14 -0400
      Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-05-02 07:57 -0400
        Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-05-02 12:37 -0400
          Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-05-02 15:17 -0400
            Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-05-02 15:45 -0400
      Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-05-02 16:41 +0000
      Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-05-03 09:08 -0400
        Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-05-04 12:00 -0400
    Re: ?Best Upgrade System for Old iMac 8,1 w/10.5? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-05-02 20:33 -0700

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#74720

On 5/2/15 3:19 p, Warren Oates wrote:
> In article <mi2u1g$u87$1@dont-email.me>, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org>
> wrote:
>
>> 'm still on 10.9. Sir Yawny is responsible for the unreadable
>> gray-on-gray and the hidden/obscure mechanics. A triumph of form over
>> function.
>
> Could someone post a screenshot of what is supposed to be wrong? I
> honestly haven't noticed anything weird about Yosemite.


Here is probably a decent article with a few pictures:
<http://www.maketecheasier.com/os-x-mavericks-vs-yosemite-ui/>

Otherwise, try the seach for 'yosemite interface ugly' which I mentioned 
in another post.

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#74721

In article <mi3c3q$q47$1@dont-email.me>, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> 
wrote:

> Here is probably a decent article with a few pictures:
> <http://www.maketecheasier.com/os-x-mavericks-vs-yosemite-ui/>
> 
> Otherwise, try the seach for 'yosemite interface ugly' which I mentioned 
> in another post.

Fair enough. I really hadn't taken exception to the changes. A while 
back, I thought the scroll-direction change was just fucking about for 
it's own sake (I use the scroll wheel on my mouse) but now I guess I 
dont' care. There are always gonna be changes. I want my Mac to look 
like this:

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Mac_OS#/media/File:Apple_Macint
osh_Desktop.png>

My Desktop was tidier than that.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#74724

In message <5545234c$0$54559$c3e8da3$fdf4f6af@news.astraweb.com> 
  Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <mi2u1g$u87$1@dont-email.me>, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> 
> wrote:

>> 'm still on 10.9. Sir Yawny is responsible for the unreadable 
>> gray-on-gray and the hidden/obscure mechanics. A triumph of form over 
>> function.

> Could someone post a screenshot of what is supposed to be wrong? I 
> honestly haven't noticed anything weird about Yosemite.

You're talking to someone so stupid he thinks that making fun of Johnny
Ive's name is the height of hilarity. Really, he's an obvious jackass.

-- 
Something wonderful, if you took the long view, was about to happen. If
you took the short or medium view, something horrible was about to
happen. It's like the difference between seeing a beautiful new star in
the winter sky and actually being close to the supernova. It's the
difference between the beauty of morning dew on a cobweb and actually
being a fly. --Reaper Man

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#74725

On 5/2/15 6:37 p, Lewis wrote:
> In message <5545234c$0$54559$c3e8da3$fdf4f6af@news.astraweb.com>
>    Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
>> In article <mi2u1g$u87$1@dont-email.me>, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org>
>> wrote:
>
>>> 'm still on 10.9. Sir Yawny is responsible for the unreadable
>>> gray-on-gray and the hidden/obscure mechanics. A triumph of form over
>>> function.
>
>> Could someone post a screenshot of what is supposed to be wrong? I
>> honestly haven't noticed anything weird about Yosemite.
>
> You're talking to someone so stupid he thinks that making fun of Johnny
> Ive's name is the height of hilarity. Really, he's an obvious jackass.

Have an extraordinarily nice day, Lewis!  ;)

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#74736

In article <slrnmkakf9.p8m.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> In message <5545234c$0$54559$c3e8da3$fdf4f6af@news.astraweb.com> 
>   Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In article <mi2u1g$u87$1@dont-email.me>, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> 
> > wrote:
> 
> >> 'm still on 10.9. Sir Yawny is responsible for the unreadable 
> >> gray-on-gray and the hidden/obscure mechanics. A triumph of form over 
> >> function.
> 
> > Could someone post a screenshot of what is supposed to be wrong? I 
> > honestly haven't noticed anything weird about Yosemite.
> 
> You're talking to someone so stupid he thinks that making fun of Johnny
> Ive's name is the height of hilarity. Really, he's an obvious jackass.

Is this something that offends you? Like, I dunno, mocking the 
Profiterole Mohammed? Gonna go on a jihad Louie?
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#74778

In message <554609da$0$29523$c3e8da3$e074e489@news.astraweb.com> 
  Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <slrnmkakf9.p8m.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
>  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>> In message <5545234c$0$54559$c3e8da3$fdf4f6af@news.astraweb.com> 
>>   Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > In article <mi2u1g$u87$1@dont-email.me>, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> 
>> > wrote:
>> 
>> >> 'm still on 10.9. Sir Yawny is responsible for the unreadable 
>> >> gray-on-gray and the hidden/obscure mechanics. A triumph of form over 
>> >> function.
>> 
>> > Could someone post a screenshot of what is supposed to be wrong? I 
>> > honestly haven't noticed anything weird about Yosemite.
>> 
>> You're talking to someone so stupid he thinks that making fun of Johnny
>> Ive's name is the height of hilarity. Really, he's an obvious jackass.

> Is this something that offends you?

No, I just think it is juvenile and stupid and says far more about the
person doing it than they probably realize.

-- 
IT IS NOT YET MIDNIGHT?  'I shouldn't think it's more than a quarter
past eleven.' THEN WE HAVE THREE-QUARTERS OF AN HOUR 'How can you be
sure?' BECAUSE OF DRAMA, MISS FLITWORTH.. THE KIND OF DEATH WHO POSES
AGAINST THE SKYLINE AND GETS LIT UP BY LIGHTNING FLASHES, said Bill
Door, disapprovingly, DOESN'T TURN UP AT FIVE-AND-TWENTY PAST ELEVEN IF
HE CAN POSSIBLY TURN UP AT MIDNIGHT.

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#74819

On 5/3/15 4:36 p, Lewis wrote:
> In message <554609da$0$29523$c3e8da3$e074e489@news.astraweb.com>
>    Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
>> In article <slrnmkakf9.p8m.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
>>   Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>
>>> In message <5545234c$0$54559$c3e8da3$fdf4f6af@news.astraweb.com>
>>>    Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> In article <mi2u1g$u87$1@dont-email.me>, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> 'm still on 10.9. Sir Yawny is responsible for the unreadable
>>>>> gray-on-gray and the hidden/obscure mechanics. A triumph of form over
>>>>> function.
>>>
>>>> Could someone post a screenshot of what is supposed to be wrong? I
>>>> honestly haven't noticed anything weird about Yosemite.
>>>
>>> You're talking to someone so stupid he thinks that making fun of Johnny
>>> Ive's name is the height of hilarity. Really, he's an obvious jackass.
>
>> Is this something that offends you?
>
> No, I just think it is juvenile and stupid and says far more about the
> person doing it than they probably realize.

And the record clearly shows that, with no provocation whatsoever, you 
descended to ad homonem vulgarity. What does that say about you?

And I do so very much hope you had an extraordinarily nice day.  :-D

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#74867

In message <mi832t$pvd$1@dont-email.me> 
  Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:
> On 5/3/15 4:36 p, Lewis wrote:
>> In message <554609da$0$29523$c3e8da3$e074e489@news.astraweb.com>
>>    Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> In article <slrnmkakf9.p8m.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
>>>   Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>
>>>> In message <5545234c$0$54559$c3e8da3$fdf4f6af@news.astraweb.com>
>>>>    Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> In article <mi2u1g$u87$1@dont-email.me>, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> 'm still on 10.9. Sir Yawny is responsible for the unreadable
>>>>>> gray-on-gray and the hidden/obscure mechanics. A triumph of form over
>>>>>> function.
>>>>
>>>>> Could someone post a screenshot of what is supposed to be wrong? I
>>>>> honestly haven't noticed anything weird about Yosemite.
>>>>
>>>> You're talking to someone so stupid he thinks that making fun of Johnny
>>>> Ive's name is the height of hilarity. Really, he's an obvious jackass.
>>
>>> Is this something that offends you?
>>
>> No, I just think it is juvenile and stupid and says far more about the
>> person doing it than they probably realize.

> And the record clearly shows that, with no provocation whatsoever, you 
> descended to ad homonem vulgarity. What does that say about you?

Check your facts. I simply kill filed him when he made fun of Ive's
name and said "I'm done talking to you".


-- 
'They say that whoever pays the piper calls the tune.' 'But, gentlemen,'
said Mr Saveloy, 'whoever holds a knife to the piper's throat writes the
symphony.' --Interesting Times

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#74876

In article <slrnmkge44.ba6.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> Check your facts. I simply kill filed him when he made fun of Ive's
> name and said "I'm done talking to you".

Because that was a Mortal Sin, eh Louie?
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#74884

In message <5548a955$0$26170$b1db1813$79461190@news.astraweb.com> 
  Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <slrnmkge44.ba6.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
>  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>> Check your facts. I simply kill filed him when he made fun of Ive's
>> name and said "I'm done talking to you".

> Because that was a Mortal Sin, eh Louie?

First off, my name is not Louie and never has been.

Second, "mortal sin"? Really?

Not that I believe in mortal sins, but that has nothing to do with
talking to asshats. 

-- 
Where am I going and why am I in this handbasket?

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#74888

In article <slrnmkhlkq.i7r.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> In message <5548a955$0$26170$b1db1813$79461190@news.astraweb.com> 
>   Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In article <slrnmkge44.ba6.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
> >  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> 
> >> Check your facts. I simply kill filed him when he made fun of Ive's
> >> name and said "I'm done talking to you".
> 
> > Because that was a Mortal Sin, eh Louie?
> 
> First off, my name is not Louie and never has been.
> 
> Second, "mortal sin"? Really?
> 
> Not that I believe in mortal sins, but that has nothing to do with
> talking to asshats.

So why do you care if someone makes fun of Yawne Jives? Jevie Stobs? 
Have you never written Windohs? Or Micro$oft?
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#74902

In message <5548dfcb$0$42915$c3e8da3$5e5e430d@news.astraweb.com> 
  Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <slrnmkhlkq.i7r.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
>  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>> In message <5548a955$0$26170$b1db1813$79461190@news.astraweb.com> 
>>   Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > In article <slrnmkge44.ba6.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
>> >  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>> 
>> >> Check your facts. I simply kill filed him when he made fun of Ive's
>> >> name and said "I'm done talking to you".
>> 
>> > Because that was a Mortal Sin, eh Louie?
>> 
>> First off, my name is not Louie and never has been.
>> 
>> Second, "mortal sin"? Really?
>> 
>> Not that I believe in mortal sins, but that has nothing to do with
>> talking to asshats.

> So why do you care if someone makes fun of Yawne Jives? Jevie Stobs? 

I don't care if they do it, I simply will not talk to those sorts of
people.

-- 
History has a habit of changing the people who think they are changing
it.

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#74903

In article <slrnmki7vu.i7r.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> In message <5548dfcb$0$42915$c3e8da3$5e5e430d@news.astraweb.com> 
>   Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In article <slrnmkhlkq.i7r.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
> >  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> 
> >> In message <5548a955$0$26170$b1db1813$79461190@news.astraweb.com> 
> >>   Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > In article <slrnmkge44.ba6.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
> >> >  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> >> 
> >> >> Check your facts. I simply kill filed him when he made fun of Ive's
> >> >> name and said "I'm done talking to you".
> >> 
> >> > Because that was a Mortal Sin, eh Louie?
> >> 
> >> First off, my name is not Louie and never has been.
> >> 
> >> Second, "mortal sin"? Really?
> >> 
> >> Not that I believe in mortal sins, but that has nothing to do with
> >> talking to asshats.
> 
> > So why do you care if someone makes fun of Yawne Jives? Jevie Stobs? 
> 
> I don't care if they do it, I simply will not talk to those sorts of
> people.

Ooh. You're like a scientologist then, or a Mozlem? The profiterole 
Mohamned comes to mind.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#74941

In message <55492191$0$1538$c3e8da3$e408f015@news.astraweb.com> 
  Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <slrnmki7vu.i7r.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
>  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>> In message <5548dfcb$0$42915$c3e8da3$5e5e430d@news.astraweb.com> 
>>   Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > In article <slrnmkhlkq.i7r.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
>> >  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>> 
>> >> In message <5548a955$0$26170$b1db1813$79461190@news.astraweb.com> 
>> >>   Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > In article <slrnmkge44.ba6.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
>> >> >  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> >> Check your facts. I simply kill filed him when he made fun of Ive's
>> >> >> name and said "I'm done talking to you".
>> >> 
>> >> > Because that was a Mortal Sin, eh Louie?
>> >> 
>> >> First off, my name is not Louie and never has been.
>> >> 
>> >> Second, "mortal sin"? Really?
>> >> 
>> >> Not that I believe in mortal sins, but that has nothing to do with
>> >> talking to asshats.
>> 
>> > So why do you care if someone makes fun of Yawne Jives? Jevie Stobs? 
>> 
>> I don't care if they do it, I simply will not talk to those sorts of
>> people.

> Ooh. You're like a scientologist then, or a Mozlem?

You're blithering nonsense again.


-- 
in the long run there's still time to change the road you're on

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#74805

Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> You're talking to someone so stupid he thinks that making fun of Johnny
> Ive's name is the height of hilarity. Really, he's an obvious jackass.

Rather like those who who believe the following is height of hilarity,
M$, Microsloth, Windoze or are those OK

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#74826

On 5/2/15 3:19 p, Warren Oates wrote:
> In article <mi2u1g$u87$1@dont-email.me>, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org>
> wrote:
>
>> 'm still on 10.9. Sir Yawny is responsible for the unreadable
>> gray-on-gray and the hidden/obscure mechanics. A triumph of form over
>> function.
>
> Could someone post a screenshot of what is supposed to be wrong? I
> honestly haven't noticed anything weird about Yosemite.

Well, let's go to the source. Today's Macintouch published this link to 
Apple's 10.10 HIG manual (free):

<https://itunes.apple.com/us/book/os-x-human-interface-guidelines/id930571558>

The iOS HIG, published last year, is also available on that page.

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#74574

Salut Fred

In article <mhtrd2$k48$1@dont-email.me>, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> 
wrote:

> I have some friends who have an iMac 8,1 early 2008 Intel, 4GB RAM (the 
> max), and running OS 10.5. According to MacTracker, the machine will run 
> up to to 10.9. 

it seems you are running an old version of Mactracker. Mine tells me 
this machine can run the latest release of OS X and max. 6GB RAM.

> They are having problems with some websites not working 
> properly and demanding later versions of Safari, Flash, and other apps 
> which won't run on 10.5
> 
> My question is what is the latest OS to upgrade to that won't produce a 
> dead slow user experience? I'd love to recommend 10.9, but not if they 
> have to take a coffee break at every webpage load or simple graphics 
> operation. So 10.6, 10.7, 10.8 or 10.9?
> 
> Also, what are the mechanics of upgrading. Do they have to buy 10.6 from 
> Apple for $20, install it, and then use the App Store from there for 
> higher versions?

Yes, that is the official version: buy 10.6 fom Apple (which will be a 
10.6.3 DVD), upgrade it to 10.6.8 with Software Update (ca. 1.06GB 
download). From the App Store you won't be able to "buy" any OS version 
than Yosemite  (more than 5GB download).

Be aware that PPC programs won't run on OSs later than 10.6.x.
Some Apps like iPhoto will require tools to upgrade the database. 
> 
> The other alternative is to just buy a new machine. Do you think this OS 
> upgrading is not worth the effort?

If you want to migrate your data from the existing iMac to a new one, 
you have to update the old one to 10.6.x anyway...
I recommend doing the migration via FireWire (faster than networked). 
Then you'd need a FireWire 800 cable and a Thunderbolt to FireWire 
adapter...

Cheers
Andreas

-- 
MacAndreas Rutishauser, <http://www.MacAndreas.ch> 
EDV-Dienstleistungen, Hard- und Software, Internet und Netzwerk
Beratung, Unterstuetzung und Schulung
<mailto:andreas@MacAndreas.ch>, Fon: 044 / 721 36 47

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#74603

On 5/1/15 3:17 a, Andreas Rutishauser wrote:
> Salut Fred
>
> In article <mhtrd2$k48$1@dont-email.me>, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org>
> wrote:
>
>> I have some friends who have an iMac 8,1 early 2008 Intel, 4GB RAM (the
>> max), and running OS 10.5. According to MacTracker, the machine will run
>> up to to 10.9.
>
> it seems you are running an old version of Mactracker. Mine tells me
> this machine can run the latest release of OS X and max. 6GB RAM.

My version of MacTracker is old because it didn't mention 10.10 as an OS 
alternative. However, on the 6GB of RAM issue, evidently the machine can 
indeed take up to 6GB, though Apple officially says only 4GB, which is 
what's installed. I'm hesitant to go to the expense of having them 
replace one of the existing 2GB modules with a 4GB because the machine 
is so old.

>> They are having problems with some websites not working
>> properly and demanding later versions of Safari, Flash, and other apps
>> which won't run on 10.5
>>
>> My question is what is the latest OS to upgrade to that won't produce a
>> dead slow user experience? I'd love to recommend 10.9, but not if they
>> have to take a coffee break at every webpage load or simple graphics
>> operation. So 10.6, 10.7, 10.8 or 10.9?
>>
>> Also, what are the mechanics of upgrading. Do they have to buy 10.6 from
>> Apple for $20, install it, and then use the App Store from there for
>> higher versions?
>
> Yes, that is the official version: buy 10.6 fom Apple (which will be a
> 10.6.3 DVD), upgrade it to 10.6.8 with Software Update (ca. 1.06GB
> download). From the App Store you won't be able to "buy" any OS version
> than Yosemite  (more than 5GB download).
>
> Be aware that PPC programs won't run on OSs later than 10.6.x.
> Some Apps like iPhoto will require tools to upgrade the database.
>>
>> The other alternative is to just buy a new machine. Do you think this OS
>> upgrading is not worth the effort?
>
> If you want to migrate your data from the existing iMac to a new one,
> you have to update the old one to 10.6.x anyway...

Not to pick a nit, but importing data from a 10.5 (Intel) diskimage 
should work, right?

> I recommend doing the migration via FireWire (faster than networked).
> Then you'd need a FireWire 800 cable and a Thunderbolt to FireWire
> adapter...

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#74639

Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:

> On 5/1/15 3:17 a, Andreas Rutishauser wrote:
> > Salut Fred
> >
> > In article <mhtrd2$k48$1@dont-email.me>, Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I have some friends who have an iMac 8,1 early 2008 Intel, 4GB RAM (the
> >> max), and running OS 10.5. According to MacTracker, the machine will run
> >> up to to 10.9.
> >
> > it seems you are running an old version of Mactracker. Mine tells me
> > this machine can run the latest release of OS X and max. 6GB RAM.
> 
> My version of MacTracker is old because it didn't mention 10.10 as an OS
> alternative. However, on the 6GB of RAM issue, evidently the machine can
> indeed take up to 6GB, though Apple officially says only 4GB, which is
> what's installed. I'm hesitant to go to the expense of having them 
> replace one of the existing 2GB modules with a 4GB because the machine
> is so old.

Apple doesn't do aftermarket memory upgrades. You would need to get the
memory from somewhere like Other World Computing and install it
yourself.

It isn't particularly cost effective: the 4 GB module required for that
model is over US$100, which is more than three times the price of the
corresponding 2 GB module.

http://eshop.macsales.com/item/OWC/5300DDR2S4GB/

If you can justify the cost, it is probably worth it for the likely
performance boost (assuming the same working set: less need for memory
compression and less hard drive activity from swapping).

> >> The other alternative is to just buy a new machine. Do you think this OS
> >> upgrading is not worth the effort?
> >
> > If you want to migrate your data from the existing iMac to a new one,
> > you have to update the old one to 10.6.x anyway...
> 
> Not to pick a nit, but importing data from a 10.5 (Intel) diskimage 
> should work, right?

Not if you want to use Migration Assistant (or Setup Assistant during
initial setup). For recent OS X versions, the source Mac for a migration
must be running 10.6 or later.

It was possible to migrate from 10.5 to 10.8, but not from 10.5 to 10.9
or 10.10. In fact, Apple stretched the minimum version by one for 10.10:
for 10.6 through 10.9, the limit was migrating from three versions
earlier.

Manual copying from 10.5 to 10.10 is possible, but a lot more work as
you would have to export a fair amount of stuff on the old Mac which is
stored in databases (e.g. Address Book, iCal) and import it on the new
Mac.

-- 
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

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#74642

In article <1m3skbl.1s8dsv51jwmfaiN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz>, David
Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:

> It isn't particularly cost effective: the 4 GB module required for that
> model is over US$100, which is more than three times the price of the
> corresponding 2 GB module.

it's less elsewhere.

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