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I.P. address notification of change or setting up static address

Started byTom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca>
First post2015-01-09 19:20 -0800
Last post2015-01-11 08:33 -0500
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  I.P. address notification of change or setting up static address Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2015-01-09 19:20 -0800
    Re: I.P. address notification of change or setting up static address Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-01-10 16:29 +1300
      Re: I.P. address notification of change or setting up static address Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2015-01-09 22:10 -0600
    Re: I.P. address notification of change or setting up static address Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-10 14:44 +0000
      Re: I.P. address notification of change or setting up static address Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2015-01-12 07:25 -0800
        Re: I.P. address notification of change or setting up static address Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-12 15:54 +0000
          Re: I.P. address notification of change or setting up static address Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2015-01-12 17:21 -0800
            Re: I.P. address notification of change or setting up static address Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-01-13 03:28 +0000
              Re: I.P. address notification of change or setting up static address Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2015-01-13 08:06 -0800
                Re: I.P. address notification of change or setting up static address Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-13 16:39 +0000
              Re: I.P. address notification of change or setting up static address Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-13 16:37 +0000
    Re: I.P. address notification of change or setting up static address Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-01-10 15:25 +0000
      Re: I.P. address notification of change or setting up static address Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-01-11 08:33 -0500

#68186 — I.P. address notification of change or setting up static address

FromTom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca>
Date2015-01-09 19:20 -0800
SubjectI.P. address notification of change or setting up static address
Message-ID<2015010919201647129-tomevans9890@yahoo.ca>
Are these accurate instructions for setting a static I.P. address?:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3s-We2YdQc

I'm trying to get a static I.P. address so that my own clicks on my Web 
site are excluded from my Web site hits.

Or should I use the program called "I.P. Notification" instead?

Tom Evans

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#68187

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2015-01-10 16:29 +1300
Message-ID<100120151629247593%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to#68186
In article <2015010919201647129-tomevans9890@yahoo.ca>, Tom Evans
<tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> 
> Are these accurate instructions for setting a static I.P. address?:
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3s-We2YdQc
> 
> I'm trying to get a static I.P. address so that my own clicks on my Web 
> site are excluded from my Web site hits.
> 
> Or should I use the program called "I.P. Notification" instead?

A static IP address is set-up by your Internet provider, and usually
means paying more for the privilege.

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#68189

FromLloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com>
Date2015-01-09 22:10 -0600
Message-ID<chbn16F80nqU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#68187
On 10 Jan 2015 16:29, Your Name wrote:
> In article <2015010919201647129-tomevans9890@yahoo.ca>, Tom Evans
> <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>
>> Are these accurate instructions for setting a static I.P. address?:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3s-We2YdQc
>>
>> I'm trying to get a static I.P. address so that my own clicks on my Web
>> site are excluded from my Web site hits.
>>
>> Or should I use the program called "I.P. Notification" instead?
>
> A static IP address is set-up by your Internet provider, and usually
> means paying more for the privilege.
>
And quite a few of them these days won't do it for home use.

-- 
Lloyd

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#68194

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-01-10 14:44 +0000
Message-ID<chcs6sFgromU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#68186
On 2015-01-10, Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> Are these accurate instructions for setting a static I.P. address?:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3s-We2YdQc
>
> I'm trying to get a static I.P. address so that my own clicks on my Web 
> site are excluded from my Web site hits.
>
> Or should I use the program called "I.P. Notification" instead?

While you certainly do have control over the IP addresses within your
local area network (LAN), you do not have control over the IP address of
your modem or router, since that is assigned by your internet service
provider. If you have typical home internet service through a cable,
DSL, or fiber connection, your IP address will be dynamic (not static)
unless you pay extra for a static IP address. 

Can you tell us more about why you want to exclude your IP address?
Also, what do you mean by "web site hits"? Do you mean the Apache log
files, or perhaps hit counters on certain web pages, or what?

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#68300

FromTom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca>
Date2015-01-12 07:25 -0800
Message-ID<2015011207254435509-tomevans9890@yahoo.ca>
In reply to#68194
On 2015-01-10 14:44:45 +0000, Jolly Roger said:

> On 2015-01-10, Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>> Are these accurate instructions for setting a static I.P. address?:
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3s-We2YdQc
>> 
>> I'm trying to get a static I.P. address so that my own clicks on my Web
>> site are excluded from my Web site hits.
>> 
>> Or should I use the program called "I.P. Notification" instead?
> 
> While you certainly do have control over the IP addresses within your
> local area network (LAN), you do not have control over the IP address of
> your modem or router, since that is assigned by your internet service
> provider. If you have typical home internet service through a cable,
> DSL, or fiber connection, your IP address will be dynamic (not static)
> unless you pay extra for a static IP address.
> 
> Can you tell us more about why you want to exclude your IP address?
> Also, what do you mean by "web site hits"? Do you mean the Apache log
> files, or perhaps hit counters on certain web pages, or what?

I want to exclude my own clicks on my Web site pages from my Google 
Analytics Web site statistics for my Web site, so don't get an 
artificically inflated number of clcks shown.

I've been using I.P. Notification to block my own I.P. address's clicks 
from being counted , but recently I noticed that the email notification 
I had set up in that program isn't working anymore.  The program is 
supposed to email me when my exteranl I.P. address changes, to nofitify 
me that I must update my I.P. address filtered in Google Analytics.

Tom Evans

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#68303

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-01-12 15:54 +0000
Message-ID<chi91sFsr3tU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#68300
On 2015-01-12, Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> On 2015-01-10 14:44:45 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
>
>> On 2015-01-10, Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>> Are these accurate instructions for setting a static I.P. address?:
>>> 
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3s-We2YdQc
>>> 
>>> I'm trying to get a static I.P. address so that my own clicks on my Web
>>> site are excluded from my Web site hits.
>>> 
>>> Or should I use the program called "I.P. Notification" instead?
>> 
>> While you certainly do have control over the IP addresses within your
>> local area network (LAN), you do not have control over the IP address of
>> your modem or router, since that is assigned by your internet service
>> provider. If you have typical home internet service through a cable,
>> DSL, or fiber connection, your IP address will be dynamic (not static)
>> unless you pay extra for a static IP address.
>> 
>> Can you tell us more about why you want to exclude your IP address?
>> Also, what do you mean by "web site hits"? Do you mean the Apache log
>> files, or perhaps hit counters on certain web pages, or what?
>
> I want to exclude my own clicks on my Web site pages from my Google 
> Analytics Web site statistics for my Web site, so don't get an 
> artificically inflated number of clcks shown.

If you get so little traffic that your own clicks are changing analytics
significantly, you've got *very* low traffic.

> I've been using I.P. Notification to block my own I.P. address's clicks 
> from being counted , but recently I noticed that the email notification 
> I had set up in that program isn't working anymore.  The program is 
> supposed to email me when my exteranl I.P. address changes, to nofitify 
> me that I must update my I.P. address filtered in Google Analytics.

If this really matters to you, using Google Analytics filters to filter
out your IP address seems to be the recommended way to go:

<https://support.google.com/analytics/answer/1034840?hl=en>

So it appears you are already doing the right thing.

Not sure what to tell you about this "IP Notification" program.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#68326

FromTom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca>
Date2015-01-12 17:21 -0800
Message-ID<2015011217215734022-tomevans9890@yahoo.ca>
In reply to#68303
On 2015-01-12 15:54:36 +0000, Jolly Roger said:

> On 2015-01-12, Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>> On 2015-01-10 14:44:45 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
>> 
>>> On 2015-01-10, Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>>> Are these accurate instructions for setting a static I.P. address?:
>>>> 
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3s-We2YdQc
>>>> 
>>>> I'm trying to get a static I.P. address so that my own clicks on my Web
>>>> site are excluded from my Web site hits.
>>>> 
>>>> Or should I use the program called "I.P. Notification" instead?
>>> 
>>> While you certainly do have control over the IP addresses within your
>>> local area network (LAN), you do not have control over the IP address of
>>> your modem or router, since that is assigned by your internet service
>>> provider. If you have typical home internet service through a cable,
>>> DSL, or fiber connection, your IP address will be dynamic (not static)
>>> unless you pay extra for a static IP address.
>>> 
>>> Can you tell us more about why you want to exclude your IP address?
>>> Also, what do you mean by "web site hits"? Do you mean the Apache log
>>> files, or perhaps hit counters on certain web pages, or what?
>> 
>> I want to exclude my own clicks on my Web site pages from my Google
>> Analytics Web site statistics for my Web site, so don't get an
>> artificically inflated number of clcks shown.
> 
> If you get so little traffic that your own clicks are changing analytics
> significantly, you've got *very* low traffic.

I have many clicks on my Web site -- about 140,000 per year, but I 
click a few thousand times annually on my site, so that can 
significantly skew the statistics.  (My Web site is in the top seven 
million on the planet, in terms of the number of page clicks.)

>> I've been using I.P. Notification to block my own I.P. address's clicks
>> from being counted, but recently I noticed that the email notification
>> I had set up in that program isn't working anymore.  The program is
>> supposed to email me when my exteranl I.P. address changes, to nofitify
>> me that I must update my I.P. address filtered in Google Analytics.
> 
> If this really matters to you, using Google Analytics filters to filter
> out your IP address seems to be the recommended way to go:
> 
> <https://support.google.com/analytics/answer/1034840?hl=en>
> 
> So it appears you are already doing the right thing.
> 
> Not sure what to tell you about this "IP Notification" program.

Thanks, Jolly.

I.P. Notification is available at the Itunes store:

https://itunes.apple.com/ca/app/ip-notification/id428377040?mt=12

It's important to use such a program because I wouldn't know without it 
if my external I.P. address has changed.

Tom Evans

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#68329

FromDoc O'Leary <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com>
Date2015-01-13 03:28 +0000
Message-ID<m923cj$vkl$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#68326
For your reference, records indicate that 
Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> wrote:

> It's important to use such a program because I wouldn't know without it 
> if my external I.P. address has changed.

Nonsense.  There are any number of ways to find out your externally
routed IP, including using your own web server itself, which is the main
target of interest.  Just have your computer regularly visit a particular
URL on the site (e.g., /exclude/home_mac).  It can even 404 if you don’t
mind that, be behind a NAT or proxy or who knows what.  Then your own
server will have a record of your “real” IP as said server sees it.  A
far better solution; no need to send me or anyone else five bucks.

-- 
"Also . . . I can kill you with my brain."
River Tam, Trash, Firefly

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#68345

FromTom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca>
Date2015-01-13 08:06 -0800
Message-ID<2015011308064187830-tomevans9890@yahoo.ca>
In reply to#68329
On 2015-01-13 03:28:19 +0000, Doc O'Leary said:

> For your reference, records indicate that
> Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> 
>> It's important to use such a program because I wouldn't know without it
>> if my external I.P. address has changed.
> 
> Nonsense.  There are any number of ways to find out your externally
> routed IP, including using your own web server itself, which is the main
> target of interest.  Just have your computer regularly visit a particular
> URL on the site (e.g., /exclude/home_mac).  It can even 404 if you don’t
> mind that, be behind a NAT or proxy or who knows what.  Then your own
> server will have a record of your “real” IP as said server sees it.  A
> far better solution; no need to send me or anyone else five bucks.

Thanks, Don.

But I don't understand your proposed solutions, because your proposed 
solutions are written like a computer gerk would write them.

And the problem isn't finding out what my external I.P. address is; 
it's the need to be notified to the address changing, so I can change 
my excluded I.P. address filter in Google Analytics.

Tom Evans.

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#68351

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-01-13 16:39 +0000
Message-ID<chl02bFkuqkU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#68345
On 2015-01-13, Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> On 2015-01-13 03:28:19 +0000, Doc O'Leary said:
>
>> For your reference, records indicate that
>> Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>> 
>>> It's important to use such a program because I wouldn't know without it
>>> if my external I.P. address has changed.
>> 
>> Nonsense.  There are any number of ways to find out your externally
>> routed IP, including using your own web server itself, which is the main
>> target of interest.  Just have your computer regularly visit a particular
>> URL on the site (e.g., /exclude/home_mac).  It can even 404 if you don’t
>> mind that, be behind a NAT or proxy or who knows what.  Then your own
>> server will have a record of your “real” IP as said server sees it.  A
>> far better solution; no need to send me or anyone else five bucks.
>
> Thanks, Don.
>
> But I don't understand your proposed solutions, because your proposed 
> solutions are written like a computer gerk would write them.

If it were me, I'd have written a script to do it. I'm aware that's not
useful to those who aren't familiar with such things, which is why I
didn't bother suggesting an alternative solution.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#68350

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-01-13 16:37 +0000
Message-ID<chkvucFkuqkU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#68329
On 2015-01-13, Doc O'Leary <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> wrote:
> For your reference, records indicate that 
> Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
>> It's important to use such a program because I wouldn't know without it 
>> if my external I.P. address has changed.
>
> Nonsense.  There are any number of ways to find out your externally
> routed IP, including using your own web server itself, which is the main
> target of interest.  Just have your computer regularly visit a particular
> URL on the site (e.g., /exclude/home_mac).  It can even 404 if you don’t
> mind that, be behind a NAT or proxy or who knows what.  Then your own
> server will have a record of your “real” IP as said server sees it.  A
> far better solution; no need to send me or anyone else five bucks.

Yep. There are many ways to skin that cat.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#68207

FromDoc O'Leary <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com>
Date2015-01-10 15:25 +0000
Message-ID<m8rg9j$n4o$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#68186
For your reference, records indicate that 
Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> wrote:

> Are these accurate instructions for setting a static I.P. address?:
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3s-We2YdQc
> 
> I'm trying to get a static I.P. address so that my own clicks on my Web 
> site are excluded from my Web site hits.
> 
> Or should I use the program called "I.P. Notification" instead?

There are so many things that *could* be in play that your questions
don’t make much sense.  Talk to your ISP if you need to understand
exactly how your network access is actually configured.  

-- 
"Also . . . I can kill you with my brain."
River Tam, Trash, Firefly

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#68232

FromWarren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com>
Date2015-01-11 08:33 -0500
Message-ID<54b27bbb$0$11360$b1db1813$e2fc9064@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#68207
In article <m8rg9j$n4o$1@dont-email.me>,
 Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> wrote:

> For your reference, records indicate that 
> Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> 
> > Are these accurate instructions for setting a static I.P. address?:
> > 
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3s-We2YdQc
> > 
> > I'm trying to get a static I.P. address so that my own clicks on my Web 
> > site are excluded from my Web site hits.
> > 
> > Or should I use the program called "I.P. Notification" instead?
> 
> There are so many things that *could* be in play that your questions
> don’t make much sense.  Talk to your ISP if you need to understand
> exactly how your network access is actually configured.

Yeah. Basically, an Internet-facing "static ip" has to be assigned by 
the ISP.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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