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  Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-03-21 18:23 -0400
    Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-03-22 10:19 +1100
    Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2014-03-22 00:45 +0100
      Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-21 23:55 +0000
      Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-03-21 20:04 -0400
        Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-03-21 20:53 -0400
          Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-03-21 21:19 -0400
            Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-22 01:35 +0000
            Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-03-22 07:58 -0400
          Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-22 01:22 +0000
            Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2014-03-22 19:29 +0000
              Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-03-23 10:38 -0400
                Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-03-23 08:12 -0700
                  Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-23 15:19 +0000
                    Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-03-23 08:46 -0700
                Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-23 15:16 +0000
                  Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-03-23 21:23 +0000
                    Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-03-23 23:00 -0400
                      Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-24 22:58 +0000
                    Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-24 22:52 +0000
                Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-03-23 21:21 +0000
                Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2014-03-24 19:09 -0700
                  Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-25 13:11 +0000
                    Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-03-31 15:58 -0400
                      Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-04-01 13:01 +0000
                        Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2014-04-02 18:34 -0700
                  Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 10:29 -0400
                    Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-03-25 13:52 -0400
                      Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-03-25 14:00 -0400
                        Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-03-25 14:53 -0400
                        Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-03-26 08:14 +1200
                          Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-03-25 19:01 -0400
                            Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-03-26 08:22 -0400
                              Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-03-26 09:13 -0400
                                Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-03-26 09:36 -0400
                                Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2014-03-26 16:02 -0700
                              Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> - 2014-03-27 04:58 -0500
                                Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-03-27 08:52 -0400
                                  Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-03-28 08:00 +1100
                                    Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-03-27 13:12 -0800
                                      Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-28 06:10 +0000
                                        Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-03-28 16:51 -0400
                                        Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2014-03-30 17:58 -0400
                                  Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-03-27 17:28 -0400
                                  Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-03-27 17:48 -0400
                                    Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-03-27 20:01 -0400
                                      Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-03-27 20:14 -0400
                                      Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away John White <jccw@comcast.net> - 2014-03-27 23:34 -0400
                                        Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-03-27 21:15 -0700
                                          Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-03-28 16:49 -0400
                                Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-03-28 08:51 +1200
                                Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-03-31 15:58 -0400
                                  Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> - 2014-03-31 21:53 -0500
                                    Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-04-01 16:15 +1200
                                    Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-03-31 23:16 -0400
                                      Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> - 2014-03-31 22:36 -0500
                                        Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-04-01 18:25 +1200
                                          Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2014-04-02 18:30 -0700
                    Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-03-31 15:58 -0400
      Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-03-22 13:43 +1200
    Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-03-22 10:51 +1100
      Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-03-21 16:54 -0700
        Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-03-21 20:07 -0400
          Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Mandy Liefbowitz <mandyliefbowitz@the.port.side> - 2014-03-22 00:39 +0000
            Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-03-21 21:22 -0400
              Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-03-22 14:18 +0000
          Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2014-03-22 02:44 +0100
    Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-03-21 21:35 -0700
    Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2014-03-22 16:53 -0700
      Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-03-22 20:54 -0700
      Re: Free PowerMac If You Can Carry It Away Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-23 14:34 +0000

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#58182

In message <c138i3ibwm.fsf@ethel.the.log> 
  Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:
> dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> writes:

>> In article <53341f00$0$32752$c3e8da3$dbd57e7@news.astraweb.com>,
>>  Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> > Ontario moves in a sluggish manner. You can't even buy beer in the 
>> > grocery stores here, you have to go to the "Beer Store" which is owned 
>> > believe-it-or-don't by some fucking eurotrash consortium
>> 
>> Yeah, well, ... they make (or at least did make) the best beer in the 
>> world over in Europe.

> As may be, but Ontario's "Beer Store" is owned by Molson/Coors and
> Anhueser-Busch.

> These are both huge companies.  It is possible that one or both of
> them accidentally make some good beer, though I doubt either makes the
> best beer in the world.

> (Michelob Pumpkin Spice Ale, anyone?  Bud Light Lime? Coors Light Iced
> T?  yum.)

I hate to admit it, but Bud Lite Lime is actually very good. It doesn't
taste like beer, but it tastes really good.

I refuse to buy it on general principle, or anything made by Coors,
though I do take every opportunity to stop along the banks of Clear
Creek and pee in it.

-- 
Disorder is merely the order you were not looking for." Henri Bergson

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#58193

On 2014.03.28, 02:10 , Lewis wrote:

> I refuse to buy it on general principle, or anything made by Coors,
> though I do take every opportunity to stop along the banks of Clear
> Creek and pee in it.

Coors is like making love in canoe.

-- 
    ... it may be that "in the cloud" really isn't the best term
    for the services these companies offer.  What they really
    want is to have us "on the leash."
                   -David Pogue, Scientific American, 2014.02

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#58237

In article <slrnlja4j2.8b8.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> I refuse to buy it on general principle, or anything made by Coors,
> though I do take every opportunity to stop along the banks of Clear
> Creek and pee in it.

Isn't that a lot of trouble just to improve the taste of Coors?

-- 
Never attribute to stupidity that which can be explained by greed. Me.

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#58169

On 2014.03.27, 08:52 , Warren Oates wrote:
> In article <super70s-01B2F4.04584127032014@bonxibon.datemas.de>,
> super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
>
>> In article <5332c66e$0$32701$c3e8da3$dbd57e7@news.astraweb.com>,
>>  Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:

>> Anyway, > our yearly registration stickers go on the back plate, so we
>> can't > really do that (well, I could, I suppose, as long as I didn't
>> do it more > than once't a year, but I guess I'm not that anal).
>>
>> Front plates are kind of a dumb idea really both practically and
>> economically, my state hasn't required them for several decades.
>
> Ontario moves in a sluggish manner.

Yeah.  Annual stickers.  Really?

Another smart time saver in Quebec is that the photo for your driver's 
license and for your prov. medical ins. is taken at the SAAQ (the 
"DMV").  So one visit there every 4 years and they re-issue new cards 
good for 4 years for both.  (Of course you also have to send in about 
$80 per year for the driver's license - the large part of that being 
no-fault insurance ...)

(This sounds like merely efficient administration but a special law had 
to be passed to allow the two departments to communicate even the most 
superficial personal data).

-- 
   Those who have reduced our privacy, whether they are state
   or commercial actors, prefer that we do not reduce theirs.
                  - Jaron Lanier, Scientific American, 2013.11.

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#58173

Warren Oates:
> Ontario moves in a sluggish manner. You can't even buy beer in the 
> grocery stores here, you have to go to the "Beer Store" which is owned 
> believe-it-or-don't by some fucking eurotrash consortium in Belgium or 
> some such godfersaken eurotrash country. They also own the toll freeway 
> across northern Toronto.

It's the way of the world. The Washington, DC subway system, "The
Metro," is operated by a Canadian company. United Statesians take this
to be further evidence that we no longer know how to run a railroad.

As for alcohol, our 50 states and various territories all have their
own laws. In Pennsylvania, for example, one may only buy wine and
spirits from the "State Store," which is state-owned. Beer may only be
purchased from a "beer distributor." In Maryland, all alcoholic
beverages are sold only in liquor stores. In Iowa, where 99.999% of the
population are staid, upright Methodists*, one may buy distilled
spirits at petrol stations. I'm not entirely certain that that is a
good thing.

*Hyperbole.

-- 
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm

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#58175

In article <270320141748222023%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net> 
wrote:

> Warren Oates:
> > Ontario moves in a sluggish manner. You can't even buy beer in the 
> > grocery stores here, you have to go to the "Beer Store" which is owned 
> > believe-it-or-don't by some fucking eurotrash consortium in Belgium or 
> > some such godfersaken eurotrash country. They also own the toll freeway 
> > across northern Toronto.
> 
> It's the way of the world. The Washington, DC subway system, "The
> Metro," is operated by a Canadian company. United Statesians take this
> to be further evidence that we no longer know how to run a railroad.
> 
> As for alcohol, our 50 states and various territories all have their
> own laws. In Pennsylvania, for example, one may only buy wine and
> spirits from the "State Store," which is state-owned. Beer may only be
> purchased from a "beer distributor." In Maryland, all alcoholic
> beverages are sold only in liquor stores. In Iowa, where 99.999% of the
> population are staid, upright Methodists*, one may buy distilled
> spirits at petrol stations. I'm not entirely certain that that is a
> good thing.
> 
> *Hyperbole.

The difference between the "state stores" and the equivalent in Canada 
is that in Canada, the government controls the pricing. I shopped at 
state stores in Maine and Vermont, and the while the states run the 
stores, the prices are set and controlled by the distillers. I used to 
get a pretty good nouveau beaujolais at the gas station in Richford Vt.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#58176

On 2014.03.27, 20:01 , Warren Oates wrote:
> In article <270320141748222023%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net> wrote:
>
>> Warren Oates:
>> > Ontario moves in a sluggish manner. You can't even buy beer in the >
>> grocery stores here, you have to go to the "Beer Store" which is owned
>> > believe-it-or-don't by some fucking eurotrash consortium in Belgium
>> or > some such godfersaken eurotrash country. They also own the toll
>> freeway > across northern Toronto.
>>
>> It's the way of the world. The Washington, DC subway system, "The
>> Metro," is operated by a Canadian company. United Statesians take this
>> to be further evidence that we no longer know how to run a railroad.
>>
>> As for alcohol, our 50 states and various territories all have their
>> own laws. In Pennsylvania, for example, one may only buy wine and
>> spirits from the "State Store," which is state-owned. Beer may only be
>> purchased from a "beer distributor." In Maryland, all alcoholic
>> beverages are sold only in liquor stores.

I've bought over the counter beer in MD at a store adjoining a bar. 
Separate section with its own employee, fridges and cash register. 
Perhaps you're allowed to carry unopened bottles from bars there and 
that's how they manage it.

> The difference between the "state stores" and the equivalent in Canada
> is that in Canada, the government controls the pricing.

Beer in Quebec is more competitive than most provinces because it's sold 
in convenience and grocery stores.  So it's often on sale at just above 
the "legal minimum".  I've seen Sleeman small cases (12) as low as 
$11.71 (and bought a pile when I saw it).  Usually I can buy it for 
$12.99 - $13.99, so I'll pick up 4 cases when it's in that range.

Wine is more expensive in Quebec because the SAQ executives receive 
their bonus based on sales figures.  So they have no incentive to pass 
on savings from good deals they may make in overseas markets.  We drive 
to Hawkesbury and buy 4 or 5 cases of wine ever once in a while.  (It's 
technically illegal to do so...)

750 ml of fricken Bowmore 12 is now at $58.00 in Quebec.


-- 
   Those who have reduced our privacy, whether they are state
   or commercial actors, prefer that we do not reduce theirs.
                  - Jaron Lanier, Scientific American, 2013.11.

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#58178

In article <5334bbf0$0$49632$c3e8da3$fdf4f6af@news.astraweb.com>,
 Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> The difference between the "state stores" and the equivalent in Canada 
> is that in Canada, the government controls the pricing. I shopped at 
> state stores in Maine and Vermont, and the while the states run the 
> stores, the prices are set and controlled by the distillers. I used to 
> get a pretty good nouveau beaujolais at the gas station in Richford Vt.

In Virginia, distilled spirits are sold only in state stores, which 
control the prices (and everything else).

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#58180

In article <jccw-DE8F8D.23340127032014@mx05.eternal-september.org>,
John White <jccw@comcast.net> wrote:

> In article <5334bbf0$0$49632$c3e8da3$fdf4f6af@news.astraweb.com>,
>  Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > The difference between the "state stores" and the equivalent in Canada 
> > is that in Canada, the government controls the pricing. I shopped at 
> > state stores in Maine and Vermont, and the while the states run the 
> > stores, the prices are set and controlled by the distillers. I used to 
> > get a pretty good nouveau beaujolais at the gas station in Richford Vt.
> 
> In Virginia, distilled spirits are sold only in state stores, which 
> control the prices (and everything else).

When I was in my mid 20s, I bought some booze at a state ABC store in
Arlington; they didn't ask for ID.  Then I went next door to a drug
store and bought a six-pack of beer.  The teenage cashier asked for ID.

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#58192

On 2014.03.28, 00:15 , Michelle Steiner wrote:

> When I was in my mid 20s, I bought some booze at a state ABC store in
> Arlington; they didn't ask for ID.  Then I went next door to a drug
> store and bought a six-pack of beer.  The teenage cashier asked for ID.

I was in some state along the US eastern seaboard where when I bought 
beer (in a grocery store) the teenage cashier had to get someone over 21 
to pass the beer over the scanner.

-- 
   Privacy has become an essential personal chore that most
   people are not trained to perform.
                  - Jaron Lanier, Scientific American, 2013.11.

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#58166

In article <super70s-01B2F4.04584127032014@bonxibon.datemas.de>,
super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
> In article <5332c66e$0$32701$c3e8da3$dbd57e7@news.astraweb.com>,
>  Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In article <S4-dnQQI3dF_l6_OnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@giganews.com>,
> >  Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> > > On 2014.03.25, 16:14 , Your Name wrote:
> > > 
> > > > flat / cross head screwdriver). It's also a bit of a pain for people
> > > > like me who sawp the front and back plates every so often to even out
> > > > the road wear that occurs,
> > > 
> > > Do I really understand that you change the plates fore and aft because 
> > > the front plate begins showing wear?
> > 
> > I was wondering about that. Maybe he lives in the Sahara desert. Anyway, 
> > our yearly registration stickers go on the back plate, so we can't 
> > really do that (well, I could, I suppose, as long as I didn't do it more 
> > than once't a year, but I guess I'm not that anal).
> 
> Front plates are kind of a dumb idea really both practically and 
> economically, my state hasn't required them for several decades.

So all the criminals just drive in reverse gear so they can't be
identified.  ;-)

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#58249

In article <super70s-01B2F4.04584127032014@bonxibon.datemas.de>,
super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:

> Front plates are kind of a dumb idea really both practically and 
> economically, my state hasn't required them for several decades.

front plates are required because of the proliferation of photo radar
and red light cameras.

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#58259

On 2014-03-31 19:58:12 +0000, nospam said:

> In article <super70s-01B2F4.04584127032014@bonxibon.datemas.de>,
> super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> Front plates are kind of a dumb idea really both practically and
>> economically, my state hasn't required them for several decades.
> 
> front plates are required because of the proliferation of photo radar
> and red light cameras.

If front plates are required why don't the car manufacturers provide a 
proper mounting place, one which is set back from the front of the 
front bumper so that the plate doesn't act as a scratching item if the 
front bumper toudhes another parked car.

-- 
James Leo Ryan - Austin, Texas

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#58260

In article <bpuo22Fka8gU1@mid.individual.net>, TaliesinSoft
<taliesinsoft@me.com> wrote:
> On 2014-03-31 19:58:12 +0000, nospam said:
> > 
> > In article <super70s-01B2F4.04584127032014@bonxibon.datemas.de>,
> > super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
> > 
> >> Front plates are kind of a dumb idea really both practically and
> >> economically, my state hasn't required them for several decades.
> > 
> > front plates are required because of the proliferation of photo radar
> > and red light cameras.
> 
> If front plates are required why don't the car manufacturers provide a 
> proper mounting place, one which is set back from the front of the 
> front bumper 

Few cars have mounting points for roof-racks, extra front lights, etc.,
but that doesn't stop some people adding these things.

Some cars actually do have a place for a front plate, although it has
become rare these days. Even if there's no actual inset moulded into
the bumper, there will be mounting points underneath the bumper because
many countries do require front plates on cars / buses / vans / trucks.


In some places it is legal to have a sticker / decal version on the
front instead of an actual plate.




> so that the plate doesn't act as a scratching item if the 
> front bumper toudhes another parked car.

You shouldn't be touching another parked car with any part of your car
anyway.

I've got plastic surrounds on my car's licence plates. You can buy them
from "any good car parts store", but mine were free from the dealer /
workshop (with their small logo on them of course). The first pair
broke after years in the weather, so they gave me a new pair.

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#58261

In article <bpuo22Fka8gU1@mid.individual.net>, TaliesinSoft
<taliesinsoft@me.com> wrote:

> >> Front plates are kind of a dumb idea really both practically and
> >> economically, my state hasn't required them for several decades.
> > 
> > front plates are required because of the proliferation of photo radar
> > and red light cameras.
> 
> If front plates are required why don't the car manufacturers provide a 
> proper mounting place, one which is set back from the front of the 
> front bumper so that the plate doesn't act as a scratching item if the 
> front bumper toudhes another parked car.

the bigger question is why are the bumpers making contact at all. 

learn to not hit things.

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#58265

[in response to the following regarding the placement of front license 
plates and the bumping of bumpers when parking]

> the bigger question is why are the bumpers making contact at all.
> 
> learn to not hit things.

I can remember when the bumpers on cars were metal and were capable of 
taking a reasonable bump without there being a problem. It often 
happened when you were backing into a small parking spot that you 
tapped your rear bumper with the front bumper of the car behind you. 
And when this happened there was no damage to either car. I have seen 
quite a few bumpers which have been damaged from having encountered a 
slight bump from a parking car. I think that this is an example of 
where style takes precedence over function!


-- 
James Leo Ryan - Austin, Texas

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#58268

In article <bpuqikFkp4hU1@mid.individual.net>, TaliesinSoft
<taliesinsoft@me.com> wrote:
> [in response to the following regarding the placement of front license 
> plates and the bumping of bumpers when parking]
> 
> > the bigger question is why are the bumpers making contact at all.
> > 
> > learn to not hit things.
> 
> I can remember when the bumpers on cars were metal and were capable of 
> taking a reasonable bump without there being a problem. It often 
> happened when you were backing into a small parking spot that you 
> tapped your rear bumper with the front bumper of the car behind you. 
> And when this happened there was no damage to either car. I have seen 
> quite a few bumpers which have been damaged from having encountered a 
> slight bump from a parking car. I think that this is an example of 
> where style takes precedence over function!

Bumpers in the good old days were simply there as protection stop your
car's bodywork from damage.

Bumpers these days are designed to do things like partially and slowly
collapse on impact to absorb some of the momentum, protect pedestrians,
etc. Even a light impact can damage the underlying "foam" even when the
plastic outer casing still looks fine.

Like most things these days, cars are designed as throw away items when
"broken", instead of designed to actually last decades and be easily
repairable like they used to.  :-(

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#58296

In article <010420141825112137%YourName@YourISP.com>,
 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> Bumpers these days are designed to do things like partially and slowly
> collapse on impact to absorb some of the momentum, protect pedestrians,
> etc. Even a light impact can damage the underlying "foam" even when the
> plastic outer casing still looks fine.

As a nit-picker, I know (algebraic) momentum is conserved. What you want 
is a reduction of collision forces (acceleration) by making collisions 
take longer to complete. The absorption is that of energy. I is also 
conserved but converted into heat so that riders do not get banged up.

-- 

Sam

Conservatives are against Darwinism but for natural selection.
Liberals are for Darwinism but totally against any selection.

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#58248

In article <533192b3$0$9659$c3e8da3$e408f015@news.astraweb.com>, Warren
Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:

> > I also remember Click an Clacks suggesting leaving dad cars unlocked in 
> > a bad section of town.
> 
> Cars are registered via the VIN. If it gets used in a bank robbery, say, 
> the cops will come to _your_ door. Or in this case, your dad's door.

and they'll quickly figure out that you weren't involved.

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#58047

In article <lgiiu9$c7g$1@solani.org>, ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid>
wrote:
> Davoud wrote:
> > It breaks my heart to take this Dual 2GHz G5 to the recycle bin, but
> > that's what I'm going to do on Monday, 24 March, if no one picks it up
> > in Gambrills, Maryland, about 12 miles west of Annapolis, by that date.
> 
> Why not give it to some second-hand aid store instead?
> 
> ...Sadly it's such a long walk from Denmark to Maryland - else I'd 
> gladly take it.:-)

There would be quite a few people who would happily *buy* it from all
the usual second-hand places (eBay, Craigslist, etc.). At worst it
could be sold as parts.

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