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  System Upgrade from 10.8 to 10.8.4 paulfuchs@spamain'tkosher.oink - 2014-03-08 17:45 -0600
    Re: System Upgrade from 10.8 to 10.8.4 billy@MIX.COM - 2014-03-09 00:14 +0000
      Re: System Upgrade from 10.8 to 10.8.4 paulfuchs@spamain'tkosher.oink - 2014-03-08 18:35 -0600
        Re: System Upgrade from 10.8 to 10.8.4 billy@MIX.COM - 2014-03-09 00:55 +0000
          Re: System Upgrade from 10.8 to 10.8.4 John Albert <j.albert@snet.net> - 2014-03-09 16:20 -0400
          Re: System Upgrade from 10.8 to 10.8.4 paulfuchs@spamain'tkosher.oink - 2014-03-09 19:21 -0600
        Re: System Upgrade from 10.8 to 10.8.4 Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-03-09 11:45 -0400
    Re: System Upgrade from 10.8 to 10.8.4 me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-03-09 00:55 +0000
    Re: System Upgrade from 10.8 to 10.8.4 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-09 01:18 +0000
      Re: System Upgrade from 10.8 to 10.8.4 paulfuchs@spamain'tkosher.oink - 2014-03-09 13:20 -0600
        Re: System Upgrade from 10.8 to 10.8.4 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-09 20:44 +0000
        Re: System Upgrade from 10.8 to 10.8.4 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-09 23:10 +0000
          Re: System Upgrade from 10.8 to 10.8.4 dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-03-10 14:45 +1300
            Re: System Upgrade from 10.8 to 10.8.4 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-10 15:31 +0000
    Re: System Upgrade from 10.8 to 10.8.4 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-09 07:25 +0000
      Re: System Upgrade from 10.8 to 10.8.4 George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-03-09 10:42 -0500
      Re: System Upgrade from 10.8 to 10.8.4 me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-03-09 15:58 +0000
        Re: System Upgrade from 10.8 to 10.8.4 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-09 23:05 +0000
          Re: System Upgrade from 10.8 to 10.8.4 me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-03-10 02:12 +0000

#57750 — System Upgrade from 10.8 to 10.8.4

I bought a MacBook Pro about a year and a half ago.  It came with Lion
loaded on the drive, but I was entitled to a free upgrade to Mountain
Lion.  I put in for the free upgrade but, for a variety of reasons, held
off installing it.  Today I decided to do so.  So my About this Mac now
reads OSX 10.8.  I then wanted to upgrade to the latest reasonably
unbuggy version.  After a little research I figure that this may well be
10.8.4.  I definitely do not want to go to Maverick, OSX 9, free or
otherwise.  This old dog doesn't wish to learn a lot of new tricks.  But
I can't find a link anywhere for what use to be considered a free
upgrade version.  Three questions:

1)  What the hell is going on with Apple?  A few years ago it would have
been inconceivable that I would have to ask this group a question like
this.  It seems that Apple has transformed itself into an involuntary
suppository injector.

2)  Is this link/upgrade available?

3)  Any feedback on my choice of 10.8.4?

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#57753

paulfuchs@spamain'tkosher.oink asks:

> 2)  Is this link/upgrade available?

http://support.apple.com/downloads/#Mountain%20Lion

> 3)  Any feedback on my choice of 10.8.4?

10.8.5 seems to be the last release.  I'd use that.

Billy Y..
-- 
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#57754

Thanks Billy,

I followed your link, but when I clicked to browse on Mac OSX, all the
links I got were iOS.  If you think this is valid, perhaps you could
give me a direct link.


<billy@MIX.COM> wrote:

> paulfuchs@spamain'tkosher.oink asks:
> 
> > 2)  Is this link/upgrade available?
> 
> http://support.apple.com/downloads/#Mountain%20Lion
> 
> > 3)  Any feedback on my choice of 10.8.4?
> 
> 10.8.5 seems to be the last release.  I'd use that.
> 
> Billy Y..

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#57755

paulfuchs@spamain'tkosher.oink writes:

> Thanks Billy,
> 
> I followed your link, but when I clicked to browse on Mac OSX, all the
> links I got were iOS.  If you think this is valid, perhaps you could
> give me a direct link.

This is working for me -

http://support.apple.com/downloads/#Mountain%20Lion

I have a developer's account - maybe there's some difference...
Try http://support.apple.com/downloads then click on the "Browse
by Product" button in the upper right corner of the page, then
enter Mountain Lion in the search box of the page that appears
after doing that.

Or, give these a try -

OS X Mountain Lion Update v10.8.4 (Combo)
http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1659

OS X Mountain Lion Update v10.8.5 (Combo)
http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1676

The iMac OS X v10.8.5 Supplemental Update 1.0 is recommended
for iMacs (Late 2013) using NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M graphics
and running OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.5.

iMac 10.8.5 Supplemental Update 1.0
http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1700

There are also a bunch of printer drivers.  If you have a
printer problem, post who made it and I will get you a link
to the appropiate update.

Then there are several other specific application and hardware
upates, but, at least for me, the combo update included those.

Billy Y..
-- 
        sub     #'9+1   ,r0             ; convert ascii byte
	add     #9.+1   ,r0             ; to an integer
	bcc     20$                     ; not a number

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#57794

On 3/8/14 7:55 PM, billy@MIX.COM wrote:
> OS X Mountain Lion Update v10.8.5 (Combo)
> http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1676
>
> The iMac OS X v10.8.5 Supplemental Update 1.0 is recommended
> for iMacs (Late 2013) using NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M graphics
> and running OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.5.
>
> iMac 10.8.5 Supplemental Update 1.0
> http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1700

There were reports after the 10.8.5 "supplemental update" of 
problems.

In view of that, I've stayed with the "non supplemental" 
10.8.5 "Combo" update, and everything runs fine.

I've fooled with Mavericks on an external drive, don't see 
any reason to "go there" at the present time...

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#57820

<billy@MIX.COM> wrote:

> paulfuchs@spamain'tkosher.oink writes:
> 
> > Thanks Billy,
> > 
> > I followed your link, but when I clicked to browse on Mac OSX, all the
> > links I got were iOS.  If you think this is valid, perhaps you could
> > give me a direct link.
> 
> This is working for me -
> 
> http://support.apple.com/downloads/#Mountain%20Lion
> 
> I have a developer's account - maybe there's some difference...
> Try http://support.apple.com/downloads then click on the "Browse
> by Product" button in the upper right corner of the page, then
> enter Mountain Lion in the search box of the page that appears
> after doing that.
> 
> Or, give these a try -
> 
> OS X Mountain Lion Update v10.8.4 (Combo)
> http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1659
> 
> OS X Mountain Lion Update v10.8.5 (Combo)
> http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1676
> 
> The iMac OS X v10.8.5 Supplemental Update 1.0 is recommended
> for iMacs (Late 2013) using NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M graphics
> and running OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.5.
> 
> iMac 10.8.5 Supplemental Update 1.0
> http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1700
> 
> There are also a bunch of printer drivers.  If you have a
> printer problem, post who made it and I will get you a link
> to the appropiate update.
> 
> Then there are several other specific application and hardware
> upates, but, at least for me, the combo update included those.
> 
> Billy Y..

Thanks Billy,

Used your link:

OS X Mountain Lion Update v10.8.5 (Combo)
> http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1676

and it downloaded installed 10.8.5 without a hitch.  Just what I wanted.
Thanks again.

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#57777

On 2014.03.08, 19:35 , paulfuchs@spamain'tkosher.oink wrote:
> Thanks Billy,
>
> I followed your link, but when I clicked to browse on Mac OSX, all the
> links I got were iOS.  If you think this is valid, perhaps you could
> give me a direct link.


The Apple download/support site is Chrome/Firefox unfriendly, use Safari 
to get a full page of ML related Downloads.

-- 
    ... it may be that "in the cloud" really isn't the best term
    for the services these companies offer.  What they really
    want is to have us "on the leash."
                   -David Pogue, Scientific American, 2014.02

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#57756

paulfuchs@spamain'tkosher.oink wrote:
> off installing it.  Today I decided to do so.  So my About this Mac now
> reads OSX 10.8.  I then wanted to upgrade to the latest reasonably
> unbuggy version.   After a little research I figure that this may well 
> be 10.8.4.

Definitely not. If you stop there you will be missing several critical 
security updates and will not get any more. Run Software Update in your 
Apple menu. It will get you up to 10.8.5.

> I definitely do not want to go to Maverick, OSX 9, free or
> otherwise.  This old dog doesn't wish to learn a lot of new tricks.

There really isn't much new to learn in 10.9 that you won't be learning 
in 10.8.

-- 
K.

Lang may your lum reek.

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#57757

On 2014-03-08, paulfuchs@spamain'tkosher.oink <paulfuchs@spamain'tkosher.oink> wrote:
> I bought a MacBook Pro about a year and a half ago.  It came with Lion
> loaded on the drive, but I was entitled to a free upgrade to Mountain
> Lion.  I put in for the free upgrade but, for a variety of reasons, held
> off installing it.  Today I decided to do so.  So my About this Mac now
> reads OSX 10.8.  I then wanted to upgrade to the latest reasonably
> unbuggy version.  After a little research I figure that this may well be
> 10.8.4.  I definitely do not want to go to Maverick, OSX 9, free or
> otherwise.  This old dog doesn't wish to learn a lot of new tricks.  But
> I can't find a link anywhere for what use to be considered a free
> upgrade version.  Three questions:
>
> 1)  What the hell is going on with Apple?  A few years ago it would have
> been inconceivable that I would have to ask this group a question like
> this.  It seems that Apple has transformed itself into an involuntary
> suppository injector.

I'm confused as to why you are having a hard time finding this, and have
to wonder what exactly you've tried so far in your search. 

It almost sounds as if you do not want to use Apple's built-in software
update facility (Apple menu > Software Update). Are you averse to using
that for some reason?

Anyhow, a simple Google search shows a hit on support.apple.com named
"OS X Mountain Lion Update v10.8.4 - Apple - Support - Downloads".
Clicking that leads you here, where you can manually download and
install said update (and even some newer ones):

<http://support.apple.com/downloads/#osxmountainlion>

> 2)  Is this link/upgrade available?

See above.

> 3)  Any feedback on my choice of 10.8.4?

In general, I would encourage you to use the latest available release.

If you are willing to use 10.8, then you should strongly consider
upgrading to 10.9, which fixes a whole lot of issues that people
complained about when 10.8 was released. In a lot of ways, 10.9 is a big
round of fixes for issues introduces in 10.8.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#57791

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2014-03-08, paulfuchs@spamain'tkosher.oink
> <paulfuchs@spamain'tkosher.oink> wrote: > I bought a MacBook Pro about a
> year and a half ago.  It came with Lion > loaded on the drive, but I was
> entitled to a free upgrade to Mountain > Lion.  I put in for the free
> upgrade but, for a variety of reasons, held > off installing it.  Today I
> decided to do so.  So my About this Mac now > reads OSX 10.8.  I then
> wanted to upgrade to the latest reasonably > unbuggy version.  After a
> little research I figure that this may well be > 10.8.4.  I definitely do
> not want to go to Maverick, OSX 9, free or > otherwise.  This old dog
> doesn't wish to learn a lot of new tricks.  But > I can't find a link
> anywhere for what use to be considered a free > upgrade version.  Three
> questions: > > 1)  What the hell is going on with Apple?  A few years ago
> it would have > been inconceivable that I would have to ask this group a
> question like > this.  It seems that Apple has transformed itself into an
> involuntary > suppository injector.
> 
> I'm confused as to why you are having a hard time finding this, and have
> to wonder what exactly you've tried so far in your search.
> 
> It almost sounds as if you do not want to use Apple's built-in software
> update facility (Apple menu > Software Update). Are you averse to using
> that for some reason?
> 
> Anyhow, a simple Google search shows a hit on support.apple.com named "OS
> X Mountain Lion Update v10.8.4 - Apple - Support - Downloads". Clicking
> that leads you here, where you can manually download and install said
> update (and even some newer ones):
> 
> <http://support.apple.com/downloads/#osxmountainlion>
> 
> > 2)  Is this link/upgrade available?
> 
> See above.
> 
> > 3)  Any feedback on my choice of 10.8.4?
> 
> In general, I would encourage you to use the latest available release.
> 
> If you are willing to use 10.8, then you should strongly consider
> upgrading to 10.9, which fixes a whole lot of issues that people
> complained about when 10.8 was released. In a lot of ways, 10.9 is a big
> round of fixes for issues introduces in 10.8.

I am having a hard time for the following reasons:

 I didn't want to upgrade to OSX 9 for my own peronal reasons at this
point.  I can always do it at a later point.  I wanted to upgrade to the
latest version of OSX 8.x prior to the release of 9.  However, not
staying very current on Mac issues, I didn't know that OSX 9 was a free
upgrade, so I did go first to software update, which only gave me an
option of Mavericks, which of course is 9.  I did try to install it and
got an error message.  After a second 40 minute download of almost a GB,
the same thing happened.  I then started researching it a bit, to
discover that Mavericks is in fact OSX 9 and Apple's first  free upgrade
of a "new number" version.  Beware Greeks bearing gifts!

I then went into the Apple site but was unable to find an update to
either 8.4 or 8.5.  Also spent quite a bit of time with Google trying to
find a link.  At that point I contacted this group for help.

Billy's  original link only gave me iOS dates even though I definitely
highlighted Mac OS.  However, he followed up with some other links which
I will check out shortly.

Frankly, I love Snow Leopard and would have been delighted to stay with
it.  When my MacBook died and I bought a new MacBook Pro in August of
2012, I didn't realize at that time that Apple had pulled out Rosetta
from Lion.  If I had known I would have bought a refurb.  I lost almost
all of my third party apps that I was very comfortable with.  I am a
retiree living on SS, and upgrading all these apps to Intel is an
expense I can easiy do without, thank you.  And for me for the last four
years at least, I find every nominal upgrade is a de facto downgrade in
quality.  Moving mp3's in itunes to my iPod now crashes several times a
week.  Never had that problem until I "upgraded" iTunes a few months
ago.

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#57797

On 2014-03-09, paulfuchs@spamain'tkosher.oink <paulfuchs@spamain'tkosher.oink> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2014-03-08, paulfuchs@spamain'tkosher.oink
>> <paulfuchs@spamain'tkosher.oink> wrote: > I bought a MacBook Pro about a
>> year and a half ago.  It came with Lion > loaded on the drive, but I was
>> entitled to a free upgrade to Mountain > Lion.  I put in for the free
>> upgrade but, for a variety of reasons, held > off installing it.  Today I
>> decided to do so.  So my About this Mac now > reads OSX 10.8.  I then
>> wanted to upgrade to the latest reasonably > unbuggy version.  After a
>> little research I figure that this may well be > 10.8.4.  I definitely do
>> not want to go to Maverick, OSX 9, free or > otherwise.  This old dog
>> doesn't wish to learn a lot of new tricks.  But > I can't find a link
>> anywhere for what use to be considered a free > upgrade version.  Three
>> questions: > > 1)  What the hell is going on with Apple?  A few years ago
>> it would have > been inconceivable that I would have to ask this group a
>> question like > this.  It seems that Apple has transformed itself into an
>> involuntary > suppository injector.
>> 
>> I'm confused as to why you are having a hard time finding this, and have
>> to wonder what exactly you've tried so far in your search.
>> 
>> It almost sounds as if you do not want to use Apple's built-in software
>> update facility (Apple menu > Software Update). Are you averse to using
>> that for some reason?
>> 
>> Anyhow, a simple Google search shows a hit on support.apple.com named "OS
>> X Mountain Lion Update v10.8.4 - Apple - Support - Downloads". Clicking
>> that leads you here, where you can manually download and install said
>> update (and even some newer ones):
>> 
>> <http://support.apple.com/downloads/#osxmountainlion>
>> 
>> > 2)  Is this link/upgrade available?
>> 
>> See above.
>> 
>> > 3)  Any feedback on my choice of 10.8.4?
>> 
>> In general, I would encourage you to use the latest available release.
>> 
>> If you are willing to use 10.8, then you should strongly consider
>> upgrading to 10.9, which fixes a whole lot of issues that people
>> complained about when 10.8 was released. In a lot of ways, 10.9 is a big
>> round of fixes for issues introduces in 10.8.
>
> I am having a hard time for the following reasons:
>
>  I didn't want to upgrade to OSX 9 for my own peronal reasons at this
> point.  

Not sure what your personal reasons are, but excluding significant bug
fixes and improvements over some bad stuff introduced in 10.9, there is
very little difference in functionality between 10.8 and 10.9. If you
like 10.8, you will almost surely like 10.9 even more.

(Also, just a note: While I and others here will know what you mean, you
may want to be careful calling it "OSX 9", as it may confuse some people
into thinking you are perhaps talking about classic Mac OS 9, or perhaps
that you are simply confused yourself as to which version you are
talking about. The proper version number for Mac OS X Mountain
Lion is "10.9".)

> I can always do it at a later point.  I wanted to upgrade to the
> latest version of OSX 8.x prior to the release of 9.  However, not
> staying very current on Mac issues, I didn't know that OSX 9 was a free
> upgrade, so I did go first to software update, which only gave me an
> option of Mavericks, which of course is 9.

It's possible you were just confused. As you may have noticed, when you
choose Apple menu > Software Update, the App Store application is
launched. This is because Software Update is now combined with
the App Store, and is available in the "Updates" section. What should
happen when you choose Software Update from the Apple menu is the App
Store application should launch, and the Updates section should be
displayed. It then take a moment while the app checks with Apple's
servers to see which updates are available. Perhaps while that was
happening, you clicked into one of the other App Store sections and saw
the 10.9 banner offering 10.9 for free, and assumed that was the update
that was available? If you are running 10.8, and you look
at the Updates section of the App Store application, you should
eventually see all of the available updates for 10.8.

> I did try to install it and
> got an error message.  After a second 40 minute download of almost a GB,
> the same thing happened.  I then started researching it a bit, to
> discover that Mavericks is in fact OSX 9 and Apple's first free upgrade
> of a "new number" version.  Beware Greeks bearing gifts!

Like I said, 10.9 improves lots of bad things that were introduced in
10.8. It's a recommended upgrade.

> I then went into the Apple site but was unable to find an update to
> either 8.4 or 8.5.  Also spent quite a bit of time with Google trying to
> find a link.  At that point I contacted this group for help.
>
> Billy's  original link only gave me iOS dates even though I definitely
> highlighted Mac OS.  However, he followed up with some other links which
> I will check out shortly.

This I don't understand. A web search should bring you to the Apple
updates page for Mac OS X 10.8. When I go to this page, I see all
available updates for 10.8:

<http://support.apple.com/downloads/#osxmountainlion>

Here's a screen shot of what I see:

<http://jollyroger.kicks-ass.org/apple_mountainlion_updates.png>

> Frankly, I love Snow Leopard and would have been delighted to stay with
> it.  When my MacBook died and I bought a new MacBook Pro in August of
> 2012, I didn't realize at that time that Apple had pulled out Rosetta
> from Lion.  If I had known I would have bought a refurb.  I lost almost
> all of my third party apps that I was very comfortable with.  I am a
> retiree living on SS, and upgrading all these apps to Intel is an
> expense I can easiy do without, thank you.  And for me for the last four
> years at least, I find every nominal upgrade is a de facto downgrade in
> quality.  Moving mp3's in itunes to my iPod now crashes several times a
> week.  Never had that problem until I "upgraded" iTunes a few months
> ago.

Apple does need to spend some more quality time with Mac OS and get it
to a more stable state. It's a bit rough around the edges as of late.
But even so, it's not all bad. And I found that a lot of the third-party
apps I used to use back in 10.6 were fairly easily replaced with
alternative ones that are in many cases more powerful anyway.

There's no reason you can't stay with 10.6 indefinitely. The market for
older Macs is huge. So you can find any number of older models capable
of running 10.6 quite easily if that's what you want. Just keep in mind
the world doesn't stand still. 10.6 will become more and more obsolete
as time marches on.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#57805

In message <1li8s3n.ocrm8tmh5wjfN%paulfuchs@spamain'tkosher.oink> 
  paulfuchs@spamain'tkosher.oink <paulfuchs@spamain'tkosher.oink> wrote:
>  I didn't want to upgrade to OSX 9

Don't do that. The version number is 10.9. The same applies to the rest
of your post.

> did go first to software update, which only gave me an
> option of Mavericks,

No, Software update would most certainly *not* give you an option of
Mavericks on a machine running 10.8. You did it wrong.

-- 
Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons for you are crunchy and taste
good with ketchup

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#57825

Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> In message <1li8s3n.ocrm8tmh5wjfN%paulfuchs@spamain'tkosher.oink> 
>   paulfuchs@spamain'tkosher.oink <paulfuchs@spamain'tkosher.oink> wrote:
> >  I didn't want to upgrade to OSX 9
> 
> Don't do that. The version number is 10.9. The same applies to the rest
> of your post.
> 
> > did go first to software update, which only gave me an
> > option of Mavericks,
> 
> No, Software update would most certainly *not* give you an option of
> Mavericks on a machine running 10.8. You did it wrong.

For those running Mountain Lion (also Snow Leopard and Lion if the
computer is compatible), the Updates tab in App Store contains what I
would describe as a banner advertisement for Mavericks, with a "Free
upgrade" button. It is separate from the list of app updates, and from
the list of Software Updates (in Mountain Lion).

Choosing Software Update from the Apple menu on Mountain Lion invokes
App Store and shows the Updates tab, therefore I can understand someone
on Mountain Lion not paying enough attention and thinking Mavericks is a
regular software update.

-- 
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

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#57845

On 2014-03-10, David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
> Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>
>> In message <1li8s3n.ocrm8tmh5wjfN%paulfuchs@spamain'tkosher.oink> 
>>   paulfuchs@spamain'tkosher.oink <paulfuchs@spamain'tkosher.oink> wrote:
>> >  I didn't want to upgrade to OSX 9
>> 
>> Don't do that. The version number is 10.9. The same applies to the rest
>> of your post.
>> 
>> > did go first to software update, which only gave me an
>> > option of Mavericks,
>> 
>> No, Software update would most certainly *not* give you an option of
>> Mavericks on a machine running 10.8. You did it wrong.
>
> For those running Mountain Lion (also Snow Leopard and Lion if the
> computer is compatible), the Updates tab in App Store contains what I
> would describe as a banner advertisement for Mavericks, with a "Free
> upgrade" button. It is separate from the list of app updates, and from
> the list of Software Updates (in Mountain Lion).
>
> Choosing Software Update from the Apple menu on Mountain Lion invokes
> App Store and shows the Updates tab, therefore I can understand someone
> on Mountain Lion not paying enough attention and thinking Mavericks is a
> regular software update.

That's exactly what I suspect happened to the OP.

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#57762

In message <1li7ak4.1dbv6hu1t0zfyoN%paulfuchs@spamain'tkosher.oink> 
> 1)  What the hell is going on with Apple?  A few years ago it would have
> been inconceivable that I would have to ask this group a question like
> this.  It seems that Apple has transformed itself into an involuntary
> suppository injector.

I have no idea why you feel the need to ask this question. System
upgrades operate as they have for years. Go to the Apple menu, go to
Software update, Profit!

> 2)  Is this link/upgrade available?

Yes.

> 3)  Any feedback on my choice of 10.8.4?

If you are running 10.8 there is basically no reason to no run 10.9
instead. The order of desirability for recent OS X version is:

10.9 10.6 (if you need Rosetta), 10.7, 10.6 (if you do not need
Rosetta), 10.8.

10.9 is *much* better than 10.8.

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'Vetinari isn't mad.' 'Depends how you look at it. No one can be as sane
as he is without being mad.' --Feet of Clay

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#57776

On 3/9/14 3:25 AM, in article slrnlho5qv.1nee.g.kreme@amelia.local, "Lewis"
<g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> In message <1li7ak4.1dbv6hu1t0zfyoN%paulfuchs@spamain'tkosher.oink>
>> 1)  What the hell is going on with Apple?  A few years ago it would have
>> been inconceivable that I would have to ask this group a question like
>> this.  It seems that Apple has transformed itself into an involuntary
>> suppository injector.
> 
> I have no idea why you feel the need to ask this question. System
> upgrades operate as they have for years. Go to the Apple menu, go to
> Software update, Profit!
> 
>> 2)  Is this link/upgrade available?
> 
> Yes.
> 
>> 3)  Any feedback on my choice of 10.8.4?
> 
> If you are running 10.8 there is basically no reason to no run 10.9
> instead. The order of desirability for recent OS X version is:
> 
> 10.9 10.6 (if you need Rosetta), 10.7, 10.6 (if you do not need
> Rosetta), 10.8.
> 
> 10.9 is *much* better than 10.8.

Different strokes for different folks, ya know?!?

Myself, I'm staying with 10.8.5 because I like that version of iTunes and
the Cover Flow display option, among other things.

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#57780

Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> If you are running 10.8 there is basically no reason to no run 10.9
> instead. The order of desirability for recent OS X version is:
> 
> 10.9 10.6 (if you need Rosetta), 10.7, 10.6 (if you do not need
> Rosetta), 10.8.
> 
> 10.9 is *much* better than 10.8.

Agreed, but why did you put 10.7 ahead of 10.8? 10.7 was a disaster.

-- 
K.

Lang may your lum reek.

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#57803

In message <lfi32n$qh4$1@dont-email.me> 
  Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca> wrote:
> Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>> If you are running 10.8 there is basically no reason to no run 10.9
>> instead. The order of desirability for recent OS X version is:
>> 
>> 10.9 10.6 (if you need Rosetta), 10.7, 10.6 (if you do not need
>> Rosetta), 10.8.
>> 
>> 10.9 is *much* better than 10.8.

> Agreed, but why did you put 10.7 ahead of 10.8? 10.7 was a disaster.

10.7 runs on hardware that 10.8/9 do not. I suppose I should have put a
(if you can't run 10.9) there.

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#57829

Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> 10.7 runs on hardware that 10.8/9 do not. I suppose I should have put a
> (if you can't run 10.9) there.

If I had such a Mac I would stay on Snow Leopard. Lion - ugh.

-- 
K.

Lang may your lum reek.

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