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Re: System Upgrade from 10.8 to 10.8.4

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On 2014-03-09, paulfuchs@spamain'tkosher.oink <paulfuchs@spamain'tkosher.oink> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2014-03-08, paulfuchs@spamain'tkosher.oink
>> <paulfuchs@spamain'tkosher.oink> wrote: > I bought a MacBook Pro about a
>> year and a half ago.  It came with Lion > loaded on the drive, but I was
>> entitled to a free upgrade to Mountain > Lion.  I put in for the free
>> upgrade but, for a variety of reasons, held > off installing it.  Today I
>> decided to do so.  So my About this Mac now > reads OSX 10.8.  I then
>> wanted to upgrade to the latest reasonably > unbuggy version.  After a
>> little research I figure that this may well be > 10.8.4.  I definitely do
>> not want to go to Maverick, OSX 9, free or > otherwise.  This old dog
>> doesn't wish to learn a lot of new tricks.  But > I can't find a link
>> anywhere for what use to be considered a free > upgrade version.  Three
>> questions: > > 1)  What the hell is going on with Apple?  A few years ago
>> it would have > been inconceivable that I would have to ask this group a
>> question like > this.  It seems that Apple has transformed itself into an
>> involuntary > suppository injector.
>> 
>> I'm confused as to why you are having a hard time finding this, and have
>> to wonder what exactly you've tried so far in your search.
>> 
>> It almost sounds as if you do not want to use Apple's built-in software
>> update facility (Apple menu > Software Update). Are you averse to using
>> that for some reason?
>> 
>> Anyhow, a simple Google search shows a hit on support.apple.com named "OS
>> X Mountain Lion Update v10.8.4 - Apple - Support - Downloads". Clicking
>> that leads you here, where you can manually download and install said
>> update (and even some newer ones):
>> 
>> <http://support.apple.com/downloads/#osxmountainlion>
>> 
>> > 2)  Is this link/upgrade available?
>> 
>> See above.
>> 
>> > 3)  Any feedback on my choice of 10.8.4?
>> 
>> In general, I would encourage you to use the latest available release.
>> 
>> If you are willing to use 10.8, then you should strongly consider
>> upgrading to 10.9, which fixes a whole lot of issues that people
>> complained about when 10.8 was released. In a lot of ways, 10.9 is a big
>> round of fixes for issues introduces in 10.8.
>
> I am having a hard time for the following reasons:
>
>  I didn't want to upgrade to OSX 9 for my own peronal reasons at this
> point.  

Not sure what your personal reasons are, but excluding significant bug
fixes and improvements over some bad stuff introduced in 10.9, there is
very little difference in functionality between 10.8 and 10.9. If you
like 10.8, you will almost surely like 10.9 even more.

(Also, just a note: While I and others here will know what you mean, you
may want to be careful calling it "OSX 9", as it may confuse some people
into thinking you are perhaps talking about classic Mac OS 9, or perhaps
that you are simply confused yourself as to which version you are
talking about. The proper version number for Mac OS X Mountain
Lion is "10.9".)

> I can always do it at a later point.  I wanted to upgrade to the
> latest version of OSX 8.x prior to the release of 9.  However, not
> staying very current on Mac issues, I didn't know that OSX 9 was a free
> upgrade, so I did go first to software update, which only gave me an
> option of Mavericks, which of course is 9.

It's possible you were just confused. As you may have noticed, when you
choose Apple menu > Software Update, the App Store application is
launched. This is because Software Update is now combined with
the App Store, and is available in the "Updates" section. What should
happen when you choose Software Update from the Apple menu is the App
Store application should launch, and the Updates section should be
displayed. It then take a moment while the app checks with Apple's
servers to see which updates are available. Perhaps while that was
happening, you clicked into one of the other App Store sections and saw
the 10.9 banner offering 10.9 for free, and assumed that was the update
that was available? If you are running 10.8, and you look
at the Updates section of the App Store application, you should
eventually see all of the available updates for 10.8.

> I did try to install it and
> got an error message.  After a second 40 minute download of almost a GB,
> the same thing happened.  I then started researching it a bit, to
> discover that Mavericks is in fact OSX 9 and Apple's first free upgrade
> of a "new number" version.  Beware Greeks bearing gifts!

Like I said, 10.9 improves lots of bad things that were introduced in
10.8. It's a recommended upgrade.

> I then went into the Apple site but was unable to find an update to
> either 8.4 or 8.5.  Also spent quite a bit of time with Google trying to
> find a link.  At that point I contacted this group for help.
>
> Billy's  original link only gave me iOS dates even though I definitely
> highlighted Mac OS.  However, he followed up with some other links which
> I will check out shortly.

This I don't understand. A web search should bring you to the Apple
updates page for Mac OS X 10.8. When I go to this page, I see all
available updates for 10.8:

<http://support.apple.com/downloads/#osxmountainlion>

Here's a screen shot of what I see:

<http://jollyroger.kicks-ass.org/apple_mountainlion_updates.png>

> Frankly, I love Snow Leopard and would have been delighted to stay with
> it.  When my MacBook died and I bought a new MacBook Pro in August of
> 2012, I didn't realize at that time that Apple had pulled out Rosetta
> from Lion.  If I had known I would have bought a refurb.  I lost almost
> all of my third party apps that I was very comfortable with.  I am a
> retiree living on SS, and upgrading all these apps to Intel is an
> expense I can easiy do without, thank you.  And for me for the last four
> years at least, I find every nominal upgrade is a de facto downgrade in
> quality.  Moving mp3's in itunes to my iPod now crashes several times a
> week.  Never had that problem until I "upgraded" iTunes a few months
> ago.

Apple does need to spend some more quality time with Mac OS and get it
to a more stable state. It's a bit rough around the edges as of late.
But even so, it's not all bad. And I found that a lot of the third-party
apps I used to use back in 10.6 were fairly easily replaced with
alternative ones that are in many cases more powerful anyway.

There's no reason you can't stay with 10.6 indefinitely. The market for
older Macs is huge. So you can find any number of older models capable
of running 10.6 quite easily if that's what you want. Just keep in mind
the world doesn't stand still. 10.6 will become more and more obsolete
as time marches on.

-- 
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JR

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System Upgrade from 10.8 to 10.8.4 paulfuchs@spamain'tkosher.oink - 2014-03-08 17:45 -0600
  Re: System Upgrade from 10.8 to 10.8.4 billy@MIX.COM - 2014-03-09 00:14 +0000
    Re: System Upgrade from 10.8 to 10.8.4 paulfuchs@spamain'tkosher.oink - 2014-03-08 18:35 -0600
      Re: System Upgrade from 10.8 to 10.8.4 billy@MIX.COM - 2014-03-09 00:55 +0000
        Re: System Upgrade from 10.8 to 10.8.4 John Albert <j.albert@snet.net> - 2014-03-09 16:20 -0400
        Re: System Upgrade from 10.8 to 10.8.4 paulfuchs@spamain'tkosher.oink - 2014-03-09 19:21 -0600
      Re: System Upgrade from 10.8 to 10.8.4 Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-03-09 11:45 -0400
  Re: System Upgrade from 10.8 to 10.8.4 me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-03-09 00:55 +0000
  Re: System Upgrade from 10.8 to 10.8.4 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-09 01:18 +0000
    Re: System Upgrade from 10.8 to 10.8.4 paulfuchs@spamain'tkosher.oink - 2014-03-09 13:20 -0600
      Re: System Upgrade from 10.8 to 10.8.4 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-09 20:44 +0000
      Re: System Upgrade from 10.8 to 10.8.4 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-09 23:10 +0000
        Re: System Upgrade from 10.8 to 10.8.4 dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-03-10 14:45 +1300
          Re: System Upgrade from 10.8 to 10.8.4 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-10 15:31 +0000
  Re: System Upgrade from 10.8 to 10.8.4 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-09 07:25 +0000
    Re: System Upgrade from 10.8 to 10.8.4 George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-03-09 10:42 -0500
    Re: System Upgrade from 10.8 to 10.8.4 me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-03-09 15:58 +0000
      Re: System Upgrade from 10.8 to 10.8.4 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-09 23:05 +0000
        Re: System Upgrade from 10.8 to 10.8.4 me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-03-10 02:12 +0000

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