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  OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-09-30 19:46 -0500
    Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-09-30 17:49 -0700
      Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-01 19:08 +0000
        Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-01 15:43 -0700
          Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-10-01 16:31 -0700
        Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-03 09:55 -0500
          Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-03 16:51 -0700
            Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-05 10:22 -0500
              Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-05 08:48 -0700
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-05 11:23 -0500
                  Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-05 11:38 -0500
                    Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-07 09:54 -0500
                      Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-07 08:31 -0700
                  Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-05 18:38 +0100
                    Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-06 09:34 +1300
                      Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-06 09:24 -0700
                        Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-07 09:21 +1300
                          Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-06 16:51 -0400
                            Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-06 15:34 -0700
                              Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-07 18:56 +1300
                        Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-07 09:55 +1300
                          Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-07 19:03 +1300
                            Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-07 09:47 -0500
                              Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-08 09:26 +1300
                    Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-06 09:33 -0500
                      Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-06 08:35 -0700
                      Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-06 16:53 +0100
                  Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-05 10:59 -0700
                    Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-05 16:02 -0400
                      Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-05 16:51 -0700
      Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-10-01 16:25 -0700
    Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Suze <replytome@thenewsgroup.com> - 2013-09-30 20:42 -0500
      Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-09-30 23:00 -0400
    Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Matthew Lybanon <lybanon@earthlink.net> - 2013-10-01 09:29 -0500
      Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-01 09:16 -0700
        Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-01 11:24 -0700
          Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-01 14:30 -0400
            Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-01 11:37 -0700
              Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-01 19:17 +0000
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway claudel@sonic.net (Claude V. Lucas) - 2013-10-01 19:57 +0000
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-01 15:46 -0700
                  Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-02 10:21 +0000
              Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-01 21:38 -0400
              Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-03 09:54 -0500
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-04 09:08 +1200
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-03 16:54 -0700
        Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-03 09:51 -0500
          Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-03 08:16 -0700
            Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-03 15:54 -0400
              Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-03 20:03 -0700
              Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-04 18:11 +1200
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-04 12:12 +0000
                  Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-04 14:34 +0100
                    Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-04 16:12 +0000
                      Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-04 17:48 +0100
                        Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-04 19:44 +0000
                          Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-04 16:03 -0400
                          Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-05 09:57 +1200
                            Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-04 18:01 -0400
                              Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-05 11:21 +1200
                            Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-04 19:24 -0700
                          Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-04 22:26 +0100
                            Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-05 11:19 +1200
                            Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-04 23:33 +0000
                              Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-05 13:41 +1200
                              Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-05 09:21 +0100
                                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-05 12:41 +0000
                                  Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-05 14:18 +0100
                                    Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-05 13:58 +0000
                                  Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-05 07:35 -0700
                                  Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-05 15:17 -0400
                                    Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-06 10:07 +1300
                                      Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-05 17:15 -0400
                                  Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-06 10:00 +1300
                                    Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-05 22:45 +0100
                                      Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-06 17:29 +1300
                                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-10-05 17:59 +0200
                            Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-04 19:18 -0700
                              Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-07 10:06 +1300
                        Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-05 09:51 +1200
                          Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-04 23:37 +0000
                      Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-05 09:47 +1200
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-10-04 13:41 -0700
                  Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-04 17:59 -0400
                    Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-05 09:23 +0100
              Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-04 12:12 +0000
            Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-03 16:55 -0700
      Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-01 14:41 -0400
        Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Matthew Lybanon <lybanon@earthlink.net> - 2013-10-02 09:34 -0500
          Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-02 14:50 -0400
          Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway William Munny <will@bigwhiskey.gov> - 2013-10-02 15:19 -0400
          Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-10-02 14:47 -0700
          Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-10-02 15:19 -0700
            Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-03 10:02 -0500
              Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-03 16:07 +0100
          Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-03 10:00 -0500
            Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-03 16:50 -0700
        Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-03 09:55 -0500
      Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-02 09:44 +1200
    Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-01 10:55 -0700
      Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-01 19:14 +0000
        Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-01 13:52 -0700
        Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-03 09:56 -0500
      Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-03 09:53 -0500

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#49402

In article <051020130957174642%YourName@YourISP.com>,
 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> Here in New Zealand some city councils claim the Segway are "vehicles" 
> and so cannot be used on footpaths. They must be used on the roads ... 
> but they can't go on the roads because they don't fit the legal 
> requirements for a vehicle (lights, etc.) and don't qualify as bicycles.

Pretty much the same in San Francisco.

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All usenet users are quirky, but some are more quirky than others.

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#49337

In article <slrnl4u6kn.446.g.kreme@mbp55.local>,
 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> In message <timstreater-5097F8.17480504102013@news.individual.net> 
>   Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:

> > How do you book someone (that is, leave a ticket on their car) without 
> > getting out? Or is long arms a prerequisite for the job? (Cue jokes 
> > about simians).
> 
> They drive along next to the parked cars and stick the tickets under the 
> wipers.

That's a clever trick when the parking spaces on either side of the 
target car are occupied. Or are Ritas issued with army surplus tanks? As 
in, just squash the fucker, as shown in that Mr Bean episode.

-- 
Tim

"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"  --  Bill of Rights 1689

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#49383

In article <timstreater-5FF9E5.22265604102013@news.individual.net>, Tim
Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> In article <slrnl4u6kn.446.g.kreme@mbp55.local>,
>  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> > In message <timstreater-5097F8.17480504102013@news.individual.net> 
> >   Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> > > 
> > > How do you book someone (that is, leave a ticket on their car) without 
> > > getting out? Or is long arms a prerequisite for the job? (Cue jokes 
> > > about simians).
> > 
> > They drive along next to the parked cars and stick the tickets under the 
> > wipers.
> 
> That's a clever trick when the parking spaces on either side of the 
> target car are occupied. Or are Ritas issued with army surplus tanks? As 
> in, just squash the fucker, as shown in that Mr Bean episode.

Nope, no tanks involved. They just reach over from the street - it
isn't called "the long arm of the law" for nothing.  ;-)

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#49390

In message <timstreater-5FF9E5.22265604102013@news.individual.net> 
  Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> In article <slrnl4u6kn.446.g.kreme@mbp55.local>,
>  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>> In message <timstreater-5097F8.17480504102013@news.individual.net> 
>>   Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:

>> > How do you book someone (that is, leave a ticket on their car) without 
>> > getting out? Or is long arms a prerequisite for the job? (Cue jokes 
>> > about simians).
>> 
>> They drive along next to the parked cars and stick the tickets under the 
>> wipers.

> That's a clever trick when the parking spaces on either side of the 
> target car are occupied. Or are Ritas issued with army surplus tanks? As 
> in, just squash the fucker, as shown in that Mr Bean episode.

Almost all metered parking is end to end, not side by side. You
generally only see side-by-side parking in small towns, and that's often
not metered.

I suppose if it were, the meter maid would walk the sidewalk to ticket
cars.

-- 
Latet anguis in herba.

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#49393

In article <slrnl4uk1k.dnk.g.kreme@mbp55.local>, Lewis
<g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> In message <timstreater-5FF9E5.22265604102013@news.individual.net> 
>   Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> > In article <slrnl4u6kn.446.g.kreme@mbp55.local>,
> >  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> 
> >> In message <timstreater-5097F8.17480504102013@news.individual.net> 
> >>   Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> 
> >> > How do you book someone (that is, leave a ticket on their car) without 
> >> > getting out? Or is long arms a prerequisite for the job? (Cue jokes 
> >> > about simians).
> >> 
> >> They drive along next to the parked cars and stick the tickets under the 
> >> wipers.
> 
> > That's a clever trick when the parking spaces on either side of the 
> > target car are occupied. Or are Ritas issued with army surplus tanks? As 
> > in, just squash the fucker, as shown in that Mr Bean episode.
> 
> Almost all metered parking is end to end, not side by side. You
> generally only see side-by-side parking in small towns, and that's often
> not metered.
> 
> I suppose if it were, the meter maid would walk the sidewalk to ticket
> cars.

Here in New Zealand parking wardens can give tickets for expired
parking metres / parking receipts, parking too long in areas signposted
as specific time limits (wihtout metres), and illegal or obstructive
parking. For the time limit signposted ones they go around and put a
chalk mark on the tyre (although these days I think they also note it
down on a small tablet-like device), and if it's still there next time
around the circuit, they give you a ticket.

In some places there's also a local by-law that means they can give you
a ticket if you kindly give your excess parking time to another person
(e.g. you pay for two hours and put the parking receipt in the car's
window, but are only there for half-an-quarter so give the parking
receipt to the next person). Of course that's because the greedy
council wasn't making as much money as they wanted / expected, so with
the new law they're basically just stealing people's money since you
can't get a refund for the excess unused time. :-(

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#49412

In article <slrnl4uk1k.dnk.g.kreme@mbp55.local>,
 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> In message <timstreater-5FF9E5.22265604102013@news.individual.net> 
>   Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> > In article <slrnl4u6kn.446.g.kreme@mbp55.local>,
> >  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> 
> >> In message <timstreater-5097F8.17480504102013@news.individual.net> 
> >>   Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> 
> >> > How do you book someone (that is, leave a ticket on their car) without 
> >> > getting out? Or is long arms a prerequisite for the job? (Cue jokes 
> >> > about simians).
> >> 
> >> They drive along next to the parked cars and stick the tickets under the 
> >> wipers.
> 
> > That's a clever trick when the parking spaces on either side of the 
> > target car are occupied. Or are Ritas issued with army surplus tanks? As 
> > in, just squash the fucker, as shown in that Mr Bean episode.
> 
> Almost all metered parking is end to end, not side by side. You
> generally only see side-by-side parking in small towns, and that's often
> not metered.

Almost all end-to-end parking here is residential only. Otherwise most 
people park, oddly enough, in car parks where it's side by side.

-- 
Tim

"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"  --  Bill of Rights 1689

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#49420

In message <timstreater-6D4449.09210505102013@news.individual.net> 
  Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> In article <slrnl4uk1k.dnk.g.kreme@mbp55.local>,
>  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>> In message <timstreater-5FF9E5.22265604102013@news.individual.net> 
>>   Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>> > In article <slrnl4u6kn.446.g.kreme@mbp55.local>,
>> >  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>> 
>> >> In message <timstreater-5097F8.17480504102013@news.individual.net> 
>> >>   Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>> 
>> >> > How do you book someone (that is, leave a ticket on their car) without 
>> >> > getting out? Or is long arms a prerequisite for the job? (Cue jokes 
>> >> > about simians).
>> >> 
>> >> They drive along next to the parked cars and stick the tickets under the 
>> >> wipers.
>> 
>> > That's a clever trick when the parking spaces on either side of the 
>> > target car are occupied. Or are Ritas issued with army surplus tanks? As 
>> > in, just squash the fucker, as shown in that Mr Bean episode.
>> 
>> Almost all metered parking is end to end, not side by side. You
>> generally only see side-by-side parking in small towns, and that's often
>> not metered.

> Almost all end-to-end parking here is residential only. Otherwise most 
> people park, oddly enough, in car parks where it's side by side.

Car parks are not metered though. They are also almost always private,
so no meter maid would be going about them issuing tickets.

Metered parking is nearly always end to end. I don't know why this is
called "parallel" parking, since the car are obviously in serial
configuration. Maybe it means "parallel to the street/curb"?


-- 
Talk is cheap because supply exceeds demand.

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#49425

In article <slrnl5027t.hck.g.kreme@mbp55.local>,
 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> In message <timstreater-6D4449.09210505102013@news.individual.net> 
>   Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> > In article <slrnl4uk1k.dnk.g.kreme@mbp55.local>,
> >  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> >> Almost all metered parking is end to end, not side by side. You
> >> generally only see side-by-side parking in small towns, and that's often
> >> not metered.
> 
> > Almost all end-to-end parking here is residential only. Otherwise most 
> > people park, oddly enough, in car parks where it's side by side.
> 
> Car parks are not metered though. They are also almost always private,
> so no meter maid would be going about them issuing tickets.

Most car parks here are pay-and-display, and Rita comes round from time 
to time to check that your ticket hasn't expired. Others (such as at 
airports or railway stations, you get a ticket on entry and have to feed 
it into a machine when you want to leave, pay, then use the validated 
ticket to exit from the car park.

-- 
Tim

"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"  --  Bill of Rights 1689

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#49426

In message <timstreater-1C75A7.14180105102013@news.individual.net> 
  Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> In article <slrnl5027t.hck.g.kreme@mbp55.local>,
>  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>> In message <timstreater-6D4449.09210505102013@news.individual.net> 
>>   Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>> > In article <slrnl4uk1k.dnk.g.kreme@mbp55.local>,
>> >  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>> >> Almost all metered parking is end to end, not side by side. You
>> >> generally only see side-by-side parking in small towns, and that's often
>> >> not metered.
>> 
>> > Almost all end-to-end parking here is residential only. Otherwise most 
>> > people park, oddly enough, in car parks where it's side by side.
>> 
>> Car parks are not metered though. They are also almost always private,
>> so no meter maid would be going about them issuing tickets.

> Most car parks here are pay-and-display, and Rita comes round from time 
> to time to check that your ticket hasn't expired.

We do have lots like those, but the person coming around checking is not
a meter maid, and doesn't issue tickets.

>Others (such as at airports or railway stations, you get a ticket on
>entry and have to feed it into a machine when you want to leave, pay,
>then use the validated ticket to exit from the car park.

Those are more common.

-- 
what was supposed to be so special about a full moon? It was only a big
circle of light. And the dark of the moon was only darkness.  But
half-way between the two, when the moon was between the worlds of light
and dark, when even the moon lived on the edge... maybe then a witch
could believe in the moon. --Witches Abroad

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#49430

In article <slrnl5027t.hck.g.kreme@mbp55.local>,
 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> Metered parking is nearly always end to end. I don't know why this is
> called "parallel" parking, since the car are obviously in serial
> configuration. Maybe it means "parallel to the street/curb"?

That's exactly the reason it's called "parallel parking".  If it's the only 
car parked on the block, it can't be end to end, can it?

-- 
All usenet users are quirky, but some are more quirky than others.

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#49452

On 13-10-05 08:41, Lewis wrote:

> Metered parking is nearly always end to end. I don't know why this is
> called "parallel" parking, since the car are obviously in serial
> configuration. Maybe it means "parallel to the street/curb"?

For streets which are wide enough, parking is sometimes with cars
perpendicular to sidewalk (or at an angle to make it easy for them to
enter/exit). You can then park more cars in the same length of street.
And you then have a parking meter facing the front of cars instead of
their sides.

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#49475

In article <525065c2$0$50663$c3e8da3$92d0a893@news.astraweb.com>, JF
Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> On 13-10-05 08:41, Lewis wrote:
> > 
> > Metered parking is nearly always end to end. I don't know why this is
> > called "parallel" parking, since the car are obviously in serial
> > configuration. Maybe it means "parallel to the street/curb"?
> 
> For streets which are wide enough, parking is sometimes with cars
> perpendicular to sidewalk (or at an angle to make it easy for them to
> enter/exit). You can then park more cars in the same length of street.
> And you then have a parking meter facing the front of cars instead of
> their sides.

Technically you do get more cars in the "same length of street", but
they take up about twice as much width, so the amount of parking space
used up is actually about the same (if you had two rows of parallel
parked cars).

Angle / perpendicular parking is usually done on busier / narrower
streets because it is faster to park in them than using parallel
parking (which causes hold-ups as the driver tries to back in). You do
get a similar hold-up when the angled parker tries to back out, but
most people are so hopeless at parallel parking that it takes them far
longer and multiple attempts.

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#49476

In article <061020131007218629%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your Name
<YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> > > Metered parking is nearly always end to end. I don't know why this is
> > > called "parallel" parking, since the car are obviously in serial
> > > configuration. Maybe it means "parallel to the street/curb"?
> > 
> > For streets which are wide enough, parking is sometimes with cars
> > perpendicular to sidewalk (or at an angle to make it easy for them to
> > enter/exit). You can then park more cars in the same length of street.
> > And you then have a parking meter facing the front of cars instead of
> > their sides.
> 
> Technically you do get more cars in the "same length of street", but
> they take up about twice as much width, so the amount of parking space
> used up is actually about the same (if you had two rows of parallel
> parked cars).
> 
> Angle / perpendicular parking is usually done on busier / narrower
> streets because it is faster to park in them than using parallel
> parking (which causes hold-ups as the driver tries to back in). You do
> get a similar hold-up when the angled parker tries to back out, but
> most people are so hopeless at parallel parking that it takes them far
> longer and multiple attempts.

actually, angle parking is done on wider streets because it takes up so
much more width.

narrow streets have parallel parking or no parking at all. angle
parking would not fit.

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#49472

In article <slrnl5027t.hck.g.kreme@mbp55.local>, Lewis
<g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> In message <timstreater-6D4449.09210505102013@news.individual.net> 
>   Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> > In article <slrnl4uk1k.dnk.g.kreme@mbp55.local>,
> >  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> 
> >> In message <timstreater-5FF9E5.22265604102013@news.individual.net> 
> >>   Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> >> > In article <slrnl4u6kn.446.g.kreme@mbp55.local>,
> >> >  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> >> 
> >> >> In message <timstreater-5097F8.17480504102013@news.individual.net> 
> >> >>   Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> >> 
> >> >> > How do you book someone (that is, leave a ticket on their car)
> >> >> > without 
> >> >> > getting out? Or is long arms a prerequisite for the job? (Cue jokes 
> >> >> > about simians).
> >> >> 
> >> >> They drive along next to the parked cars and stick the tickets under
> >> >> the 
> >> >> wipers.
> >> 
> >> > That's a clever trick when the parking spaces on either side of the 
> >> > target car are occupied. Or are Ritas issued with army surplus tanks? As 
> >> > in, just squash the fucker, as shown in that Mr Bean episode.
> >> 
> >> Almost all metered parking is end to end, not side by side. You
> >> generally only see side-by-side parking in small towns, and that's often
> >> not metered.
> 
> > Almost all end-to-end parking here is residential only. Otherwise most 
> > people park, oddly enough, in car parks where it's side by side.
> 
> Car parks are not metered though. They are also almost always private,
> so no meter maid would be going about them issuing tickets.

Depends where you live. Some parking buildings / parking lots are owned
by the local Council, so are patrolled by their ticket officers.



> Metered parking is nearly always end to end. I don't know why this is
> called "parallel" parking, since the car are obviously in serial
> configuration. Maybe it means "parallel to the street/curb"?

Yes, it is parrallel to the curb.

It usually depends on the width of the street and how busy it is as to
whether they chose to use "parallel to the curb" or "perpendicular /
angular to the curb" parking. Either method can use "metered" parking -
these days actual inidividual parking metres for each car are fast
disappearing and being replaced by a pay station that issues a
time-stamped receipt to put in your car window.

Having to pay for parking (or even time-limited free parking) is rather
ridiculous and simply puts many people off bothering to go there, and
then the idiots in local Council stupidly wonder why they don't have as
many visitors to the area.  :-\  There's one suburban shopping area
near me that has paid parking areas, and it's virtually a ghost town
for shoppers compared to the other surrounding suburbs that have free
parking.

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#49478

In article <061020131000324102%YourName@YourISP.com>,
 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> Having to pay for parking (or even time-limited free parking) is rather
> ridiculous and simply puts many people off bothering to go there, and
> then the idiots in local Council stupidly wonder why they don't have as
> many visitors to the area.  :-\  There's one suburban shopping area
> near me that has paid parking areas, and it's virtually a ghost town
> for shoppers compared to the other surrounding suburbs that have free
> parking.

Well it depends, dunnit. If that car park is close to the railway 
station, the last thing you want is for commuters to clog it up by 
parking there all day.

-- 
Tim

"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"  --  Bill of Rights 1689

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#49507

In article <timstreater-6211B9.22451405102013@news.individual.net>, Tim
Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> In article <061020131000324102%YourName@YourISP.com>,
>  Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Having to pay for parking (or even time-limited free parking) is rather
> > ridiculous and simply puts many people off bothering to go there, and
> > then the idiots in local Council stupidly wonder why they don't have as
> > many visitors to the area.  :-\  There's one suburban shopping area
> > near me that has paid parking areas, and it's virtually a ghost town
> > for shoppers compared to the other surrounding suburbs that have free
> > parking.
> 
> Well it depends, dunnit. If that car park is close to the railway 
> station, the last thing you want is for commuters to clog it up by 
> parking there all day.

Makes no real difference. Instead of clogging up the car park, they
just clog up the free parking in the local side streets instead.

One of the places I do work for has a lot of people parking in the free
areas and then walking or taking a short bus ride to get to the city
centre and university area where they would have to pay over-priced
amounts for parking.

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#49448

In article <timstreater-6D4449.09210505102013@news.individual.net>,
 Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:

> In article <slrnl4uk1k.dnk.g.kreme@mbp55.local>,
>  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> 
> > In message <timstreater-5FF9E5.22265604102013@news.individual.net> 
> >   Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> > > In article <slrnl4u6kn.446.g.kreme@mbp55.local>,
> > >  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> > 
> > >> In message <timstreater-5097F8.17480504102013@news.individual.net> 
> > >>   Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> > 
> > >> > How do you book someone (that is, leave a ticket on their car) without 
> > >> > getting out? Or is long arms a prerequisite for the job? (Cue jokes 
> > >> > about simians).
> > >> 
> > >> They drive along next to the parked cars and stick the tickets under the 
> > >> wipers.
> > 
> > > That's a clever trick when the parking spaces on either side of the 
> > > target car are occupied. Or are Ritas issued with army surplus tanks? As 
> > > in, just squash the fucker, as shown in that Mr Bean episode.
> > 
> > Almost all metered parking is end to end, not side by side. You
> > generally only see side-by-side parking in small towns, and that's often
> > not metered.
> 
> Almost all end-to-end parking here is residential only. Otherwise most 
> people park, oddly enough, in car parks where it's side by side.

In Switzerland there's a mixture of end to end and side by side metered 
parking.  Over the last 10 years or more the traditional 1 meter per 2 
places for end to end parking has been superseded by an electronic jobby 
serving a group of parking bays where you tap your parking bay number in 
before you pay.  This means that parking wardens can check the lot to 
see what is overdue without walking up the whole row.

There are also blue parking zones which are free for up to 2 hours or 
more, depending on the area, and you leave a cardboard clock on your 
dashboard showing the time it is due to expire.  Cheating on that is 
apparently expensive if you get caught.

Underground or multi-storey car parks have a ticket and barrier system.

-- 
Paul Sture

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#49401

In article <timstreater-5FF9E5.22265604102013@news.individual.net>,
 Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:

> > They drive along next to the parked cars and stick the tickets under 
> > the wipers.
> 
> That's a clever trick when the parking spaces on either side of the 
> target car are occupied. Or are Ritas issued with army surplus tanks? As 
> in, just squash the fucker, as shown in that Mr Bean episode.

You ever hear of parallel parking?  Most on-street parking (which is where 
parking meters usually are) is parallel to the curb.

-- 
All usenet users are quirky, but some are more quirky than others.

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#49575

Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <timstreater-5FF9E5.22265604102013@news.individual.net>,
>  Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> 
> > > They drive along next to the parked cars and stick the tickets under
> > > the wipers.
> > 
> > That's a clever trick when the parking spaces on either side of the
> > target car are occupied. Or are Ritas issued with army surplus tanks? As
> > in, just squash the fucker, as shown in that Mr Bean episode.
> 
> You ever hear of parallel parking?  Most on-street parking (which is where
> parking meters usually are) is parallel to the curb.

It depends here in NZ simply on the width of the street. Angle parking
is preferred as more car parks can be fit in the street, and the act of
parking is almost made much easier. You'll only find parallel parks
where space doesn't allow.
-- 
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

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#49334

In article <timstreater-5097F8.17480504102013@news.individual.net>, Tim
Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> In article <slrnl4tq7g.kaq.g.kreme@jaka.local>,
>  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> > In message <timstreater-6AE6F8.14342004102013@news.individual.net> 
> >   Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> > > In article <slrnl4tc5u.2f98.g.kreme@mbp55.local>,
> > >  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> > 
> > >> In message <041020131811379602%YourName@YourISP.com> 
> > >>   Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> > >> > In article <524dcb5d$0$10184$c3e8da3$9b4ff22a@news.astraweb.com>, JF
> > >> > Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> > >> >> 
> > >> >> To bring this back on topic, do congressman still get paid when they
> > >> >> shutdown government and put over 200,000 people out of work ?
> > >> 
> > >> > To really bring it back on topic ("Woman Shot in Driveway") ... I guess
> > >> > that's what happens when silly American laws allow parking wardens to
> > >> > carry guns ... "Oi! You parked in a No Parking Zone, and didn't wait
> > >> > for me to write up the ticket ... *bang!*"  ;-)
> > >> 
> > >> I've never seen a meter maid with a gun.
> > 
> > > Perhaps you are able to recognise the characteristics that allow you to 
> > > distinguish between members of the myriad of different police forces in 
> > > the US, and the various official and semi-official look-alikes. Even 
> > > though I lived there for 12 years, I was still unable to do so at the 
> > > time I made my escape to safety.
> > 
> > Well, around here, Meter maids 1) don't have badges
> 
> What, none at all? So anyone dinging you for parking could just as well 
> be working for the Ministry of Silly Walks for all you know.

One beach-side city in Australia does (or did a couple of years ago)
have some metre maids who wear bikinis.   :-\



> > 2) don't have guns
> 
> Ah, a hint of civilisation.
> 
> > 3) don't have police uniforms 3) don't drive police cars
> 
> **** Error: duplicate key
> 
> > 4) don't get out of their vehicles.
> 
> How do you book someone (that is, leave a ticket on their car) without 
> getting out? Or is long arms a prerequisite for the job? (Cue jokes 
> about simians).

These days you could use technology to ticket the vehicle via post /
email rathe than leaving a paper ticket on the windscreen that (as
allegedly claimed by the "offender") gets destroyed by rain / sun or
blown away in the wind so that they "didn't see it".

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