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| Started by | Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> |
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| First post | 2014-01-27 09:07 -0700 |
| Last post | 2014-02-02 12:46 -0500 |
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An iTunes ecosystem complaint Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-27 09:07 -0700
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Alan Ralph <alan.ralph@gmail.com> - 2014-01-27 16:22 +0000
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-27 13:06 -0500
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-27 23:31 -0700
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Michael Eyd <news@eyd.de> - 2014-01-27 17:48 +0100
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-27 13:06 -0500
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-27 23:38 -0700
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-27 23:38 -0700
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-28 13:34 +0000
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-27 13:06 -0500
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-27 22:50 +0000
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-27 18:33 -0500
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-27 19:06 -0600
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-28 13:34 +0000
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-27 23:39 -0700
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Jeffrey Kaplan <nomail@gordol.org> - 2014-01-30 00:18 +0000
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-29 18:04 -0700
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-30 13:23 +0000
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Jeffrey Kaplan <nomail@gordol.org> - 2014-02-02 03:20 +0000
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-01 22:11 -0700
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Jeffrey Kaplan <nomail@gordol.org> - 2014-02-04 03:12 +0000
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-04 00:14 -0700
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-02 12:46 -0500
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Jeffrey Kaplan <nomail@gordol.org> - 2014-02-04 03:13 +0000
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-29 23:17 -0500
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Jeffrey Kaplan <nomail@gordol.org> - 2014-02-02 03:23 +0000
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-02 04:58 +0000
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-01 22:17 -0700
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-02 12:46 -0500
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-02 11:15 -0700
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-02 14:06 -0500
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-02 13:22 -0700
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-02 17:59 -0500
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-02 17:54 -0700
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-03 12:28 -0500
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-03 19:27 -0700
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-03 23:46 -0500
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-04 00:13 -0700
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-04 14:42 -0500
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 00:30 -0700
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-05 12:13 -0500
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 10:31 -0700
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-05 13:34 -0500
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 12:04 -0700
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-05 15:39 -0500
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-02-04 17:01 +0000
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Jeffrey Kaplan <nomail@gordol.org> - 2014-02-04 03:22 +0000
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-02 22:06 +0000
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-02 15:20 -0700
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-02 17:59 -0500
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-02 17:46 -0700
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-03 12:28 -0500
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-03 18:39 -0700
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-03 23:46 -0500
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-04 00:11 -0700
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-04 14:46 +0000
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-04 08:00 -0700
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-04 17:13 +0000
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-04 10:25 -0700
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-04 14:42 -0500
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 00:31 -0700
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-04 14:42 -0500
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 00:22 -0700
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-02-06 23:59 +0000
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-03 01:49 +0000
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-02 22:05 -0700
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-03 13:57 +0000
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-03 12:28 -0500
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-03 18:37 -0700
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-03 23:46 -0500
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-04 00:10 -0700
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-04 14:42 -0500
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 00:27 -0700
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-05 12:13 -0500
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 10:30 -0700
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-05 13:34 -0500
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-04 14:43 +0000
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-02-04 17:01 +0000
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-04 14:42 -0500
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-02-04 17:01 +0000
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-03 12:28 -0500
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-02 17:59 -0500
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-02-03 19:33 +0000
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-03 17:22 -0500
Re: An iTunes ecosystem complaint nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-02 12:46 -0500
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| From | Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> |
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| Date | 2014-01-27 09:07 -0700 |
| Subject | An iTunes ecosystem complaint |
| Message-ID | <270120140907421472%michelle@michelle.org> |
One thing I like about the iTunes ecosystem is that when you purchase something from the iTunes or App store, it propagates to all your devices. What I do not like is that when you update an app on one device, it does not update on all of them. Updates downloaded to an iOS device can be put on the computer only by physically connecting them via USB and manually syncing them if you normally sync to the cloud. (I'm not sure whether this is true if the WiFi sync is to the computer, though.)
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| From | Alan Ralph <alan.ralph@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-01-27 16:22 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lc614k$cca$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #55482 |
On 27/01/2014 16:07, Michelle Steiner wrote: > One thing I like about the iTunes ecosystem is that when you purchase > something from the iTunes or App store, it propagates to all your > devices. What I do not like is that when you update an app on one > device, it does not update on all of them. Updates downloaded to an > iOS device can be put on the computer only by physically connecting > them via USB and manually syncing them if you normally sync to the > cloud. (I'm not sure whether this is true if the WiFi sync is to the > computer, though.) Hi Michelle, iTunes *can* sync to devices over WiFi once you tell it to, however I've found it doesn't always do so, sometimes failing to find either my iPhone or iPad. As a result, I've pretty much given up using iTunes for app updates and now just let the devices keep themselves up-to-date. The day Apple introduced that ability into iOS was a good one, as far as I'm concerned. :) Alan
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-01-27 13:06 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <270120141306070457%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #55483 |
In article <lc614k$cca$1@dont-email.me>, Alan Ralph <alan.ralph@gmail.com> wrote: > iTunes *can* sync to devices over WiFi once you tell it to, however I've > found it doesn't always do so, sometimes failing to find either my > iPhone or iPad. usually this happens if wifi sync is initiated from the device. it's more reliable if it is initiated from itunes. > As a result, I've pretty much given up using iTunes for app updates and > now just let the devices keep themselves up-to-date. The day Apple > introduced that ability into iOS was a good one, as far as I'm concerned. :) i have that off because it can sometimes be a problem. it's not unusual that a developer will release an update, only to find that it crashes on some devices, and then they must scramble to release another update to fix it. this has happened to me on numerous occasions, where i've had a completely useless app for a week or more because some lazy ass developer can't be bothered to test their apps. after they fix it, the release notes will say 'fix crash on some devices' or something similar.
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| From | Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> |
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| Date | 2014-01-27 23:31 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <270120142331190628%michelle@michelle.org> |
| In reply to | #55483 |
In article <lc614k$cca$1@dont-email.me>, Alan Ralph <alan.ralph@gmail.com> wrote: > > One thing I like about the iTunes ecosystem is that when you purchase > > something from the iTunes or App store, it propagates to all your > > devices. What I do not like is that when you update an app on one > > device, it does not update on all of them. Updates downloaded to an > > iOS device can be put on the computer only by physically connecting > > them via USB and manually syncing them if you normally sync to the > > cloud. (I'm not sure whether this is true if the WiFi sync is to the > > computer, though.) > > Hi Michelle, > > iTunes *can* sync to devices over WiFi once you tell it to, however I've > found it doesn't always do so, sometimes failing to find either my > iPhone or iPad. Yes, I know; what I'm not sure about is whether that sync will sync app updates. > As a result, I've pretty much given up using iTunes for app updates and > now just let the devices keep themselves up-to-date. The day Apple > introduced that ability into iOS was a good one, as far as I'm > concerned. :) So do I, but I want those updates to be synced to the computer in case I have to restore the iOS device.
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| From | Michael Eyd <news@eyd.de> |
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| Date | 2014-01-27 17:48 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <lc62lf$suj$1@news.sap-ag.de> |
| In reply to | #55482 |
Am 27.01.2014 17:07, schrieb Michelle Steiner: > One thing I like about the iTunes ecosystem is that when you purchase > something from the iTunes or App store, it propagates to all your > devices. And I'm glad that I can control (switch off) this behavior... ;-) > What I do not like is that when you update an app on one > device, it does not update on all of them. It does, in a way. Once you update an app on one device, it will copy this update to the PC/Mac once you sync your iDevice the next time with the PC/Mac. Syncing another iDevice with the same PC/Mac should then get the update to that device just as well - provided both devices and their corresponding iTunes settings allow the synchronisation of apps on this PC/Mac. Perhaps not as easy as you would like to have it, but at least... Btw, since iOS7 one can setup the iDevices as well to download any app updates automatically, without any need for a PC/Mac and user interaction. But I'm sure you know about this... :-) > Updates downloaded to an > iOS device can be put on the computer only by physically connecting > them via USB and manually syncing them if you normally sync to the > cloud. (I'm not sure whether this is true if the WiFi sync is to the > computer, though.) No idea, I don't sync to the cloud... ;-) Best regards, Michael
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-01-27 13:06 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <270120141306090568%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #55484 |
In article <lc62lf$suj$1@news.sap-ag.de>, Michael Eyd <news@eyd.de> wrote: > > Updates downloaded to an > > iOS device can be put on the computer only by physically connecting > > them via USB and manually syncing them if you normally sync to the > > cloud. (I'm not sure whether this is true if the WiFi sync is to the > > computer, though.) > > No idea, I don't sync to the cloud... ;-) wifi sync is not syncing to the cloud. it's the same as wired syncing, just over wifi instead of a cable.
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| From | Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> |
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| Date | 2014-01-27 23:38 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <270120142338467465%michelle@michelle.org> |
| In reply to | #55489 |
In article <270120141306090568%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > wifi sync is not syncing to the cloud. it's the same as wired syncing, > just over wifi instead of a cable. Thank you.
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| From | Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> |
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| Date | 2014-01-27 23:38 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <270120142338205900%michelle@michelle.org> |
| In reply to | #55484 |
In article <lc62lf$suj$1@news.sap-ag.de>, Michael Eyd <news@eyd.de> wrote: > > One thing I like about the iTunes ecosystem is that when you purchase > > something from the iTunes or App store, it propagates to all your > > devices. > > And I'm glad that I can control (switch off) this behavior... ;-) > > > What I do not like is that when you update an app on one > > device, it does not update on all of them. > > It does, in a way. Once you update an app on one device, it will copy > this update to the PC/Mac once you sync your iDevice the next time with > the PC/Mac. Yes, I know; that's what I said. Let me repeat myself since so many people weren't able to understand what I wrote. When I buy an app, on my iPad, iPhone, or Mac, the app is downloaded to all three devices automatically. When an app is updated on one device, it is updated only to that device; it is not automatically updated to the other two devices, and the only way to ensure it is updated to all devices is to sync the iOS devices with the computer. (Yes, auto updates can take place on the iPhone and iPad, but those are separate and distinct actions that can take place at different times. Neither of those updates automatically update their copies on the Mac.) > > Updates downloaded to an iOS device can be put on the computer only > > by physically connecting them via USB and manually syncing them if > > you normally sync to the cloud. (I'm not sure whether this is true > > if the WiFi sync is to the computer, though.) > > No idea, I don't sync to the cloud... ;-) It has nothing to do with the cloud; it's a WiFi sync between the iOS device and the computer on the same network.
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| From | Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> |
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| Date | 2014-01-28 13:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lc8blr$vq3$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #55509 |
Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: > In article <lc62lf$suj$1@news.sap-ag.de>, Michael Eyd <news@eyd.de> > wrote: > >>> One thing I like about the iTunes ecosystem is that when you purchase >>> something from the iTunes or App store, it propagates to all your >>> devices. >> >> And I'm glad that I can control (switch off) this behavior... ;-) >> >>> What I do not like is that when you update an app on one >>> device, it does not update on all of them. >> >> It does, in a way. Once you update an app on one device, it will copy >> this update to the PC/Mac once you sync your iDevice the next time with >> the PC/Mac. > > Yes, I know; that's what I said. > > Let me repeat myself since so many people weren't able to understand > what I wrote. > > When I buy an app, on my iPad, iPhone, or Mac, the app is downloaded to > all three devices automatically. > > When an app is updated on one device, it is updated only to that > device; it is not automatically updated to the other two devices, and > the only way to ensure it is updated to all devices is to sync the iOS > devices with the computer. (Yes, auto updates can take place on the > iPhone and iPad, but those are separate and distinct actions that can > take place at different times. Neither of those updates automatically > update their copies on the Mac.) > >>> Updates downloaded to an iOS device can be put on the computer only >>> by physically connecting them via USB and manually syncing them if >>> you normally sync to the cloud. (I'm not sure whether this is true >>> if the WiFi sync is to the computer, though.) >> >> No idea, I don't sync to the cloud... ;-) > > It has nothing to do with the cloud; it's a WiFi sync between the iOS > device and the computer on the same network. -- Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-01-27 13:06 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <270120141306050350%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #55482 |
In article <270120140907421472%michelle@michelle.org>, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: > One thing I like about the iTunes ecosystem is that when you purchase > something from the iTunes or App store, it propagates to all your > devices. if enabled > What I do not like is that when you update an app on one > device, it does not update on all of them. correct > Updates downloaded to an > iOS device can be put on the computer only by physically connecting > them via USB and manually syncing them if you normally sync to the > cloud. (I'm not sure whether this is true if the WiFi sync is to the > computer, though.) it will work with wifi sync
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| From | Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> |
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| Date | 2014-01-27 22:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lc6nsc$usr$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #55482 |
Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: > One thing I like about the iTunes ecosystem is that when you purchase > something from the iTunes or App store, it propagates to all your > devices. What I do not like is that when you update an app on one > device, it does not update on all of them. Updates downloaded to an > iOS device can be put on the computer only by physically connecting > them via USB and manually syncing them if you normally sync to the > cloud. (I'm not sure whether this is true if the WiFi sync is to the > computer, though.) I don't LIKE depending on the cloud, though 8-) -- Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-01-27 18:33 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <270120141833550521%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #55493 |
In article <lc6nsc$usr$3@dont-email.me>, Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote: > > One thing I like about the iTunes ecosystem is that when you purchase > > something from the iTunes or App store, it propagates to all your > > devices. What I do not like is that when you update an app on one > > device, it does not update on all of them. Updates downloaded to an > > iOS device can be put on the computer only by physically connecting > > them via USB and manually syncing them if you normally sync to the > > cloud. (I'm not sure whether this is true if the WiFi sync is to the > > computer, though.) > > I don't LIKE depending on the cloud, though 8-) you don't have to depend on the cloud. in the unlikely event it isn't available (which happens, but it's very rare), you can sync however you otherwise would have synced, namely a cable. in other words, it's *in addition to* not *instead of*. furthermore, wifi sync is not the cloud. it's all done within your own wifi network. it just replaces the cable (although there are a few tasks that do require a cable, like a firmware restore).
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| From | erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-01-27 19:06 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <drache-059CFD.19060627012014@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #55494 |
In article <270120141833550521%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > furthermore, wifi sync is not the cloud. it's all done within your own > wifi network. it just replaces the cable (although there are a few > tasks that do require a cable, like a firmware restore). That I can live with 8-) -- Erilar, biblioholic medievalist
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| From | Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> |
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| Date | 2014-01-28 13:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lc8bls$vq3$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #55494 |
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article <lc6nsc$usr$3@dont-email.me>, Erilar > <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote: > >>> One thing I like about the iTunes ecosystem is that when you purchase >>> something from the iTunes or App store, it propagates to all your >>> devices. What I do not like is that when you update an app on one >>> device, it does not update on all of them. Updates downloaded to an >>> iOS device can be put on the computer only by physically connecting >>> them via USB and manually syncing them if you normally sync to the >>> cloud. (I'm not sure whether this is true if the WiFi sync is to the >>> computer, though.) >> >> I don't LIKE depending on the cloud, though 8-) > > you don't have to depend on the cloud. > > in the unlikely event it isn't available (which happens, but it's very > rare), you can sync however you otherwise would have synced, namely a > cable. > > in other words, it's *in addition to* not *instead of*. > > furthermore, wifi sync is not the cloud. it's all done within your own > wifi network. it just replaces the cable (although there are a few > tasks that do require a cable, like a firmware restore). Wi-fi is OK 8-). You keep reassuring me about my new commitment. -- Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad
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| From | Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> |
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| Date | 2014-01-27 23:39 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <270120142339289989%michelle@michelle.org> |
| In reply to | #55493 |
In article <lc6nsc$usr$3@dont-email.me>, Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote: > Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: > > One thing I like about the iTunes ecosystem is that when you purchase > > something from the iTunes or App store, it propagates to all your > > devices. What I do not like is that when you update an app on one > > device, it does not update on all of them. Updates downloaded to an > > iOS device can be put on the computer only by physically connecting > > them via USB and manually syncing them if you normally sync to the > > cloud. (I'm not sure whether this is true if the WiFi sync is to the > > computer, though.) > > I don't LIKE depending on the cloud, though 8-) THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CLOUD!!!
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| From | Jeffrey Kaplan <nomail@gordol.org> |
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| Date | 2014-01-30 00:18 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <l56je9dqg9imr6uoep28tqfgmmv919o2c0@gordol.org> |
| In reply to | #55482 |
Previously on comp.mobile.ipad, Michelle Steiner said: > One thing I like about the iTunes ecosystem is that when you purchase > something from the iTunes or App store, it propagates to all your > devices. What I do not like is that when you update an app on one If you have that option enabled on the devices. I do not. The iPad and iPhone are used for different purposes and thus I use different apps on them. > device, it does not update on all of them. Updates downloaded to an > iOS device can be put on the computer only by physically connecting > them via USB and manually syncing them if you normally sync to the Why are you unable to have iTunes on your computer download the updated apps directly? > cloud. (I'm not sure whether this is true if the WiFi sync is to the > computer, though.) WiFi sync is iffy. I'm sitting at my computer, with my router less than two feet away. There are a total of seven network capable hardware items connected, including this computer, the cable modem, a dumb hub, a BD player, a satellite TV tuner/DVR, an iPhone and iPad. It takes nearly two minutes for iTunes to "find" my phone on WiFi, and two to three times longer to sync than via USB. -- Jeffrey Kaplan www.gordol.org Double ROT13 encoded for your protection Guidelines for Legion of Doom Troops: 14. If you're on patrol and your partner mysteriously disappears, call for backup before you go look for him.
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| From | Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> |
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| Date | 2014-01-29 18:04 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <290120141804171751%michelle@michelle.org> |
| In reply to | #55576 |
In article <l56je9dqg9imr6uoep28tqfgmmv919o2c0@gordol.org>, Jeffrey Kaplan <nomail@gordol.org> wrote: > > device, it does not update on all of them. Updates downloaded to an > > iOS device can be put on the computer only by physically connecting > > them via USB and manually syncing them if you normally sync to the > > Why are you unable to have iTunes on your computer download the updated > apps directly? I'm not unable to do that. I just worded it poorly. I rarely check for updates with my computer, though.
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2014-01-30 13:23 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnlekkid.28m0.g.kreme@amelia.local> |
| In reply to | #55582 |
In message <290120141804171751%michelle@michelle.org> Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: > In article <l56je9dqg9imr6uoep28tqfgmmv919o2c0@gordol.org>, Jeffrey > Kaplan <nomail@gordol.org> wrote: >> > device, it does not update on all of them. Updates downloaded to an >> > iOS device can be put on the computer only by physically connecting >> > them via USB and manually syncing them if you normally sync to the >> >> Why are you unable to have iTunes on your computer download the updated >> apps directly? > I'm not unable to do that. I just worded it poorly. I rarely check > for updates with my computer, though. Once a year, whether i need to or not. -- "If 386BSD had been available when I started on Linux, Linux would probably never had happened." Linus Torvalds
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| From | Jeffrey Kaplan <nomail@gordol.org> |
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| Date | 2014-02-02 03:20 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <a8ere9pc0jf5du0gcfunemcbeaq0gh6k62@gordol.org> |
| In reply to | #55582 |
Previously on comp.mobile.ipad, Michelle Steiner said: > In article <l56je9dqg9imr6uoep28tqfgmmv919o2c0@gordol.org>, Jeffrey > Kaplan <nomail@gordol.org> wrote: > > > > device, it does not update on all of them. Updates downloaded to an > > > iOS device can be put on the computer only by physically connecting > > > them via USB and manually syncing them if you normally sync to the > > > > Why are you unable to have iTunes on your computer download the updated > > apps directly? > > I'm not unable to do that. I just worded it poorly. I rarely check > for updates with my computer, though. But when you go to sync the iDevice, you've got iTunes open, and iTunes will automatically search for updates to your apps and flag the library listing that there are updates to download. Apps that you purchased directly from the iDevice will automatically download in iTunes when you next open it. The frequency of use does not matter. When you open the app, it'll happen. -- Jeffrey Kaplan www.gordol.org Double ROT13 encoded for your protection "Sexual prowess and rebellion..." (Lennier, B5 "Eyes")
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| From | Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> |
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| Date | 2014-02-01 22:11 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <010220142211042892%michelle@michelle.org> |
| In reply to | #55754 |
In article <a8ere9pc0jf5du0gcfunemcbeaq0gh6k62@gordol.org>, Jeffrey Kaplan <nomail@gordol.org> wrote: > Previously on comp.mobile.ipad, Michelle Steiner said: > > > In article <l56je9dqg9imr6uoep28tqfgmmv919o2c0@gordol.org>, Jeffrey > > Kaplan <nomail@gordol.org> wrote: > > > > > > device, it does not update on all of them. Updates downloaded to an > > > > iOS device can be put on the computer only by physically connecting > > > > them via USB and manually syncing them if you normally sync to the > > > > > > Why are you unable to have iTunes on your computer download the updated > > > apps directly? > > > > I'm not unable to do that. I just worded it poorly. I rarely check > > for updates with my computer, though. > > But when you go to sync the iDevice, you've got iTunes open, and iTunes > will automatically search for updates to your apps and flag the library > listing that there are updates to download. Apps that you purchased > directly from the iDevice will automatically download in iTunes when > you next open it. > > The frequency of use does not matter. When you open the app, it'll > happen. I'm not talking bout purchased apps; I'm talking about *updated apps*. Purchased apps are automatically downloaded to the computer because iTunes is always running in the background. I rarely sync the device to the computer; the devices automatically sync to iCloud. When I synced to the computer a few days ago, it was the first time in about 2 1/2 months, and there were 184 apps that needed to be synced.
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