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Re: Way Back When

From Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.apps, comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: Way Back When
Date 2018-11-08 10:26 +1300
Organization Aioe.org NNTP Server
Message-ID <prvla4$rs0$1@gioia.aioe.org> (permalink)
References <021120181121292358%star@sky.net> <0001HW.21934D2500E3A13314F3562CF@news.individual.net>

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On 2018-11-07 16:41:09 +0000, Percival John Hackworth said:
> On 06-Nov-2018, John Varela wrote
> (in article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-lpCGWdPLJhdd@localhost>):
>> On Mon, 5 Nov 2018 20:18:36 UTC, Your Name<YourName@YourISP.com>
>> wrote:
>>> On 2018-11-05 19:47:33 +0000, Alan Baker said:
>>>> On 2018-11-05 11:42 AM, Your Name wrote:
>>>>> On 2018-11-05 19:07:41 +0000, John Varela said:
>>>>>> On Mon, 5 Nov 2018 05:13:45 UTC, Your Name<YourName@YourISP.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2018-11-05 03:13:18 +0000, John Varela said:
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 21:41:15 UTC, nospam<nospam@nospam.invalid>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article<51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-6Fd5ZtZ5ez1z@localhost>, John Varela
>>>>>>>>> <newlamps@verizon.net>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Bought a new car recently? Mine came with 780 semi-mouse print pages 
>>>>>>>>>>> spread among 5 volumes.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Good effin' luck trying to find how to turn dozens of electronic 
>>>>>>>>>>> features on, off or calibrate them; when to change the oil; how to 
>>>>>>>>>>> change the clock tor daylight saving; program the radio or link up your 
>>>>>>>>>>> phone, etc., etc....
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Subaru presents one manual for each model. It covers every trim
>>>>>>>>>> line and optional feature. For something as simple as resetting the 
>>>>>>>>>> clock there will be instructions for several different versions, each 
>>>>>>>>>> qualified "(if equipped)". We go off of Daylight Savings Time tomorrow 
>>>>>>>>>> morning, and I am going to have to look it up yet again.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> that's incredibly poorly design.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sure enough, I had to look it up again in the manual. The index has an 
>>>>>>>> entry for "clock" so I went to page 3-35 as instructed. It turns out 
>>>>>>>> that the instructions for this car are described under the 
>>>>>>>> multi-function display, on page 3-49.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ahhh, the joys of technology for the sake of it.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The digital clock on my car is in the middle of the driver's instrument
>>>>>>> cluster (between the speedo and rev counter dials. To change it you
>>>>>>> simply reach through the steering wheel to turn a small knob clockwise 
>>>>>>> or counter-clockwise to adjust it, keep holding it in that direction 
>>>>>>> and the time ticks up / down by 1 minute until you let go. :-) I don't 
>>>>>>> think the car's radio / cassette player (yes a cassette tape system) 
>>>>>>> has a clock - it displays the radio frequency.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm not sure if my mother's much newer car adjusted the time itself or 
>>>>>>> if she had to do it via the touchscreen menu system of her car's
>>>>>>> infotainment screen.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The Subaru is my wife's car and if she had to reset the clock
>>>>>> herself it would never happen. This year I wised up and annotated
>>>>>> the index with the desired page number and also dog-eared that page.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My car is similar to yours, in having a real clock, not one built
>>>>>> into a multi-function display. My clock has an analog dial placed
>>>>>> smack in the middle of the dashboard, with two buttons: one to
>>>>>> advance the hands and one to reverse them.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I dislike analogue clocks, even worse when they're in a car ... you
>>>>> meant to be driving, not spending "10 minutes" trying to figure out
>>>>> where the big hand and little hand are pointing. Digital clocks are
>>>>> much easier and quicker to read. :-)
>>>> 
>>>> Please tell me the smiley means you're kidding.
>>> 
>>> Nope, it's not a winking smiley ... digital clocks *are* quicker and
>>> eaiser to read than analogue clocks. Digital clocks also take up less
>>> space (of course that depends on the design of both types of clock).
>> 
>> I just measured my dashboard clock and it is two inches wide by one
>> inch high.
>> 
>> When I want the time while driving, I don't need much accuracy. An
>> analog clock is, for me, at least as fast to get an approximate
>> reading of the time as a digital clock is.
> 
> That will change. One of the first signs of dementia (senile or AIDS related)
> is the inability to process the three forms of information being presented on
> a clock face.

He obviously already has dementia, or maybe dyslexia, if he actually 
believes an analogue clock is quicker and easier to read than a simple 
line of numbers on a digital clock.  :-\

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    Re: Way Back When "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2018-11-03 21:00 +0000
      Re: Way Back When snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-11-03 21:17 +0000
        Re: Way Back When Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-11-03 15:29 -0700
          Re: Way Back When snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-11-03 22:55 +0000
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                [OT] Re: Way Back When snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-11-05 08:12 +0000
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                Re: [OT] Re: Way Back When snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-11-05 20:46 +0000
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    Re: Way Back When Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> - 2018-11-02 18:35 -0400
      Re: Way Back When "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2018-11-03 21:06 +0000
        Re: Way Back When nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-03 17:41 -0400
          Re: Way Back When "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2018-11-05 03:13 +0000
            Re: Way Back When Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-05 18:13 +1300
              Re: Way Back When "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2018-11-05 19:07 +0000
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                Re: Way Back When Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-11-05 11:47 -0800
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                Re: Way Back When Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-06 15:15 +1300
                Re: Way Back When Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-11-05 21:12 -0800
                Re: Way Back When Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-06 18:13 +1300
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                Re: Way Back When John <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-05 18:47 -0800
                Re: Way Back When Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-11-06 10:16 +0000
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                Re: Way Back When nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-05 15:44 -0400
                Re: Way Back When "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2018-11-06 14:57 +0000
                [OT] Re: Way Back When snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-11-06 15:10 +0000
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                Re: [OT] Re: Way Back When Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-08 18:28 +1300
                Re: [OT] Re: Way Back When nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 00:33 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: Way Back When J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2018-11-08 02:48 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Way Back When Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-08 18:26 +1300
                Re: Way Back When Percival John Hackworth <pjh@nanoworks.com> - 2018-11-07 08:41 -0800
                Re: Way Back When "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2018-11-07 18:38 +0000
                Re: Way Back When Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2018-11-07 15:41 -0800
                Re: Way Back When Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-08 10:26 +1300
                Re: Way Back When snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-11-07 22:10 +0000
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                Re: Way Back When Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2018-11-09 19:13 -0500
                Re: Way Back When nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-05 14:55 -0400
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                Re: Way Back When Percival John Hackworth <pjh@nanoworks.com> - 2018-11-06 07:02 -0800
                Re: Way Back When Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2018-11-06 13:54 -0500
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                Re: Way Back When Elden <usenet@moondog.org> - 2018-11-07 05:34 -0800
                Re: Way Back When "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2018-11-06 15:41 +0000
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      Re: Way Back When Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2018-11-04 17:00 -0500
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