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Re: Manufacturer Refurb Portable HD Reliability

From Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: Manufacturer Refurb Portable HD Reliability
Date 2020-08-25 20:56 +0000
Organization People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates
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On 2020-08-23, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> In message <hqfj8iFtig4U1@mid.individual.net> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> On 2020-08-22, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>> In message <hqcssjFcqheU3@mid.individual.net> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2020-08-22, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>>>> In message <t0_%G.413861$DO2.340698@fx45.iad> Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2020-08-21 16:45, Wade Garrett wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Of note, never buy any hard drive on Amazon. They routinely sell
>>>>> drives they claim are sold by Amazon (they are not) and that they
>>>>> have a manufacturer's warranty (they do not). When the drives fail,
>>>>> and they will, you will find yourself trying to deal with some
>>>>> "company" you've never heard of trying to get a warranty replacement
>>>>> and Amazon will tell you to fuck off.
>>>>>
>>>>> (Company as in some guy selling OEM drives out of his storage
>>>>> locker).
>>>
>>>> I wouldn't go so far as to say "never - just be smart about it.
>>>
>>> There is no way to tell. The last drives I bought (or will ever buy)
>>> from Amazon clearly said they were sold by Amazon and had the
>>> manufacturer's warranty; Not "a warranty" but the manufacturers
>>> warranty/ Both these statements were lies.
>>>
>>>> Luckily, it's really easy to avoid shady resellers on Amazon: just
>>>> make sure the item you want to purchase says "sold and fulfilled by
>>>> Amazon". 
>>>
>>> It did. It was not. As far as I am concerned, what Amazon did was
>>> fraud.
>
>> I've purchased a dozen drives like this without issue in the past year
>> or three.
>
>> Did they accept your return?
>
> No, they did not since the drives failed in the "warranty" period, not
> within their return window.

That's why you check the serial number with the manufacturer before
deciding to keep it and use it. 

I've done this for years: 

1. Order the drive (making sure it is "sold and fulfilled by Amazon").
2. Receive the package.
3. Without cutting the protective antistatic bag around the drive:
3a. Read the serial number through the antistatic bag.
3b. Go to the drive manufacturer's warranty check web page.
3c. Enter the serial number, and verify the drive is legit with full
warranty. 
4. Optionally, check SMART statistics on the drive to make sure it is in
fact brand-new. 

I do all of this within the week of receiving the package. If the drive
isn't legit, I simply return it to Amazon with a note that the drive is
not a new drive or is not covered by the manufacturer warranty. Simple.

> Anyway, I am done with Amazon. I do not deal with companies that lie to
> me and commit fraud.

Certainly both a good principle and your prerogative.

>> If you are buying hard drives without checking to make sure the warranty
>> is legit on the manufacturer's website with the serial number, your
>> problems are self-created as far as I'm concerned.
>
> I will simply buy products from companies that I can trust to not be
> selling my shit. Right now, that means nearly no online vendors qualify.

Yeah, no thanks.

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JR

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Manufacturer Refurb Portable HD Reliability Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> - 2020-08-21 16:45 -0400
  Re: Manufacturer Refurb Portable HD Reliability Percival John Hackworth <pjh@nanoworks.com> - 2020-08-21 16:35 -0700
    Re: Manufacturer Refurb Portable HD Reliability Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> - 2020-08-22 09:40 -0400
  Re: Manufacturer Refurb Portable HD Reliability Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-08-21 20:53 -0400
    Re: Manufacturer Refurb Portable HD Reliability Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-08-22 07:04 +0000
      Re: Manufacturer Refurb Portable HD Reliability Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-08-22 09:45 -0400
      Re: Manufacturer Refurb Portable HD Reliability Percival John Hackworth <pjh@nanoworks.com> - 2020-08-22 07:02 -0700
      Re: Manufacturer Refurb Portable HD Reliability Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2020-08-22 15:45 +0000
        Re: Manufacturer Refurb Portable HD Reliability Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-08-22 16:10 +0000
          Re: Manufacturer Refurb Portable HD Reliability Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2020-08-23 16:19 +0000
            Re: Manufacturer Refurb Portable HD Reliability Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-08-23 22:00 +0000
              Re: Manufacturer Refurb Portable HD Reliability Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2020-08-25 20:56 +0000
        Re: Manufacturer Refurb Portable HD Reliability Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> - 2020-08-22 13:17 -0400
          Re: Manufacturer Refurb Portable HD Reliability Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2020-08-23 16:20 +0000
    Re: Manufacturer Refurb Portable HD Reliability Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2020-08-22 15:36 +0000
      Re: Manufacturer Refurb Portable HD Reliability Paul Goodman <goodmanp@comcast.net> - 2020-08-22 14:10 -0400
  Re: Manufacturer Refurb Portable HD Reliability Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2020-08-22 15:29 +0000
    Re: Manufacturer Refurb Portable HD Reliability Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> - 2020-08-22 13:19 -0400

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