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Re: 64 to 32 bit

From Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: 64 to 32 bit
Date 2018-06-02 15:31 +0000
Organization People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates
Message-ID <fnfrj7F5023U3@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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On 2018-06-01, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> On 2018-06-01 11:50, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>
>> My god, people... Please stop with the FUD. 
>
> This is not "FUD" as you call it.

Yes it is. 

>> optimizations benefit from this memory efficiency. When 32-bit apps are
>> thrown into the mix, performance of the entire system is adversely
>> affected. 
>
> Horseradish. Running one app in 32 bit mode  does not affect the next
> door app that is running in 64 bits.

Of course it does. When the OS loads 32-bit libraries into memory, it
uses more CPU resources as well as using more RAM resources which
degrades performance of the entire system since CPU and RAM are finite
resources.

> Does this mean that more code is loaded into memory (1 copy for 64 bits,
> 1 for 32), yes. But in today's systems, it isn't a big thing.

It affects system performance, whether you want to believe it or not.
Apple says it does. So do software developers. Disagree all you want;
but that's reality.

-- 
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JR

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64 to 32 bit Gerry <address@domain.com> - 2018-05-31 15:12 -0700
  Re: 64 to 32 bit nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-31 18:37 -0400
    Re: 64 to 32 bit gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-05-31 21:27 -0700
    Re: 64 to 32 bit JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-01 01:50 -0400
      Re: 64 to 32 bit nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-01 02:04 -0400
      Re: 64 to 32 bit Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-01 18:20 +1200
  Re: 64 to 32 bit Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-01 13:52 +1200
    Re: 64 to 32 bit JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-05-31 22:41 -0400
      Re: 64 to 32 bit Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-06-01 14:50 +0000
        Re: 64 to 32 bit Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-02 01:22 +0000
      Re: 64 to 32 bit "Snit's dysautonomia http://bit.ly/2Jqpplk" <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 23:28 -0700
    Re: 64 to 32 bit nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-01 01:29 -0400
      Re: 64 to 32 bit JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-01 01:41 -0400
        Re: 64 to 32 bit nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-01 02:04 -0400
    Re: 64 to 32 bit Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2018-06-01 08:36 +0100
      Re: 64 to 32 bit Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2018-06-01 11:10 -0400
        Re: 64 to 32 bit nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-01 11:21 -0400
        Re: 64 to 32 bit JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-01 12:49 -0400
          Re: 64 to 32 bit nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-01 12:51 -0400
      Re: 64 to 32 bit Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-06-01 15:50 +0000
        Re: 64 to 32 bit JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-01 12:54 -0400
          Re: 64 to 32 bit nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-01 13:08 -0400
          Re: 64 to 32 bit Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-02 01:31 +0000
          Re: 64 to 32 bit Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-06-02 15:31 +0000
            Re: 64 to 32 bit JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-02 14:40 -0400
              Re: 64 to 32 bit nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-02 14:42 -0400
              Re: 64 to 32 bit Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2018-06-02 22:36 -0400
              Re: 64 to 32 bit Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-05 09:24 +0000
          Re: 64 to 32 bit Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-06-02 15:39 +0000
            Re: 64 to 32 bit JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-02 14:44 -0400
              Re: 64 to 32 bit nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-02 14:49 -0400
                Re: 64 to 32 bit JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-02 15:00 -0400
                Re: 64 to 32 bit nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-02 15:12 -0400
                Re: 64 to 32 bit Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-06-02 21:44 +0000
                Re: 64 to 32 bit "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2018-06-04 18:41 +0000
                Re: 64 to 32 bit Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-04 12:14 -0700
                Re: 64 to 32 bit Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-06-04 19:21 +0000
                Re: 64 to 32 bit gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-06-04 14:39 -0700
              Re: 64 to 32 bit Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2018-06-02 19:56 +0100
                Re: 64 to 32 bit JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-02 15:04 -0400
                Re: 64 to 32 bit Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2018-06-04 18:54 -0400
              Re: 64 to 32 bit Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-06-02 21:43 +0000
              Re: 64 to 32 bit Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-05 09:29 +0000
        Re: 64 to 32 bit Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2018-06-01 15:09 -0400
          Re: 64 to 32 bit Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-06-02 15:46 +0000
            Re: 64 to 32 bit nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-02 12:00 -0400
              Re: 64 to 32 bit Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-06-02 16:58 +0000
                Re: 64 to 32 bit JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-02 14:50 -0400
                Re: 64 to 32 bit nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-02 14:54 -0400
                Re: 64 to 32 bit JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-02 15:01 -0400
                Re: 64 to 32 bit nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-02 15:12 -0400
                Re: 64 to 32 bit JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-02 17:56 -0400
                Re: 64 to 32 bit nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-02 18:08 -0400
                Re: 64 to 32 bit Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-06-03 03:55 +0000
                Re: 64 to 32 bit "Snit's dysautonomia http://bit.ly/2Jqpplk" <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 07:48 -0700
                Re: 64 to 32 bit "Snit's dysautonomia http://bit.ly/2Jqpplk" <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 11:28 -0700
                Re: 64 to 32 bit Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-06-03 03:54 +0000
                Re: 64 to 32 bit Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-05 09:43 +0000
                Re: 64 to 32 bit Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-06-02 21:37 +0000
                Re: 64 to 32 bit Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-03 12:07 +1200
                Re: 64 to 32 bit Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-05 09:42 +0000
            Re: 64 to 32 bit JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-02 14:47 -0400
              Re: 64 to 32 bit nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-02 14:49 -0400
              Re: 64 to 32 bit Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-06-02 21:40 +0000
              Re: 64 to 32 bit Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-05 09:45 +0000
            Re: 64 to 32 bit Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2018-06-02 22:35 -0400
              Re: 64 to 32 bit Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-03 15:09 +1200
              Re: 64 to 32 bit Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-05 09:47 +0000

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