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Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software?

From Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software?
Date 2015-03-17 19:13 +0000
Organization People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates
Message-ID <cmrcmlFjeu5U3@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
References (4 earlier) <slrnmgg4ga.ucr.g.kreme@kreme.eternal-september.org> <me9ju1$mss$1@dont-email.me> <170320151245434980%nospam@nospam.invalid> <me9p5o$ce2$2@dont-email.me> <170320151405483291%nospam@nospam.invalid>

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On 2015-03-17, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <me9p5o$ce2$2@dont-email.me>, Electric Comet
><electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:
>
>> > ..and have had a substandard user experience with extremely limited
>> > software choices, both in number of options and in
>> > quality/performance.
>> 
>> Be specific, name a few things
>
> photoshop and the rest of the adobe creative suite, lightroom,
> microsoft office, final cut pro, imovie, 1password, itunes, ios device
> support, garmin gps device support, other hardware device support,
> along with zillions of other apps that will never, ever run on linux.
>
> also, driver support for hardware is often a no-go on linux, sometimes
> buggy open source crap which has zero support if anything goes wrong.
>
> linux is great for servers, but for a desktop system it's horrible.

Yes. And it's even a pain in the ass for servers, due to the nature of
open source, where problems often result in cryptic errors written by
teenage open source developers. One example (out of many I have
encountered in my career) is a version of rsync in a production RHEL
installation where the only error generated was literally:

You don't exist, go away!
rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (0 bytes received so far)
[sender]
rsync error: unexplained error (code 255) at io.c(463) [sender=2.6.8]

We encountered this error, of all times, during automated deployment of
code to a production server. *clap* *clap* *clap* Thanks so much! Well
done, sirs! You just gotta love when Linux developers insert witty,
cryptic, unhelpful error messages into their code, offering no
assistance what-so-ever in determining what actually went wrong so you
have to go read source code while you are working on mission-critical
server infrastructure. Really productive use of time there. 

-- 
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JR

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Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-16 15:24 +0000
  Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-16 11:29 -0400
  Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-16 15:39 +0000
    Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-16 15:57 +0000
      Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-16 16:21 +0000
      Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-17 08:23 +1200
        Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-17 12:34 +1300
          Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-17 11:32 +0000
        Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-17 11:05 -0700
      Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-03-16 21:26 +0000
        Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-16 21:46 +0000
          Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-17 11:04 -0700
            Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-17 14:05 -0400
              Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-17 12:04 -0700
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-17 15:07 -0400
            Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-17 11:38 -0700
            Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-17 19:34 +0000
            Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-18 07:48 -0400
      Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-16 18:45 -0400
    Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-16 09:07 -0700
  Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Electric Comte <electrc-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-16 09:00 -0700
    Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-16 16:22 +0000
      Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-16 09:37 -0700
        Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? isw <isw@witzend.com> - 2015-03-16 09:45 -0700
          Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-16 09:55 -0700
            Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-16 14:03 -0400
              Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-17 10:58 -0700
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-17 14:05 -0400
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-17 12:02 -0700
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-17 15:07 -0400
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-03-18 00:55 -0700
        Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-16 16:47 +0000
          Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-17 10:54 -0700
            Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-17 14:05 -0400
              Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-17 12:01 -0700
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-03-18 00:53 -0700
            Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-17 19:26 +0000
            Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-03-18 00:51 -0700
              Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-03-18 11:11 -0700
        Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-03-16 12:06 -0700
          Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-16 19:30 +0000
          Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-17 10:51 -0700
        Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-17 11:36 +0000
          Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-17 16:14 +0000
            Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-17 16:24 +0000
              Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-17 17:41 +0000
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-17 19:01 +0000
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-17 21:52 +0000
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-17 23:06 +0000
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-17 19:14 -0400
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-18 00:06 +0000
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-17 20:17 -0400
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-17 23:16 +0000
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-17 23:47 +0000
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-17 19:51 -0400
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-18 00:01 +0000
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-18 00:05 +0000
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-18 00:04 +0000
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-03-17 22:35 +0000
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-17 23:12 +0000
              Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-03-17 17:52 +0000
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-17 14:05 -0400
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-17 19:31 +0000
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-17 12:07 -0700
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-17 15:08 -0400
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Raymond Wiker <rwiker@gmail.com> - 2015-03-17 21:18 +0100
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-17 16:20 -0400
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Raymond Wiker <rwiker@gmail.com> - 2015-03-17 21:23 +0100
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-17 23:05 +0000
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-18 21:59 -0700
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-19 13:47 +0000
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-17 12:28 -0700
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-18 00:01 +0000
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-18 21:56 -0700
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-19 13:44 +0000
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-18 22:01 -0700
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-19 01:07 -0400
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-19 13:48 +0000
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-18 21:31 -0700
            Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-17 12:45 -0400
              Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-17 17:37 +0000
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-17 18:59 +0000
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-17 21:59 +0000
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-03-17 22:34 +0000
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-17 23:12 +0000
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-17 23:11 +0000
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-18 00:14 +0000
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-18 00:24 +0000
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-03-17 22:33 +0000
              Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-17 10:44 -0700
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-17 14:05 -0400
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-17 11:55 -0700
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-17 15:07 -0400
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-18 21:53 -0700
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-19 01:07 -0400
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-18 22:09 -0700
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-17 19:38 +0000
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-18 21:41 -0700
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-19 13:42 +0000
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-18 00:13 +0000
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-18 21:40 -0700
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-18 22:05 -0700
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-03-19 10:18 +0000
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-17 19:13 +0000
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Raymond Wiker <rwiker@gmail.com> - 2015-03-17 21:14 +0100
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-17 23:04 +0000
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-18 21:33 -0700
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-19 13:41 +0000
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-18 21:20 -0700
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-19 13:37 +0000
            Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-03-17 12:09 -0700
              Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-17 21:42 +0000
            Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-03-17 22:33 +0000
              Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-18 00:25 +0000
              Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-18 07:13 -0400
          Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-17 10:43 -0700
            Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-17 14:05 -0400
              Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-03-17 11:48 -0700
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-17 14:56 -0400
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-18 00:22 +0000
            Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-18 00:20 +0000
        Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-03-18 00:56 -0700
  Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-16 13:55 -0400
    Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-16 17:57 +0000
      Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-16 14:32 -0400
      Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-17 12:34 +1300
  Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-03-16 21:25 +0000
  Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-16 20:29 -0400
    Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-17 11:40 +0000
      Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-17 14:19 +0000
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          Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-17 10:46 -0700
            Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-17 13:53 -0400
              Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-17 19:18 +0000
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-17 15:44 -0400
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-17 19:56 +0000
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                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-17 22:21 -0700
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-18 12:58 +0000
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-18 13:21 -0700
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                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-18 12:53 -0400
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-18 13:26 -0700
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-18 18:30 -0400
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-18 15:55 -0700
                Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-18 23:27 +0000
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          Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-17 19:17 +0000
    Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-03-17 12:10 -0700
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      Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-19 13:51 +0000
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            Re: Why doesn't Apple update the kernel instead of outdating hardware/software? Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-03-19 17:00 -0700
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