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Re: Curious - SMS / Mac

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From Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: Curious - SMS / Mac
Date 11 Jan 2015 18:19:01 GMT
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On 2015-01-11, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2015-01-11, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
>> On 1/11/2015 8:02 AM, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>
>>>>> Rough path:
>>>>> 	My Mac -> Apple (Xing international border; cc: CSIS, NSA)
>>>>> 	Apple -> my iPhone (Xing international border; cc: NSA, CSIS)
>>>>> 	my iPhone (SMS) -> my cellco.
>>>>> 	my cellco -> his cellco.
>>>>> 	his cellco -> his android.
>>>>
>>>> Is it documented that the flow goes through the Apple servers instead of
>>>> the Mac connecting directly to the iPhone ?
>>>>
>>>> I was thinking that the Mac and iPhone would get to know about each
>>>> other's IP address via Bonjour on the LAN and then exchange data directly.
>>>>
>>>> However, if it worked with a phone outside of the LAN, I guess Apple is
>>>> involved in some way.
>>>
>>> It does go through Apple, and it is encrypted.
>>
>> But does Apple have access to them even with warrants?
>
><http://techcrunch.com/2014/02/27/apple-explains-exactly-how-secure-imessage-really-is/>

From the horse's mouth:

<https://www.apple.com/privacy/docs/iOS_Security_Guide_Oct_2014.pdf>

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Curious - SMS / Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-01-11 09:31 -0500
  Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-11 14:51 +0000
    Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-01-11 10:05 -0500
      Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-11 15:32 +0000
        Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-01-11 11:53 -0500
          Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-11 17:01 +0000
            Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-01-11 12:19 -0500
            Re: Curious - SMS / Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-11 14:06 -0500
            Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-11 19:30 +0000
              Re: Curious - SMS / Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-11 14:49 -0500
              Re: Curious - SMS / Mac dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-01-12 10:14 +1300
                Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-11 21:46 +0000
                Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-11 23:14 +0000
                Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-01-11 18:59 -0500
                Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-12 01:17 +0000
          Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-11 19:30 +0000
      Re: Curious - SMS / Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-11 10:51 -0500
        Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-11 16:02 +0000
          Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2015-01-11 10:01 -0800
            Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-11 18:03 +0000
              Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-11 18:19 +0000
              Re: Curious - SMS / Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-11 13:42 -0500
            Re: Curious - SMS / Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-11 13:42 -0500
            Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-11 19:28 +0000
  Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2015-01-11 13:45 -0500
    Re: Curious - SMS / Mac jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-01-12 08:12 +1300
    Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-01-11 18:50 -0500
      Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2015-01-12 10:44 -0500
        Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-01-12 14:15 -0500
  Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-01-13 09:28 +0100
    Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-01-13 08:49 -0500
      Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-01-13 14:15 +0000
      Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-13 16:25 +0000
        Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-01-14 08:05 -0500
          Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-01-14 08:11 -0500
          Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-14 14:52 +0000
            Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-01-14 19:24 -0500
      Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-13 22:13 +0000

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