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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.ipad, comp.sys.mac.system |
| Subject | Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? |
| Date | 2013-10-07 07:57 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <bbe16pF57geU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | (2 earlier) <5250973a$0$49433$c3e8da3$c8b7d2e6@news.astraweb.com> <bbbl3lFke18U1@mid.individual.net> <051020132312255407%invid@loclanet.com> <bbcclsFol1dU1@mid.individual.net> <061020131426537621%invid@loclanet.com> |
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Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> wrote > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >> Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> wrote >>> You say "mature market" as if there is >>> only one market Apple is dealing with. >> No, I was talking about all the markets that Apple is involved in and >> others that are likely markets that Apple might be interested in. > So every market, for every conceivable product, No, just the ones Apple is currently involved in, and those its likely to be interested in. > is now mature. Well, that's good to know. >>> Somewhere in Apple, a team is coming up >>> with new products others haven't tried yet. >> I don't believe that given that they never have done anything like that. > Oh, I'm sure they've done it lots of times. Your surety is completely irrelevant to the real world. > They just never led to anything that could be released :) Easy to claim... >>> Somewhere else in Apple, they're looking at products that have flopped >>> in >>> the past and seeing if they can finally get them good enough to be a >>> success. >> Sure, but there isnt any real evidence that Apple >> has ever come up with a viable product that way. > The iPad is one. No. There were tablets around before Apple produced one. Same with media players, phones, computers, everything they have ever produced. > Tablets were a failure, always had been. Wrong. The Palm alone wasn't. > Now suddenly they're selling. I'd argue the same thing about the original > iPod. More fool you. > MP3 players existed, but nobody cared. Plenty did. And plenty loved the walkman too. >>> To not, for example, release an unready Newton, but instead keep >>> products in development until they actually are consumer ready. >> They didn't even do that with the ipod or iphone or ipad or Mac. > Sure they did. No. What they actually did was look at what was available to the consumers from others and do their own that was a lot better than most of the rest of what was on offer to the consumers. > The old Apple, in the 1990's, would have publicly announced they > were working on an iPhone with a touch screen years before it was > ready, probably rushing something out to prove they were serious. That didn't happen with the ipod. It didn't take that long to produce a viable product that left the rest for dead. It wasn't what happened with the original Mac either. > The modern Apple waited until the thing actually worked > until even letting on they were even moving in that direction. That only happened with the iphone. > (actually, my theory is the iPad was the goal since Jobs returned to > Apple, and as R&D finally solved a problem a secondary use for that > tech was found. We got the iPod, iPhone, maybe even the flat screen > iMac, because the tech was there but the iPad still wasn't ready) Not with the ipod alone which had a very different start, particularly with the very minimal UI ipods like the Shuffle.
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