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Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out?

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In article <bbcclsFol1dU1@mid.individual.net>, Rod Speed
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

> Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> wrote

> > You say "mature market" as if there is
> > only one market Apple is dealing with.
> 
> No, I was talking about all the markets that Apple is involved in and
> others that are likely markets that Apple might be interested in.
> 
So every market, for every conceivable product, is now mature. Well,
that's good to know.
 
> > Somewhere in Apple, a team is coming up
> > with new products others haven't tried yet.
> 
> I don't believe that given that they never have done anything like that.

Oh, I'm sure they've done it lots of times. They just never led to
anything that could be released :)

> 
> > Somewhere else in Apple, they're looking at products that have flopped in
> > the past and seeing if they can finally get them good enough to be a 
> > success.
> 
> Sure, but there isnt any real evidence that Apple
> has ever come up with a viable product that way.
> 
The iPad is one. Tablets were a failure, always had been. Now suddenly
they're selling. I'd argue the same thing about the original iPod. MP3
players existed, but nobody cared.

> > To not, for example, release an unready Newton, but instead keep
> > products in development until they actually are consumer ready.
> 
> They didn't even do that with the ipod or iphone or ipad or Mac. 
> 
Sure they did. The old Apple, in the 1990's, would have publicly
announced they were working on an iPhone with a touch screen years
before it was ready, probably rushing something out to prove they were
serious. The modern Apple waited until the thing actually worked until
even letting on they were even moving in that direction.

(actually, my theory is the iPad was the goal since Jobs returned to
Apple, and as R&D finally solved a problem a secondary use for that
tech was found. We got the iPod, iPhone, maybe even the flat screen
iMac, because the tech was there but the iPad still wasn't ready)

-- 
Chris Mack       "If we show any weakness, the monsters will get cocky!"
'Invid Fan'             - 'Yokai Monsters Along With Ghosts'

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Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-05 09:21 -0700
  Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-05 15:46 -0400
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    Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-06 08:02 +1100
      Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2013-10-05 20:45 -0400
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        Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2013-10-05 23:12 -0400
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