Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Doug Anderson Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Re: Downloding Mavericks Date: 21 Jan 2014 06:44:22 -0800 Organization: Rare Lines: 60 Message-ID: <48ppnl4cop.fsf@ethel.the.log> References: <180120140941223309%YourName@YourISP.com> <170120141839456080%nospam@nospam.invalid> <52d9c4ad$0$9147$c3e8da3$9f400e27@news.astraweb.com> <0t2dnXrC2JFzPkfPnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@giganews.com> <180120140919023485%otto@bogus.address.com> <180120141312462884%nospam@nospam.invalid> <6861ph9mlg.fsf@ethel.the.log> <180120141353470550%nospam@nospam.invalid> <5stxcy5r6h.fsf@ethel.the.log> <200120141628188190%nospam@nospam.invalid> <200120141843304944%nospam@nospam.invalid> <200120142137271136%nospam@nospam.invalid> <210120140446406286%nospam@nospam.invalid> NNTP-Posting-Host: VU74RkCEue2cZAa0sAHoDA.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Emacs Gnus X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: csiph.com comp.sys.mac.system:55160 nospam writes: > In article , Doug Anderson > wrote: > > > > > Though I'd think in that case you wouldn't have quite so much trouble > > > > coming with examples of these bugs. > > > > > > this is a very good summary of the various issues with mavericks mail: > > > > > > > > > the badge count sync is not just with gmail either. it happens on > > > non-gmail mail systems, but probably for different reasons. > > > > OK, now you've mentioned exactly one Mavericks Mail bug, but it is one > > that appears to be unrelated to Gmail. > > one bug? you obviously didn't read the link. As I said, _you_ gave an example of one bug. You also gave a linka to one unhappy camper. This doesnt support your contention that there is some universal Mavericks / gmail problem. > > he lists a slew of problems specifically with gmail, some of which are > rather serious. > > the badge count does happen with more than just gmail, but not > necessarily for the same reason. the bugs he lists with gmail includes > a syncing bug, which would explain the badge count problem. other mail > systems don't have a syncing problem, so the badge count issue there > would likely be due to a *different* reason. > > > In the meantime, several responses from Mavericks Gmail users who > > aren't noticing any problems, while you continue to assert that this > > means we aren't really using it seriously. > > meanwhile, 85% of respondents to a poll say otherwise. No, that is a poll of people who already claimed to have Mavericks / gmail problems.. So what we've learned is that in a volunteer poll of people claiming to have Mavericks / gmail problems, 85% of them claim to have such problems. Why it isnt 100% is a mystery to me. You only find that poll if you are ggogling for Mavericks / gmail problems. > how do you explain such a huge discrepancy? > > and how do you explain apple's hasty patch to fix some (but not all) of > the gmail issues? > > obviously, there's a problem. I'm not asserting that there is no problem. I am asserting that I and many other users experience no problem. You, on the other hand are asserting that Mavericks doesn't work eith gmail, but are unable to provide a single example of a universal (or even majority user) problem, except the badge problem, which is an Apple Mail bug that appears unrelated to Gmail.