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| Started by | Davoud <star@sky.net> |
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| First post | 2018-11-02 11:21 -0400 |
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Way Back When Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2018-11-02 11:21 -0400
Re: Way Back When Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-11-02 09:06 -0700
Re: Way Back When "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2018-11-03 21:00 +0000
Re: Way Back When snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-11-03 21:17 +0000
Re: Way Back When Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-11-03 15:29 -0700
Re: Way Back When snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-11-03 22:55 +0000
Re: Way Back When Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-11-03 18:15 -0700
Re: Way Back When snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-11-04 08:47 +0000
Re: Way Back When J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2018-11-04 12:55 -0500
[OT] Re: Way Back When snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-11-05 08:12 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: Way Back When Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-11-05 01:45 -0800
Re: [OT] Re: Way Back When snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-11-05 13:42 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: Way Back When Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-11-05 07:31 -0800
Re: [OT] Re: Way Back When snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-11-05 17:47 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: Way Back When Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-11-05 12:14 -0800
Re: [OT] Re: Way Back When snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-11-05 20:46 +0000
Re: Way Back When Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-03 09:28 +1300
Re: Way Back When Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> - 2018-11-02 18:35 -0400
Re: Way Back When "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2018-11-03 21:06 +0000
Re: Way Back When nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-03 17:41 -0400
Re: Way Back When "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2018-11-05 03:13 +0000
Re: Way Back When Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-05 18:13 +1300
Re: Way Back When "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2018-11-05 19:07 +0000
Re: Way Back When Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-06 08:42 +1300
Re: Way Back When Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-11-05 11:47 -0800
Re: Way Back When Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-06 09:18 +1300
Re: Way Back When Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-11-05 12:37 -0800
Re: Way Back When Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-06 15:15 +1300
Re: Way Back When Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-11-05 21:12 -0800
Re: Way Back When Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-06 18:13 +1300
Re: Way Back When Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-11-05 21:26 -0800
Re: Way Back When John <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-05 18:47 -0800
Re: Way Back When Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-11-06 10:16 +0000
Re: Way Back When J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2018-11-06 08:12 -0500
Re: Way Back When nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-05 15:44 -0400
Re: Way Back When "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2018-11-06 14:57 +0000
[OT] Re: Way Back When snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-11-06 15:10 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: Way Back When J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2018-11-07 16:27 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Way Back When Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-08 14:15 +1300
Re: [OT] Re: Way Back When Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2018-11-07 18:16 -0800
Re: [OT] Re: Way Back When J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2018-11-07 22:52 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Way Back When Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-11-07 21:22 -0800
Re: [OT] Re: Way Back When Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-08 18:28 +1300
Re: [OT] Re: Way Back When nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 00:33 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Way Back When J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2018-11-08 02:48 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Way Back When Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-08 18:26 +1300
Re: Way Back When Percival John Hackworth <pjh@nanoworks.com> - 2018-11-07 08:41 -0800
Re: Way Back When "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2018-11-07 18:38 +0000
Re: Way Back When Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2018-11-07 15:41 -0800
Re: Way Back When Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-08 10:26 +1300
Re: Way Back When snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-11-07 22:10 +0000
Re: Way Back When Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-11-08 07:06 +0000
Re: Way Back When Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2018-11-09 19:13 -0500
Re: Way Back When nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-05 14:55 -0400
Re: Way Back When Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-11-05 15:48 -0800
Re: Way Back When Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-11-06 10:14 +0000
Re: Way Back When J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2018-11-06 08:22 -0500
Re: Way Back When Percival John Hackworth <pjh@nanoworks.com> - 2018-11-06 07:02 -0800
Re: Way Back When Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2018-11-06 13:54 -0500
Re: Way Back When Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-11-07 09:26 +0000
Re: Way Back When Elden <usenet@moondog.org> - 2018-11-07 05:34 -0800
Re: Way Back When "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2018-11-06 15:41 +0000
Re: Way Back When Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-04 14:28 +1300
Re: Way Back When J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2018-11-04 14:01 -0500
Re: Way Back When Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2018-11-04 17:00 -0500
Re: Way Back When J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2018-11-05 08:44 -0500
Re: Way Back When Supermarine Spitfire <spitfire@spitfireflyinghigh.com> - 2018-11-02 20:32 +0000
Re: Way Back When Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2018-11-04 16:55 -0500
Re: Way Back When J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2018-11-05 09:18 -0500
Re: Way Back When Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-11-05 07:33 -0800
Re: Way Back When "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2018-11-05 19:41 +0000
Re: Way Back When Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2018-11-06 15:44 -0500
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| From | J Burns <burns@nospam.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-07 22:52 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Re: Way Back When |
| Message-ID | <ps0bu6$mra$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #43628 |
On 11/7/18 8:15 PM, Your Name wrote: > I've had a few of the Casio model I like over the years, and it has now > been re-released as part of their "Vintage Collection" (not that it was > ever not in Casio's stock list) and according to a local junk mail > catalogue in the letterbox costs NZ$99. > > A few years ago I bought *three* of them brand new at a discount sale > for justNZ$30. :-) On one the battery has now run out, so is in the > drawer waiting until I have to buy a new battery. The second is now on > my wrist still going strong, and the third, still brand new, is sitting > in the drawer waiting for it's turn when this battery runs out, or > longer if its battery runs out first (I'll just replace the battery of > one of the now-used ones instead. In 2005 I bought a Reebok watch made by Timex. I wore it 10 years. I’ve never had another watch serve so well for so long. Once when I needed a new band, I spotted a watch for 66¢ at a convenience store. It was made for a little girl, but I thought, “Why not!” Attached to my larger watch, the little girl’s band was long enough, and it was of good quality. It looked weird on me because it was vivid pink and pale blue with yellow flowers. I soon loved it for a practical reason. If I took it off to do a job, I had no trouble spotting it, even if I’d dropped it in tall brush. The men in the neighborhood accepted it, but their wives didn’t. One of them told her husband to buy me a black band. To keep the peace, I gave up my girly band. Eventually the o-ring under the cover stretched. It no longer sealed properly, and sweat ruined the watch. I replaced it with a Timex. It looked great on Amazon, but the tall numbers were so thin and close together, and the background so dark, that it was hard to read. When I got ready to press Start to time an event, it would switch back to the time of day. The band was clumsy. It was the worst watch I ever had. For the first time since I was 13, I quit wearing a watch. I tried a Casio W96H. Normally, the month and day require four digits. They’d increased it to eight digits by adding the year. The eight digits were tiny and squeezed together. Who needs to check a watch to know what year it is? For some reason, I couldn’t get the start/stop button for the stopwatch to work reliably. Each failure ruined an attempt to time something. I tried the slightly older Casio W201-AV. It was much better except that the buttons were flush with the sides. From the face, they were invisible, and one had to grope to feel them. To time something, i couldn’t get my finger on the button instantly. Pushing below the level of the case, I didn’t always depress it far enough to start or stop. Who designs these watches! I figured if it didn’t work right, I might as well throw it away. First, I took a chance and put a dab of J B Weld on the button. As I’d feared, it flowed down around the button. However, after I let it set up two hours, I was able to dig out the excess epoxy like modeling clay. Now the watch functions very well. If I want to time something, I can feel the button instantly, and I always push it far enough. Out of curiosity, I bought a Casio F91W-1. F91W’s have been selling well for 27 years and I see why. The display is unfashionably small, but good contrast and well-shaped digits show a that small display can be easy to read. The crystal would be easier to scratch than a modern one, but a smaller crystal is less likely to be scratched. It's about $10 at Amazon.
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| From | Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-07 21:22 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Re: Way Back When |
| Message-ID | <chine.bleu-1927B1.21224007112018@reader.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #43631 |
In article <ps0bu6$mra$1@dont-email.me>, J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote: > the first time since I was 13, I quit wearing a watch. I've never worn a watch. Either I can find a clock or the exact time isn't important. I tell time mostly by the sunlight and shadows. -- :-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted. @ 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\ An almond doesn't lactate. This post / \ Yet another supercilious snowflake for justice. insults Islam. Mohammed
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| From | Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-08 18:28 +1300 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Re: Way Back When |
| Message-ID | <ps0hi5$5jn$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #43632 |
On 2018-11-08 05:22:49 +0000, Siri Cruise said: > In article <ps0bu6$mra$1@dont-email.me>, J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote: >> >> the first time since I was 13, I quit wearing a watch. > > I've never worn a watch. Either I can find a clock or the exact time isn't > important. I tell time mostly by the sunlight and shadows. I wouldn't worry about the "exact time" ... extremely few watches and clocks of any type are ever "exact" anyway. :-) My watch was about three minutes fast, but I reset it when silly Daylight Savings changed recently, so it's closer to being correct now.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-08 00:33 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Re: Way Back When |
| Message-ID | <081120180033284413%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #43634 |
In article <ps0hi5$5jn$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote: > I wouldn't worry about the "exact time" ... extremely few watches and > clocks of any type are ever "exact" anyway. :-) every apple watch is *exact*.
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| From | J Burns <burns@nospam.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-08 02:48 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Re: Way Back When |
| Message-ID | <ps0pns$n78$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #43632 |
On 11/8/18 12:22 AM, Siri Cruise wrote: > In article <ps0bu6$mra$1@dont-email.me>, J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote: > >> the first time since I was 13, I quit wearing a watch. > > I've never worn a watch. Either I can find a clock or the exact time isn't > important. I tell time mostly by the sunlight and shadows. > Without a watch, how did you know who was at fault when you were late for school? I used to be late every day for a week, but I had the satisfaction of knowing I was right and their clock was half a minute ahead. I'd continue to be late until they corrected their clock. Once I rode my motorcycle 48 hours east from Red Lodge in a blizzard. The third morning, I woke up in Iowa, but I couldn't remember where Iowa was. The sun came out, and I used my bubble octant to get my longitude. I found that I was south of Minnesota, and I knew where that was. I couldn't have done it without my $6 Timex. Well, all right, I didn't have my bubble octant with me, but I had my Timex, and if I'd had my octant, I would have known where Iowa was.
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| From | Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-08 18:26 +1300 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Re: Way Back When |
| Message-ID | <ps0hde$5f2$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #43631 |
On 2018-11-08 03:52:37 +0000, J Burns said: > On 11/7/18 8:15 PM, Your Name wrote: >> I've had a few of the Casio model I like over the years, and it has now >> been re-released as part of their "Vintage Collection" (not that it was >> ever not in Casio's stock list) and according to a local junk mail >> catalogue in the letterbox costs NZ$99. >> >> A few years ago I bought *three* of them brand new at a discount sale >> for justNZ$30. :-) On one the battery has now run out, so is in the >> drawer waiting until I have to buy a new battery. The second is now on >> my wrist still going strong, and the third, still brand new, is sitting >> in the drawer waiting for it's turn when this battery runs out, or >> longer if its battery runs out first (I'll just replace the battery of >> one of the now-used ones instead. > > In 2005 I bought a Reebok watch made by Timex. I wore it 10 years. I've > never had another watch serve so well for so long. Once when I needed a > new band, I spotted a watch for 66¢ at a convenience store. It was made > for a little girl, but I thought, "Why not!" > > Attached to my larger watch, the little girl's band was long enough, > and it was of good quality. It looked weird on me because it was vivid > pink and pale blue with yellow flowers. I soon loved it for a practical > reason. If I took it off to do a job, I had no trouble spotting it, > even if I'd dropped it in tall brush. The men in the neighborhood > accepted it, but their wives didn't. One of them told her husband to > buy me a black band. To keep the peace, I gave up my girly band. > > Eventually the o-ring under the cover stretched. It no longer sealed > properly, and sweat ruined the watch. I replaced it with a Timex. It > looked great on Amazon, but the tall numbers were so thin and close > together, and the background so dark, that it was hard to read. When I > got ready to press Start to time an event, it would switch back to the > time of day. The band was clumsy. It was the worst watch I ever had. > For the first time since I was 13, I quit wearing a watch. > > I tried a Casio W96H. Normally, the month and day require four digits. > They'd increased it to eight digits by adding the year. The eight > digits were tiny and squeezed together. Who needs to check a watch to > know what year it is? For some reason, I couldn't get the start/stop > button for the stopwatch to work reliably. Each failure ruined an > attempt to time something. > > I tried the slightly older Casio W201-AV. It was much better except > that the buttons were flush with the sides. From the face, they were > invisible, and one had to grope to feel them. To time something, i > couldn't get my finger on the button instantly. Pushing below the level > of the case, I didn't always depress it far enough to start or stop. > Who designs these watches! > > I figured if it didn't work right, I might as well throw it away. > First, I took a chance and put a dab of J B Weld on the button. As I'd > feared, it flowed down around the button. However, after I let it set > up two hours, I was able to dig out the excess epoxy like modeling > clay. Now the watch functions very well. If I want to time something, I > can feel the button instantly, and I always push it far enough. > > Out of curiosity, I bought a Casio F91W-1. F91W's have been selling > well for 27 years and I see why. The display is unfashionably small, > but good contrast and well-shaped digits show a that small display can > be easy to read. The crystal would be easier to scratch than a modern > one, but a smaller crystal is less likely to be scratched. It's about > $10 at Amazon. Mine is basically the same as the F91-W, but I've always hated those rubbery-plastic straps, so buy the "silver" watches with metal bands (the watch itself is only painted plastic, so the connection points for the band do /eventually/ break). My current watch is A158-W, but there's been a few similar models in Casio's lineup with various model numbers over the years. The only problem with these three new ones is that the light is very dim compared to the previous one I had (which I think was the "ElectroLuminesence" version), but I rarely need the light, so isn't a big issue, especially at that NZ$10 each price.
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| From | Percival John Hackworth <pjh@nanoworks.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-07 08:41 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <0001HW.21934D2500E3A13314F3562CF@news.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #43611 |
On 06-Nov-2018, John Varela wrote (in article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-lpCGWdPLJhdd@localhost>): > On Mon, 5 Nov 2018 20:18:36 UTC, Your Name<YourName@YourISP.com> > wrote: > > > On 2018-11-05 19:47:33 +0000, Alan Baker said: > > > On 2018-11-05 11:42 AM, Your Name wrote: > > > > On 2018-11-05 19:07:41 +0000, John Varela said: > > > > > On Mon, 5 Nov 2018 05:13:45 UTC, Your Name<YourName@YourISP.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > On 2018-11-05 03:13:18 +0000, John Varela said: > > > > > > > On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 21:41:15 UTC, nospam<nospam@nospam.invalid> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > In article<51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-6Fd5ZtZ5ez1z@localhost>, John Varela > > > > > > > > <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bought a new car recently? Mine came with 780 semi-mouse print pages > > > > > > > > > > spread among 5 volumes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good effin' luck trying to find how to turn dozens of electronic > > > > > > > > > > features on, off or calibrate them; when to change the oil; how to > > > > > > > > > > change the clock tor daylight saving; program the radio or link up > > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > phone, etc., etc.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subaru presents one manual for each model. It covers every trim > > > > > > > > > line and optional feature. For something as simple as resetting the > > > > > > > > > clock there will be instructions for several different versions, > > > > > > > > > each qualified "(if equipped)". We go off of Daylight Savings Time > > > > > > > > > tomorrow morning, and I am going to have to look it up yet again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's incredibly poorly design. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sure enough, I had to look it up again in the manual. The index has > > > > > > > an entry for "clock" so I went to page 3-35 as instructed. It turns > > > > > > > out that the instructions for this car are described under the > > > > > > > multi-function display, on page 3-49. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ahhh, the joys of technology for the sake of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > The digital clock on my car is in the middle of the driver's instrument > > > > > > cluster (between the speedo and rev counter dials. To change it you > > > > > > simply reach through the steering wheel to turn a small knob clockwise > > > > > > or counter-clockwise to adjust it, keep holding it in that direction > > > > > > and the time ticks up / down by 1 minute until you let go. :-) I > > > > > > don't think the car's radio / cassette player (yes a cassette tape > > > > > > system) has a clock - it displays the radio frequency. > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure if my mother's much newer car adjusted the time itself or > > > > > > if she had to do it via the touchscreen menu system of her car's > > > > > > infotainment screen. > > > > > > > > > > The Subaru is my wife's car and if she had to reset the clock > > > > > herself it would never happen. This year I wised up and annotated > > > > > the index with the desired page number and also dog-eared that page. > > > > > > > > > > My car is similar to yours, in having a real clock, not one built > > > > > into a multi-function display. My clock has an analog dial placed > > > > > smack in the middle of the dashboard, with two buttons: one to > > > > > advance the hands and one to reverse them. > > > > > > > > I dislike analogue clocks, even worse when they're in a car ... you > > > > meant to be driving, not spending "10 minutes" trying to figure out > > > > where the big hand and little hand are pointing. Digital clocks are > > > > much easier and quicker to read. :-) > > > > > > Please tell me the smiley means you're kidding. > > > > Nope, it's not a winking smiley ... digital clocks *are* quicker and > > eaiser to read than analogue clocks. Digital clocks also take up less > > space (of course that depends on the design of both types of clock). > > I just measured my dashboard clock and it is two inches wide by one > inch high. > > When I want the time while driving, I don't need much accuracy. An > analog clock is, for me, at least as fast to get an approximate > reading of the time as a digital clock is. That will change. One of the first signs of dementia (senile or AIDS related) is the inability to process the three forms of information being presented on a clock face. -- DeeDee, don't press that button! DeeDee! NO! Dee...
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| From | "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> |
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| Date | 2018-11-07 18:38 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-fFw803id7Xk5@localhost> |
| In reply to | #43621 |
On Wed, 7 Nov 2018 16:41:09 UTC, Percival John Hackworth <pjh@nanoworks.com> wrote: > On 06-Nov-2018, John Varela wrote > (in article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-lpCGWdPLJhdd@localhost>): > > > On Mon, 5 Nov 2018 20:18:36 UTC, Your Name<YourName@YourISP.com> > > wrote: > > > > > On 2018-11-05 19:47:33 +0000, Alan Baker said: > > > > On 2018-11-05 11:42 AM, Your Name wrote: > > > > > On 2018-11-05 19:07:41 +0000, John Varela said: > > > > > > On Mon, 5 Nov 2018 05:13:45 UTC, Your Name<YourName@YourISP.com> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > On 2018-11-05 03:13:18 +0000, John Varela said: > > > > > > > > On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 21:41:15 UTC, nospam<nospam@nospam.invalid> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > In article<51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-6Fd5ZtZ5ez1z@localhost>, John Varela > > > > > > > > > <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bought a new car recently? Mine came with 780 semi-mouse print pages > > > > > > > > > > > spread among 5 volumes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good effin' luck trying to find how to turn dozens of electronic > > > > > > > > > > > features on, off or calibrate them; when to change the oil; how to > > > > > > > > > > > change the clock tor daylight saving; program the radio or link up > > > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > phone, etc., etc.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subaru presents one manual for each model. It covers every trim > > > > > > > > > > line and optional feature. For something as simple as resetting the > > > > > > > > > > clock there will be instructions for several different versions, > > > > > > > > > > each qualified "(if equipped)". We go off of Daylight Savings Time > > > > > > > > > > tomorrow morning, and I am going to have to look it up yet again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's incredibly poorly design. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sure enough, I had to look it up again in the manual. The index has > > > > > > > > an entry for "clock" so I went to page 3-35 as instructed. It turns > > > > > > > > out that the instructions for this car are described under the > > > > > > > > multi-function display, on page 3-49. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ahhh, the joys of technology for the sake of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The digital clock on my car is in the middle of the driver's instrument > > > > > > > cluster (between the speedo and rev counter dials. To change it you > > > > > > > simply reach through the steering wheel to turn a small knob clockwise > > > > > > > or counter-clockwise to adjust it, keep holding it in that direction > > > > > > > and the time ticks up / down by 1 minute until you let go. :-) I > > > > > > > don't think the car's radio / cassette player (yes a cassette tape > > > > > > > system) has a clock - it displays the radio frequency. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure if my mother's much newer car adjusted the time itself or > > > > > > > if she had to do it via the touchscreen menu system of her car's > > > > > > > infotainment screen. > > > > > > > > > > > > The Subaru is my wife's car and if she had to reset the clock > > > > > > herself it would never happen. This year I wised up and annotated > > > > > > the index with the desired page number and also dog-eared that page. > > > > > > > > > > > > My car is similar to yours, in having a real clock, not one built > > > > > > into a multi-function display. My clock has an analog dial placed > > > > > > smack in the middle of the dashboard, with two buttons: one to > > > > > > advance the hands and one to reverse them. > > > > > > > > > > I dislike analogue clocks, even worse when they're in a car ... you > > > > > meant to be driving, not spending "10 minutes" trying to figure out > > > > > where the big hand and little hand are pointing. Digital clocks are > > > > > much easier and quicker to read. :-) > > > > > > > > Please tell me the smiley means you're kidding. > > > > > > Nope, it's not a winking smiley ... digital clocks *are* quicker and > > > eaiser to read than analogue clocks. Digital clocks also take up less > > > space (of course that depends on the design of both types of clock). > > > > I just measured my dashboard clock and it is two inches wide by one > > inch high. > > > > When I want the time while driving, I don't need much accuracy. An > > analog clock is, for me, at least as fast to get an approximate > > reading of the time as a digital clock is. > > That will change. One of the first signs of dementia (senile or AIDS related) > is the inability to process the three forms of information being presented on > a clock face. And all this time I thought the first sign was not remembering why I came into this room. -- John Varela
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| From | Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-07 15:41 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <0001HW.2193AF9D017CEA74700004AAB2CF@news.giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #43623 |
On Nov 7, 2018, John Varela wrote (in article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-fFw803id7Xk5@localhost>): > On Wed, 7 Nov 2018 16:41:09 UTC, Percival John Hackworth > <pjh@nanoworks.com> wrote: > > > On 06-Nov-2018, John Varela wrote > > (in article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-lpCGWdPLJhdd@localhost>): > > > > > On Mon, 5 Nov 2018 20:18:36 UTC, Your Name<YourName@YourISP.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > On 2018-11-05 19:47:33 +0000, Alan Baker said: > > > > > On 2018-11-05 11:42 AM, Your Name wrote: > > > > > > On 2018-11-05 19:07:41 +0000, John Varela said: > > > > > > > On Mon, 5 Nov 2018 05:13:45 UTC, Your Name<YourName@YourISP.com> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On 2018-11-05 03:13:18 +0000, John Varela said: > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 21:41:15 UTC, nospam<nospam@nospam.invalid> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > In article<51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-6Fd5ZtZ5ez1z@localhost>, John Varela > > > > > > > > > > <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bought a new car recently? Mine came with 780 semi-mouse print > > > > > > > > > > > > pages > > > > > > > > > > > > spread among 5 volumes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good effin' luck trying to find how to turn dozens of electronic > > > > > > > > > > > > features on, off or calibrate them; when to change the oil; how to > > > > > > > > > > > > change the clock tor daylight saving; program the radio or link up > > > > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > phone, etc., etc.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subaru presents one manual for each model. It covers every trim > > > > > > > > > > > line and optional feature. For something as simple as resetting the > > > > > > > > > > > clock there will be instructions for several different versions, > > > > > > > > > > > each qualified "(if equipped)". We go off of Daylight Savings Time > > > > > > > > > > > tomorrow morning, and I am going to have to look it up yet again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's incredibly poorly design. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sure enough, I had to look it up again in the manual. The index has > > > > > > > > > an entry for "clock" so I went to page 3-35 as instructed. It turns > > > > > > > > > out that the instructions for this car are described under the > > > > > > > > > multi-function display, on page 3-49. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ahhh, the joys of technology for the sake of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The digital clock on my car is in the middle of the driver's > > > > > > > > instrument > > > > > > > > cluster (between the speedo and rev counter dials. To change it you > > > > > > > > simply reach through the steering wheel to turn a small knob clockwise > > > > > > > > or counter-clockwise to adjust it, keep holding it in that direction > > > > > > > > and the time ticks up / down by 1 minute until you let go. :-) I > > > > > > > > don't think the car's radio / cassette player (yes a cassette tape > > > > > > > > system) has a clock - it displays the radio frequency. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure if my mother's much newer car adjusted the time itself or > > > > > > > > if she had to do it via the touchscreen menu system of her car's > > > > > > > > infotainment screen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Subaru is my wife's car and if she had to reset the clock > > > > > > > herself it would never happen. This year I wised up and annotated > > > > > > > the index with the desired page number and also dog-eared that page. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My car is similar to yours, in having a real clock, not one built > > > > > > > into a multi-function display. My clock has an analog dial placed > > > > > > > smack in the middle of the dashboard, with two buttons: one to > > > > > > > advance the hands and one to reverse them. > > > > > > > > > > > > I dislike analogue clocks, even worse when they're in a car ... you > > > > > > meant to be driving, not spending "10 minutes" trying to figure out > > > > > > where the big hand and little hand are pointing. Digital clocks are > > > > > > much easier and quicker to read. :-) > > > > > > > > > > Please tell me the smiley means you're kidding. > > > > > > > > Nope, it's not a winking smiley ... digital clocks *are* quicker and > > > > eaiser to read than analogue clocks. Digital clocks also take up less > > > > space (of course that depends on the design of both types of clock). > > > > > > I just measured my dashboard clock and it is two inches wide by one > > > inch high. > > > > > > When I want the time while driving, I don't need much accuracy. An > > > analog clock is, for me, at least as fast to get an approximate > > > reading of the time as a digital clock is. > > > > That will change. One of the first signs of dementia (senile or AIDS > > related) is the inability to process the three forms of information being presented > > on a clock face. > > And all this time I thought the first sign was not remembering why I > came into this room. What is a room, and who are you? BTW; Who am I, or was that where am I? -- Regards, Savageduck
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| From | Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-08 10:26 +1300 |
| Message-ID | <prvla4$rs0$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #43621 |
On 2018-11-07 16:41:09 +0000, Percival John Hackworth said: > On 06-Nov-2018, John Varela wrote > (in article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-lpCGWdPLJhdd@localhost>): >> On Mon, 5 Nov 2018 20:18:36 UTC, Your Name<YourName@YourISP.com> >> wrote: >>> On 2018-11-05 19:47:33 +0000, Alan Baker said: >>>> On 2018-11-05 11:42 AM, Your Name wrote: >>>>> On 2018-11-05 19:07:41 +0000, John Varela said: >>>>>> On Mon, 5 Nov 2018 05:13:45 UTC, Your Name<YourName@YourISP.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> On 2018-11-05 03:13:18 +0000, John Varela said: >>>>>>>> On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 21:41:15 UTC, nospam<nospam@nospam.invalid> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> In article<51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-6Fd5ZtZ5ez1z@localhost>, John Varela >>>>>>>>> <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Bought a new car recently? Mine came with 780 semi-mouse print pages >>>>>>>>>>> spread among 5 volumes. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Good effin' luck trying to find how to turn dozens of electronic >>>>>>>>>>> features on, off or calibrate them; when to change the oil; how to >>>>>>>>>>> change the clock tor daylight saving; program the radio or link up your >>>>>>>>>>> phone, etc., etc.... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Subaru presents one manual for each model. It covers every trim >>>>>>>>>> line and optional feature. For something as simple as resetting the >>>>>>>>>> clock there will be instructions for several different versions, each >>>>>>>>>> qualified "(if equipped)". We go off of Daylight Savings Time tomorrow >>>>>>>>>> morning, and I am going to have to look it up yet again. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> that's incredibly poorly design. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sure enough, I had to look it up again in the manual. The index has an >>>>>>>> entry for "clock" so I went to page 3-35 as instructed. It turns out >>>>>>>> that the instructions for this car are described under the >>>>>>>> multi-function display, on page 3-49. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ahhh, the joys of technology for the sake of it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The digital clock on my car is in the middle of the driver's instrument >>>>>>> cluster (between the speedo and rev counter dials. To change it you >>>>>>> simply reach through the steering wheel to turn a small knob clockwise >>>>>>> or counter-clockwise to adjust it, keep holding it in that direction >>>>>>> and the time ticks up / down by 1 minute until you let go. :-) I don't >>>>>>> think the car's radio / cassette player (yes a cassette tape system) >>>>>>> has a clock - it displays the radio frequency. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm not sure if my mother's much newer car adjusted the time itself or >>>>>>> if she had to do it via the touchscreen menu system of her car's >>>>>>> infotainment screen. >>>>>> >>>>>> The Subaru is my wife's car and if she had to reset the clock >>>>>> herself it would never happen. This year I wised up and annotated >>>>>> the index with the desired page number and also dog-eared that page. >>>>>> >>>>>> My car is similar to yours, in having a real clock, not one built >>>>>> into a multi-function display. My clock has an analog dial placed >>>>>> smack in the middle of the dashboard, with two buttons: one to >>>>>> advance the hands and one to reverse them. >>>>> >>>>> I dislike analogue clocks, even worse when they're in a car ... you >>>>> meant to be driving, not spending "10 minutes" trying to figure out >>>>> where the big hand and little hand are pointing. Digital clocks are >>>>> much easier and quicker to read. :-) >>>> >>>> Please tell me the smiley means you're kidding. >>> >>> Nope, it's not a winking smiley ... digital clocks *are* quicker and >>> eaiser to read than analogue clocks. Digital clocks also take up less >>> space (of course that depends on the design of both types of clock). >> >> I just measured my dashboard clock and it is two inches wide by one >> inch high. >> >> When I want the time while driving, I don't need much accuracy. An >> analog clock is, for me, at least as fast to get an approximate >> reading of the time as a digital clock is. > > That will change. One of the first signs of dementia (senile or AIDS related) > is the inability to process the three forms of information being presented on > a clock face. He obviously already has dementia, or maybe dyslexia, if he actually believes an analogue clock is quicker and easier to read than a simple line of numbers on a digital clock. :-\
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| From | snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) |
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| Date | 2018-11-07 22:10 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <1nxx1l9.8wcpewisg32lN%snipeco.2@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #43624 |
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote: > He obviously already has dementia, or maybe dyslexia, if he actually > believes an analogue clock is quicker and easier to read than a simple > line of numbers on a digital clock. :-\ Young whippersnapper! -- ^Ï^ My pet rock Gordon just is.
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2018-11-08 07:06 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnpu7o32.olq.g.kreme@jaka.local> |
| In reply to | #43621 |
In message <0001HW.21934D2500E3A13314F3562CF@news.individual.net> Percival John Hackworth <pjh@nanoworks.com> wrote: > On 06-Nov-2018, John Varela wrote > (in article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-lpCGWdPLJhdd@localhost>): >> On Mon, 5 Nov 2018 20:18:36 UTC, Your Name<YourName@YourISP.com> >> wrote: >> >> > On 2018-11-05 19:47:33 +0000, Alan Baker said: >> > > On 2018-11-05 11:42 AM, Your Name wrote: >> > > > On 2018-11-05 19:07:41 +0000, John Varela said: >> > > > > On Mon, 5 Nov 2018 05:13:45 UTC, Your Name<YourName@YourISP.com> >> > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > On 2018-11-05 03:13:18 +0000, John Varela said: >> > > > > > > On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 21:41:15 UTC, nospam<nospam@nospam.invalid> >> > > > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > > In article<51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-6Fd5ZtZ5ez1z@localhost>, John Varela >> > > > > > > > <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote: >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Bought a new car recently? Mine came with 780 semi-mouse print pages >> > > > > > > > > > spread among 5 volumes. >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Good effin' luck trying to find how to turn dozens of electronic >> > > > > > > > > > features on, off or calibrate them; when to change the oil; how to >> > > > > > > > > > change the clock tor daylight saving; program the radio or link up >> > > > > > > > > > your >> > > > > > > > > > phone, etc., etc.... >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Subaru presents one manual for each model. It covers every trim >> > > > > > > > > line and optional feature. For something as simple as resetting the >> > > > > > > > > clock there will be instructions for several different versions, >> > > > > > > > > each qualified "(if equipped)". We go off of Daylight Savings Time >> > > > > > > > > tomorrow morning, and I am going to have to look it up yet again. >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > that's incredibly poorly design. >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Sure enough, I had to look it up again in the manual. The index has >> > > > > > > an entry for "clock" so I went to page 3-35 as instructed. It turns >> > > > > > > out that the instructions for this car are described under the >> > > > > > > multi-function display, on page 3-49. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Ahhh, the joys of technology for the sake of it. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > The digital clock on my car is in the middle of the driver's instrument >> > > > > > cluster (between the speedo and rev counter dials. To change it you >> > > > > > simply reach through the steering wheel to turn a small knob clockwise >> > > > > > or counter-clockwise to adjust it, keep holding it in that direction >> > > > > > and the time ticks up / down by 1 minute until you let go. :-) I >> > > > > > don't think the car's radio / cassette player (yes a cassette tape >> > > > > > system) has a clock - it displays the radio frequency. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > I'm not sure if my mother's much newer car adjusted the time itself or >> > > > > > if she had to do it via the touchscreen menu system of her car's >> > > > > > infotainment screen. >> > > > > >> > > > > The Subaru is my wife's car and if she had to reset the clock >> > > > > herself it would never happen. This year I wised up and annotated >> > > > > the index with the desired page number and also dog-eared that page. >> > > > > >> > > > > My car is similar to yours, in having a real clock, not one built >> > > > > into a multi-function display. My clock has an analog dial placed >> > > > > smack in the middle of the dashboard, with two buttons: one to >> > > > > advance the hands and one to reverse them. >> > > > >> > > > I dislike analogue clocks, even worse when they're in a car ... you >> > > > meant to be driving, not spending "10 minutes" trying to figure out >> > > > where the big hand and little hand are pointing. Digital clocks are >> > > > much easier and quicker to read. :-) >> > > >> > > Please tell me the smiley means you're kidding. >> > >> > Nope, it's not a winking smiley ... digital clocks *are* quicker and >> > eaiser to read than analogue clocks. Digital clocks also take up less >> > space (of course that depends on the design of both types of clock). >> >> I just measured my dashboard clock and it is two inches wide by one >> inch high. >> >> When I want the time while driving, I don't need much accuracy. An >> analog clock is, for me, at least as fast to get an approximate >> reading of the time as a digital clock is. > That will change. One of the first signs of dementia (senile or AIDS related) > is the inability to process the three forms of information being presented on > a clock face. It MIGHT change. Not everyone get senile. -- Nothing gold can stay -- Robert Frost Stay gold -- Johnny Cade
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| From | Davoud <star@sky.net> |
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| Date | 2018-11-09 19:13 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <091120181913586344%star@sky.net> |
| In reply to | #43621 |
Percival John Hackworth: > That will change. One of the first signs of dementia (senile or AIDS related)... That's ugly talk. -- I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that you will say in your entire life. usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-05 14:55 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <051120181455325409%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #43592 |
In article <prq6fk$1vng$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote: > > My car is similar to yours, in having a real clock, not one built > > into a multi-function display. My clock has an analog dial placed > > smack in the middle of the dashboard, with two buttons: one to > > advance the hands and one to reverse them. > > I dislike analogue clocks, even worse when they're in a car ... you > meant to be driving, not spending "10 minutes" trying to figure out > where the big hand and little hand are pointing. Digital clocks are > much easier and quicker to read. :-) if it takes you 10 minutes to read any type of clock, you should not be driving a vehicle on any type of road, public or private.
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| From | Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> |
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| Date | 2018-11-05 15:48 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <051120181548482682%leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> |
| In reply to | #43590 |
In article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-u7sHhJvBhewG@localhost>, John Varela <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote: > My car is similar to yours, in having a real clock, not one built > into a multi-function display. My clock has an analog dial placed > smack in the middle of the dashboard, with two buttons: one to > advance the hands and one to reverse them. The 2010 basic Subaru Forester has the plus/minus pushbutton setup with a digital clock in the middle of the dash. It's a no brainer. God knows what wonders a new Subaru has. leo
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2018-11-06 10:14 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnpu2qbi.3b8.g.kreme@Snow.local> |
| In reply to | #43600 |
In message <051120181548482682%leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > In article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-u7sHhJvBhewG@localhost>, John Varela > <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote: >> My car is similar to yours, in having a real clock, not one built >> into a multi-function display. My clock has an analog dial placed >> smack in the middle of the dashboard, with two buttons: one to >> advance the hands and one to reverse them. > The 2010 basic Subaru Forester has the plus/minus pushbutton setup with > a digital clock in the middle of the dash. It's a no brainer. God knows > what wonders a new Subaru has. My after-market JVC supposedly sets the clock via FM radio. As far as I know, this never happens. This past spring I left that clock alone for over a month and it never corrected itself. I wonder if I have to LISTEN to FM radio? Doesn't seem likely. As long as my computers and iPhone have the right time, I simply don't care about other clocks. I have a battery operated analog clock on the wall that I simply leave on DST year-round as it's not worth changing it twice a year. -- Reality is not a matter of opinion.
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| From | J Burns <burns@nospam.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-06 08:22 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <prs4hs$hb3$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #43606 |
On 11/6/18 5:14 AM, Lewis wrote: > In message <051120181548482682%leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> In article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-u7sHhJvBhewG@localhost>, John Varela >> <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote: > >>> My car is similar to yours, in having a real clock, not one built >>> into a multi-function display. My clock has an analog dial placed >>> smack in the middle of the dashboard, with two buttons: one to >>> advance the hands and one to reverse them. > >> The 2010 basic Subaru Forester has the plus/minus pushbutton setup with >> a digital clock in the middle of the dash. It's a no brainer. God knows >> what wonders a new Subaru has. > > My after-market JVC supposedly sets the clock via FM radio. As far as I > know, this never happens. This past spring I left that clock alone for > over a month and it never corrected itself. > > I wonder if I have to LISTEN to FM radio? Doesn't seem likely. > > As long as my computers and iPhone have the right time, I simply don't > care about other clocks. I have a battery operated analog clock on the > wall that I simply leave on DST year-round as it's not worth changing it > twice a year. > The digital clock in my car tells me if I remembered to clean the battery posts, and how long ago I did it. A few days ago, they cut down a tree across the street. Each time they dropped a limb on a power line, the digital clock on my stove let me know.
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| From | Percival John Hackworth <pjh@nanoworks.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-06 07:02 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <0001HW.2191E46C008F16971591162CF@news.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #43606 |
On 06-Nov-2018, Lewis wrote (in article <slrnpu2qbi.3b8.g.kreme@Snow.local>): > In message<051120181548482682%leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> Leonard Blaisdell > <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > In article<51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-u7sHhJvBhewG@localhost>, John Varela > > <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote: > > > > My car is similar to yours, in having a real clock, not one built > > > into a multi-function display. My clock has an analog dial placed > > > smack in the middle of the dashboard, with two buttons: one to > > > advance the hands and one to reverse them. > > > The 2010 basic Subaru Forester has the plus/minus pushbutton setup with > > a digital clock in the middle of the dash. It's a no brainer. God knows > > what wonders a new Subaru has. > > My after-market JVC supposedly sets the clock via FM radio. As far as I > know, this never happens. This past spring I left that clock alone for > over a month and it never corrected itself. > > I wonder if I have to LISTEN to FM radio? Doesn't seem likely. > > As long as my computers and iPhone have the right time, I simply don't > care about other clocks. I have a battery operated analog clock on the > wall that I simply leave on DST year-round as it's not worth changing it > twice a year. I've never heard of a piece of technology that uses FM signals to sync to NIST clocks. I do have two "Atomic Clocks" that synch to NIST via a radio. It may be what you're talking about, but when someone says "FM radio" I think commercial band FM, not what's in my clocks or my phone. Since there are now travel clocks the size of half a pack of cigarettes that can synch to NIST time signals, it's possible your JVC does. -- DeeDee, don't press that button! DeeDee! NO! Dee...
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| From | Davoud <star@sky.net> |
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| Date | 2018-11-06 13:54 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <061120181354177041%star@sky.net> |
| In reply to | #43612 |
Percival John Hackworth: > I've never heard of a piece of technology that uses FM signals to sync to > NIST clocks... Sure a commercial FM stereo signal can carry NIST date and time data among the various other things it carries on sidebands. -- I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that you will say in your entire life. usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2018-11-07 09:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnpu5bue.1tqq.g.kreme@Snow.local> |
| In reply to | #43612 |
In message <0001HW.2191E46C008F16971591162CF@news.individual.net> Percival John Hackworth <pjh@nanoworks.com> wrote: > On 06-Nov-2018, Lewis wrote > (in article <slrnpu2qbi.3b8.g.kreme@Snow.local>): >> In message<051120181548482682%leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> Leonard Blaisdell >> <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> > In article<51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-u7sHhJvBhewG@localhost>, John Varela >> > <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote: >> >> > > My car is similar to yours, in having a real clock, not one built >> > > into a multi-function display. My clock has an analog dial placed >> > > smack in the middle of the dashboard, with two buttons: one to >> > > advance the hands and one to reverse them. >> >> > The 2010 basic Subaru Forester has the plus/minus pushbutton setup with >> > a digital clock in the middle of the dash. It's a no brainer. God knows >> > what wonders a new Subaru has. >> >> My after-market JVC supposedly sets the clock via FM radio. As far as I >> know, this never happens. This past spring I left that clock alone for >> over a month and it never corrected itself. >> >> I wonder if I have to LISTEN to FM radio? Doesn't seem likely. >> >> As long as my computers and iPhone have the right time, I simply don't >> care about other clocks. I have a battery operated analog clock on the >> wall that I simply leave on DST year-round as it's not worth changing it >> twice a year. > I've never heard of a piece of technology that uses FM signals to sync to > NIST clocks. I do have two "Atomic Clocks" that synch to NIST via a radio. It > may be what you're talking about, but when someone says "FM radio" I think > commercial band FM, not what's in my clocks or my phone. JVC is the brand of the in-car after-market "radio" which I never use as a radio, but almost entirely use as a bluetooth interface from my phone to the car's speakers. The manual states "The clock time is automatically set using the Clock Time (CT) data in FM Radio Broadcast Data System signal" The manual makes no other mention of this feature. I found this: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Data_System> But as I said, it does not appear to actually work. -- Mickey and Mallory know the difference between right and wrong; the just don't give a damn.
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